Xbox One

[jmood88]

Re: Xbox One

Currently planning on anywhere from $40-$45 per title.

Let me preface this....

It all depends on what kind of work arounds / software exploitation is found before the system in place goes live.

Is this your speculation or something that has been brought up by someone at Microsoft?

[mgoblue]

Re: Xbox One

Currently planning on anywhere from $40-$45 per title.

Let me preface this....

It all depends on what kind of work arounds / software exploitation is found before the system in place goes live.

Interesting...is this valid, or opinion?

Crazy as it sounds, but I'd be much more likely to buy something at launch for 40 vs 60...probably not just me either.

[Crimsontide27]

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Is this your speculation or something that has been brought up by someone at Microsoft?

Its the number brought up in internal meetings and focus groups. As always, things can chance in a moments notice depending on what work arounds are found under the current system. Some things that may be clear as day to be able to see now, may go overlooked in the future and vice versa.

[aholbert32]

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Man that is some b.s. right there. So now I can't take my copy of Madden over to my friend's house and play without forcing him to install and pay a fee to play the game? That's lame.

Add in the fact that this will cripple the used game market has me as a consumer very backed into a corner, and I don't like it.

Can someone also explain the EA-Microsoft deal? Does this mean no EA games on the PS4?

Ea games will be on the ps4. Some DLC will be Xbox exclusive.

[DJ]

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It appears to be either timed exclusives or true exclusives for some modes and add-on DLC. In other words, a glorified pre-order bonus.

All the EA Sports games will be on PS4.

That's what I figured, thanks!

[cubsfan203]

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From the pictures it looks like you might not have to open/close a disc trey, which would be nice.

[Crimsontide27]

Re: Xbox One

Interesting...is this valid, or opinion?

Crazy as it sounds, but I'd be much more likely to buy something at launch for 40 vs 60...probably not just me either.

Oh its certainly valid, contracts are already being written up with it now...its just like with all new plans, sometimes you overlook very small issues.

The idea is to destroy the secondary market due to the publishers / dev studios getting a grand total of 0% from their work. The actual money the publishers and devs get...depending on contracts of course...is quite a bit less than the $60 you buy it for in the stores.

By creating this outlet for used games...to be sold at $40-$45, thats 100% profit that the industry never saw before. Of course you have to account for ideas of 1 person buying a game and just passing it around to all his friends etc....renting from gamefly etc... but at the end of the day, selling an online code at $40-$45 each means its pure profit to those that never saw it before, and encourages more people to buy due to a reduction in price.

[jmood88]

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Oh its certainly valid, contracts are already being written up with it now...its just like with all new plans, sometimes you overlook very small issues.

The idea is to destroy the secondary market due to the publishers / dev studios getting a grand total of 0% from their work. The actual money the publishers and devs get...depending on contracts of course...is quite a bit less than the $60 you buy it for in the stores.

By creating this outlet for used games...to be sold at $40-$45, thats 100% profit that the industry never saw before. Of course you have to account for ideas of 1 person buying a game and just passing it around to all his friends etc....renting from gamefly etc... but at the end of the day, selling an online code at $40-$45 each means its pure profit to those that never saw it before, and encourages more people to buy due to a reduction in price.

Where are you getting the information from? Do you work for Microsoft or a publisher?

[mgoblue]

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Oh its certainly valid, contracts are already being written up with it now...its just like with all new plans, sometimes you overlook very small issues.

The idea is to destroy the secondary market due to the publishers / dev studios getting a grand total of 0% from their work. The actual money the publishers and devs get...depending on contracts of course...is quite a bit less than the $60 you buy it for in the stores.

By creating this outlet for used games...to be sold at $40-$45, thats 100% profit that the industry never saw before. Of course you have to account for ideas of 1 person buying a game and just passing it around to all his friends etc....renting from gamefly etc... but at the end of the day, selling an online code at $40-$45 each means its pure profit to those that never saw it before, and encourages more people to buy due to a reduction in price.

I'd be on board with that. Plus it enables sales like you see on Steam as well. I never buy a game at 60 anymore, but 40 isn't terrible.

I can see why devs/pubs want to actually see money for used games. As long as it brings down prices for new games a bit I'd be ok. If it doesn't then I'll be more likely to skip because it's not worth it.

[NikeBlitz]

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From the pictures it looks like you might not have to open/close a disc trey, which would be nice.

Can't lie, looks sick, designed for my living room ...

I hope it lights up when on, always nice when it's dark ...

[Tha_Kid]

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Blu-ray is slot load

Apparently the Xbox One dynamically scales its power consumption based off of what you are doing. There are power switches on the silicon switching cores on and off as needed. So even though it die is larger its power consumption and acoustics are still good.

Intrigued by the idea of the Kinect reading your HR for fitness purposes. Highly skeptical.

[ffaacc03]

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Oh its certainly valid, contracts are already being written up with it now...its just like with all new plans, sometimes you overlook very small issues.

The idea is to destroy the secondary market due to the publishers / dev studios getting a grand total of 0% from their work. The actual money the publishers and devs get...depending on contracts of course...is quite a bit less than the $60 you buy it for in the stores.

By creating this outlet for used games...to be sold at $40-$45, thats 100% profit that the industry never saw before. Of course you have to account for ideas of 1 person buying a game and just passing it around to all his friends etc....renting from gamefly etc... but at the end of the day, selling an online code at $40-$45 each means its pure profit to those that never saw it before, and encourages more people to buy due to a reduction in price.

So, let me see if I get this straight ... beyond whatever is paid for buying an used game, one has to also pay a feed that (allegedly due to focal groups and with still some room for variance) range around the US$40 for it to be played ? also, is it for offline or online or whatever ? does this feed englobes the price of the game plus the right to be played, again offline, online, both ? ...

I rarely bought used games but cant but feel sympathy with the ones that do, it definitively kills such market.

Edit: wait, now am confused, is the US$40+ range the price for new games as there wont be quite a market for used ones ? ... is it the price for cloud like games, I mean, for downloadable games (without disc) ? what are you all speculating about ?


P.S:
- Am in DR and english is not my native language, so please forgive my confussion.
- One other question comes to my mind in after the presentation, given the multiple non gaming features present on XBOX ONE, could this drive its price well over the more niche/specialized PS4 gaming console ?

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Sorry if already posted Battlefield 4

http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/battlefield-4-revealed-for-xbox-one-ps4

[23]

Re: Xbox One

I'd be on board with that. Plus it enables sales like you see on Steam as well. I never buy a game at 60 anymore, but 40 isn't terrible.

I can see why devs/pubs want to actually see money for used games. As long as it brings down prices for new games a bit I'd be ok. If it doesn't then I'll be more likely to skip because it's not worth it.

Is this before or after you buy the used game?

[mgoblue]

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Is this before or after you buy the used game?

I don't know how it'll work exactly....I'm just guessing that the used game market will cease to be worthwhile (why buy used when it doesn't save you as much?)