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  • redsox4evur
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2013
    • 18169

    #21046
    Re: Xbox One



    Dev kits have been leaked.


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    • zasbury25
      The Magic
      • Jul 2002
      • 1204

      #21047
      Re: Xbox One

      Originally posted by redsox4evur
      https://twitter.com/wario64/status/852190972985229312

      Dev kits have been leaked.


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      Here's the article the pics were taken from:

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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #21048
        Re: Xbox One

        Yeah, GAF was going nuts over that this morning. Trying to marginalize the power of Scorpio on older titles by comparing it to Pro's boost mode as much as they can.

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        • mgoblue
          Go Wings!
          • Jul 2002
          • 25477

          #21049
          Re: Xbox One

          Originally posted by mestevo
          Yeah, GAF was going nuts over that this morning. Trying to marginalize the power of Scorpio on older titles by comparing it to Pro's boost mode as much as they can.
          Wow...you can't compare the power difference, and if you're really marginalizing it you're just a fanboy not being honest.
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          • Flawless
            Bang-bang! Down-down!
            • Mar 2004
            • 16780

            #21050
            Re: Xbox One

            GAF is honestly a cesspool these days in regards to discussion of the various platforms; lots of thinly veiled trolling and baiting

            Also, Scorpio just seems more thought out and that's rustling jimmies of console warriors, but that's the benefit you get from coming out a year later.


            Gamasutra - Q&A: With Scorpio rising, Phil Spencer looks to the future of Xbox

            So, starting with this idea that there are games that I just think are seminal games that people should be able to play, and not getting those locked to a specific generation of the hardware, is a goal of ours. It's a difficult goal, but it's a goal. And it's a goal that you see play out on PC, where I can go back and play Doom, I can go back and play Quake. I can go do those things.

            So then when we started thinking about our hardware generations, and I talked about this a little bit at one of our showcase events last year, where I talked about hardware -- and I'm thinking as much as I'm saying -- I was thinking about console generations being able to take on some of the advantages that PCs have. Without becoming PCs themselves.
            The requirements themselves don't change, other than there's a new spec and we're saying hey, you've got to support the vertical nature of Xbox One, all the way through Scorpio. When we designed the Scorpio spec, we specifically said games running at 1080p 30 on an Xbox One -- what do we need to put in the box for that thing to run at 4K 30

            And that was our design goal, from the beginning. To say: same framerate, increased resolution. Let's make sure that we can go hit that, as a minmum bar.

            Now, software's complex and different things can happen, but one of the things that kept us from shipping in 2016 was we didn't think we could make that promise to developers in 2016. That the game that you're running at framerate and resolution on an Xbox One, that you'd be able to take to the same framerate and increased resolution on Scorpio. We didn't think we could get there last year, with the silicon that was in the market.
            What changed?

            It's a combination of price and capability from our hardware partner, that we worked with as we described a certain spec that we wanted to hit.
            ...

            And frankly we had to make that bet two, two and a half years ago, right. You're kind of throwing a dart a long way out, because the timelines in hardware are kind of like that. In the case of this, our hardware partner is the same [as Sony] -- we're both AMD partners. So we don't know what each other is doing, but we definitely know the roadmap, because we're working with the same partner. And we chose to pick something that said, if you're runnning -- 1080p 30 on an Xbox One, what does it mean to run that at 4K 30 on Scorpio. And make sure we could do that. And we're seeing results that make us feel really good about the choices we've made.

            And some developers will come back and say, maybe I don't want a 4K native frame buffer. And we know some developers that are targeting other platforms are doing checkerboarding and other things. And we said okay, we want to make it easier for the developer to do what's natural for them. So we want to give them the tools to target their rendering techniques, that they want to use.

            I believe, regardless of the technique you use, you are going to end up with a better performing game on [Scorpio], just because of the pure specs and hardware capability of the box. And we're starting to get questions like, if I plug my Scorpio into my 1K TV, because that's what I have right now, will I see something that's better than on the Xbox One? And we wanted to go tackle that scenario as well, so if developers wanted to make use of it, they could.
            It's easier to stand on stage with a 6 teraflop t-shirt, and people kind of focus on one thing, but the platform is obviously much more complex than a single number. I think it's fair to say we've been, um, surprised by the performance gains that Scorpio is giving us. Beyond our expectation when we designed the hardware.
            ...

