PlayStation 4 Discussion

[mestevo]

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I think it depends on effort and context. I thought they said this was almost automatic or something, as it's directly supported by the hardware and OS. If that's the case this could just be a policy and basically forbidding it to be disabled (some can remote play most/all PS3 games with custom firmware and some other trickery, but some titles don't support remote play, for example).

The only developer toes I think this really steps on is those who might have a title coming out for Vita after this fall and are basically competing against the PS4 library for home use.

Could certainly see a plausible future where the Vita mobile ecosystem is primarily smaller mobile-style apps (Jetpack Joyride, etc) and it is primarily a PS4 accessory. If this becomes the case and is successful, could see a new Vita SKU tailored to that use without other frills like the touch backplate, maybe incorporate dual triggers, etc at a lower price point.

The only REMOTE drawback is if this processing power was ever addressable in the first place by games (probably not) means in a number of years when they're trying to squeeze all they can out of the system this is just a little bit of juice that can't be reclaimed for that effort. But that's unlikely they way it was presented at the reveal I think.

[Blzer]

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Considering they want to push the vita it seems like a good move and good for gamers. My concern would be how does this affect developers? Will this be a easy process for them?

If it puts no added tension between developers and Sony then I see it as a positive. If it pushes developers away from having to mess with the added work then I see it as a potential issue.

Granted I don't understand exactly how the transferring of a game designed for the PS4 ported to the vita works. So I could be way off in how I'm viewing this.

Well, it's not a port at all. Remote play is basically using your PS3/PS4 on your Vita over a network connection. Keeping that in mind, you'll probably be looking at PS4 visuals on your screen, if that makes sense.

The only hassle will be figuring out how R2/L2 and R3/L3 work. Currently, they map these items to the rear touchpad (in the four corners). It's not the best way, but unless they reconfigure the control scheme when you play it on Vita, it might be the only way.

This reason alone is exactly why I might get a PS4 sooner than later. The thought of playing my PS4 away from my bedroom is freakin' awesome, provided that's it's a seamless, hassle-free experience.

[Phobia]

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I think it depends on effort and context. I thought they said this was almost automatic or something, as it's directly supported by the hardware and OS. If that's the case this could just be a policy and basically forbidding it to be disabled (some can remote play most/all PS3 games with custom firmware and some other trickery, but some titles don't support remote play, for example).

The only developer toes I think this really steps on is those who might have a title coming out for Vita after this fall and are basically competing against the PS4 library for home use.

Could certainly see a plausible future where the Vita mobile ecosystem is primarily smaller mobile-style apps (Jetpack Joyride, etc) and it is primarily a PS4 accessory. If this becomes the case and is successful, could see a new Vita SKU tailored to that use without other frills like the touch backplate, maybe incorporate dual triggers, etc at a lower price point.

If it is automatic so to speak in how it is transferred down to the small screen on vita that is understandable. One large res down to a smaller res, I guess what I don't understand is the processing power difference. Now I don't own a vita and really am going to be new to the Sony bandwagon here at end of year. So maybe the vita is streaming directly from the ps4? I'm not sure on this and maybe you guys with more knowledge on this can clear that up. Because if that is the case and the ps4 just send out the game in a lower res for the vita then that is perfectly understandable.

Edit: Ok cool, blzer cleared up my confusion. So the vita basically is streaming the game or whatever you are running from the ps4 correct?

Now help me out here. I thought you could take your vita anywhere and play your games, so if I'm out of state does my ps4 have to be on at my house for my vita to work and play these games?

[mestevo]

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Yeah, and though you'd lose fidelity in the process, the article even mentions that you kind of get an automatic bump in quality by reducing the screen size.

Going to come down to the mechanics of it, would hope think they've made it as simple as how people have explained the Wii U works and for those with a serviceable wifi network it should work pretty well.

If it is automatic so to speak in how it is transferred down to the small screen on vita that is understandable. One large res down to a smaller res, I guess what I don't understand is the processing power difference. Now I don't own a vita and really am going to be new to the Sony bandwagon here at end of year. So maybe the vita is streaming directly from the ps4? I'm not sure on this and maybe you guys with more knowledge on this can clear that up. Because if that is the case and the ps4 just send out the game in a lower res for the vita then that is perfectly understandable.

The PS4 is doing all the work, and basically streaming a video of the game that the vita is sending controller inputs to. This is using the Gaikai technology they acquired when they bought the company... think OnLive. It works pretty well, TERA used to have a Gaikai demo, you could be playing the MMO in just a minute or two without even downloading the client. It's no longer available or I'd link you to it.

[Phobia]

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Cool, I'm on page now with how it works. That is a pretty good thing then with the mandate in my opinion.

[houstonsportsfan]

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does that mean, when i get a PS4 i have to get a Vita too?

[mestevo]

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does that mean, when i get a PS4 i have to get a Vita too?

Yes, though it's always on and watching you while you sleep.

(not really)

If it all works well, it could be a very valuable accessory. If we got a PS4 it'd be a longer term goal to get a Vita too to complete the experience, though maybe not at the current price if it was just for remote playing PS4 games at home.

[houstonsportsfan]

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Yes, though it's always on and watching you while you sleep.

(not really)

If it all works well, it could be a very valuable accessory. If we got a PS4 it'd be a longer term goal to get a Vita too to complete the experience, though maybe not at the current price if it was just for remote playing PS4 games at home.

Oh if i do need to get a Vita then i will have to skip Next-gen consoles.

[23]

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You dont need to get a Vita man.. thats nothing to worry about.

[houstonsportsfan]

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You dont need to get a Vita man.. thats nothing to worry about.

Thanks man, i'm thinking of switching to PS4 after i have been a 360 player these past few years. Mostly for MLB The Show >_>

[Blzer]

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Oh if i do need to get a Vita then i will have to skip Next-gen consoles.

Don't listen to what 23 says...

A Vita may not be required, but you need to get one.

[houstonsportsfan]

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Don't listen to what 23 says...

A Vita may not be required, but you need to get one.

i'll think about it lol, but i do prefer consoles myself

[mestevo]

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i'll think about it lol, but i do prefer consoles myself

All the more reason to get a Vita w/ your PS4... because at some point you've got to go to the bathroom.

[23]

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According to the commercials he can take a walk on the brooklyn bridge instead.

I mean that is every gamers fantasy right there.

[houstonsportsfan]

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All the more reason to get a Vita w/ your PS4... because at some point you've got to go to