            And I think that when teams want to show the absolute best version of their game, assuming marketing deals and other things don't keep them from doing that, when they show a console version I think Scorpio is going to be the version that looks better than any other version.
            So we will support VR on Scorpio. We said that onstage. We will support VR on Scorpio, we're going to do that, I think it's important, I think there's some great immersive VR experiences.

            But I still feel like the motion of the creative community is more vibrant on PC. And that's the place where we're going to see a lot of those ideas. So our approach is going to be to try and embrace both of those thigns, as opposed to creating a vertical in the VR space to say okay this thing is completely disconnected from the other things. Because I think the Windows space is the place where most of the developer engagement is happening.
            ...

            In terms of hardware, we will talk more about it. There is a plan. I'll say that. This is not a we don't know what we're doing; it's more that we aren't saying yet. I think it's an immersive experience. I do not like that people are having to say, which of these VR verticals do I go pick right now, as a developer? Because I don't think any of them are really big enough yet to support a single experience. So you can see what we've done on console where we've said hey, go unlock your console and become a developer and go build a console game. You don't need to sign any kind of exclusivity deal with us in order to go unlock our console and go party on it. And build games.

            So we're going to...my approach is to try and take a more open and inclusive approach to VR.
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            • mestevo
              Gooney Goo Goo
              • Apr 2010
              • 19556

              #21051
              Re: Xbox One

              Wow. 14 day return window on digital purchases. Surely there's an 'hours played' clause like Steam, which is already abused.

              Edit: it's nearly identical to Steam refunds.

              Please note the below conditions for requesting a self-service refund:
              • Games and apps are eligible for self-service refunds within 14 days of purchase if you have less than 2 hours of play time across all accounts.
              • DLC, season passes, and add-ons are not eligible for self-service refunds.
              • The game or app must be downloaded and launched before requesting a self-service refund.
              • You must wait for at least 1 day after the game or app's release before requesting a self-service refund.
              • Certain Windows 10 apps may not be eligible for self-service refunds.
              • Microsoft reserves the right to block access for users who abuse self-service refunds.



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              Last edited by mestevo; 04-12-2017, 03:45 PM.

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              • mgoblue
                Go Wings!
                • Jul 2002
                • 25477

                #21052
                Re: Xbox One

                Originally posted by Flawless
                GAF is honestly a cesspool these days in regards to discussion of the various platforms; lots of thinly veiled trolling and baiting

                Also, Scorpio just seems more thought out and that's rustling jimmies of console warriors, but that's the benefit you get from coming out a year later.


                Gamasutra - Q&A: With Scorpio rising, Phil Spencer looks to the future of Xbox
                That's awesome. I like the thought of the next gen being a more easy upgrade, and continuing to be able to play past games. I wonder if Sony will adopt the same mentality? In the past they've had a lot more custom hardware, but I think PS4 moved away from that a bit.

                MS is definitely ahead in this respect, so might make it easier for them to migrate to a new gen in the future...nice to see they have a real plan though
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                • mestevo
                  Gooney Goo Goo
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19556

                  #21053
                  Re: Xbox One

                  Originally posted by mgoblue
                  That's awesome. I like the thought of the next gen being a more easy upgrade, and continuing to be able to play past games. I wonder if Sony will adopt the same mentality? In the past they've had a lot more custom hardware, but I think PS4 moved away from that a bit.

                  MS is definitely ahead in this respect, so might make it easier for them to migrate to a new gen in the future...nice to see they have a real plan though
                  If Sony even hinted at a similar philosophy I'd probably still have a PS4.

                  MS is going to spoil us with no software resets and these consumer friendly programs and features. EA Access, Backward Compatibility, Game Pass, Digital Refunds and Play Anywhere. It's a strong value proposition.

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                  • ExtremeGamer
                    Extra Life 11/3/18
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 35299

                    #21054
                    Re: Xbox One

                    Originally posted by mestevo
                    Wow. 14 day return window on digital purchases. Surely there's an 'hours played' clause like Steam, which is already abused.

                    Edit: it's nearly identical to Steam refunds.

                    Please note the below conditions for requesting a self-service refund:
                    • Games and apps are eligible for self-service refunds within 14 days of purchase if you have less than 2 hours of play time across all accounts.
                    • DLC, season passes, and add-ons are not eligible for self-service refunds.
                    • The game or app must be downloaded and launched before requesting a self-service refund.
                    • You must wait for at least 1 day after the game or app's release before requesting a self-service refund.
                    • Certain Windows 10 apps may not be eligible for self-service refunds.
                    • Microsoft reserves the right to block access for users who abuse self-service refunds.



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                    Can't even cancel a preorder on PSN. This is an incredible way to build and move more towards digital for consumers.


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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #21055
                      Re: Xbox One

                      Very disappointed HDR isn't working properly on both the Netflix and Amazon Apps.

                      Shows are way too dark. Hopefully 4k blu ray movies will work properly

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                      • ricky24
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 4888

                        #21056
                        Xbox One

                        Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                        Very disappointed HDR isn't working properly on both the Netflix and Amazon Apps.

                        Shows are way too dark. Hopefully 4k blu ray movies will work properly

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                        Did something change recently? Was watching breaking bad this past weekend and it looked fine. The stuff I checked out on Amazon usually looks good too.

                        4k player is fine for me too. I only own a couple discs though.


                        Edit: actually for Amazon I may have been using my tv app. The 4k Amazon titles don't seem to stream in 4k through the Xbox app.
                        Last edited by ricky24; 04-12-2017, 04:38 PM.

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                        • bigfnjoe96
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 11410

                          #21057
                          Re: Xbox One

                          Originally posted by ricky24
                          Did something change recently? Was watching breaking bad this past weekend and it looked fine. The stuff I checked out on Amazon usually looks good too.

                          4k player is fine for me too. I only own a couple discs though.


                          Edit: actually for Amazon I may have been using my tv app. The 4k Amazon titles don't seem to stream in 4k through the Xbox app.
                          Nah, HDR isn't working right with Netflix App. To see what I'm saying. Watch any HDR title. Then disable HDR and watch that same clip again.

                          You will see a major brightness change. The picture dims tremendously with HDR, compared to in 4k UHD

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                          • ricky24
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 4888

                            #21058
                            Xbox One

                            There should be a brightness change with hdr though. I can fool around with it in a little bit. I just threw on a tales by the light episode and it looks fine to me.


                            Last edited by ricky24; 04-12-2017, 05:54 PM.

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                            • daniel77733
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 3544

                              #21059
                              Re: Xbox One

                              A few thoughts based on several posts above...

                              1) Refunds on a console is amazing. Never thought that would actually happen. With that said, im fully expecting people to abuse the hell out of it.

                              2) NeoGaf is awesome for a lot of info, leaks, insiders, etc. as well as the Sony and Microsoft first party topics. The OT's are usually excellent as well. The downside if that it's basically sonyGAF, nintendoGAF and soulsGAF. Bash these three things and yeah, it usually turns into gamefaqs BUT sometimes, if you just read, you find out so much info and good debates as long as you can ignore the fanboy posts. Like everything though in life, it has it's positives and negatives.

                              3) Scorpio is a next gen leap compared to the base Xbox One/Slim and I would say a half gen leap over the PS4 Pro with only the CPU holding it back. Love the potential of the console.....however.....

                              4) I'm NOT a fan of the continuation of the Xbox One platform simply because if every game is required to run/play on the base Xbox One, it's going to defeat the purpose of having a more powerful console because outside of first party games, it's 50/50 if the developers and publishers take full advantage of it.

                              5) I have always loved it when the next generation of consoles were coming out because you truly see the difference once you get past the two years or so of cross-gen games which is a given. Backwards Compatibility is great but not at the expense of not truly being "next gen".

                              6) I'm not expecting a successor to Scorpio until Fall 2020 at the earliest but I'll be very disappointed if it's still connected to Xbox One and has the same Jaguar CPU base. I don't mind it being connected to Xbox One but it will definitely need a new upgraded and current CPU because after seven years, the current CPU that's being used will be obsolete if it isn't already considering how fast tech advances.

                              7) With all of that said, im buying Scorpio day one and come on, State of Decay 2 and AC Empire.....wow me baby!!!

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                              • Artman22
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 4985

                                #21060
                                Re: Xbox One

                                Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                                Nah, HDR isn't working right with Netflix App. To see what I'm saying. Watch any HDR title. Then disable HDR and watch that same clip again.

                                You will see a major brightness change. The picture dims tremendously with HDR, compared to in 4k UHD

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                                Yea Joe, the app is broken and they still haven't fixed it which is sad. It's been like this since I got the slim.


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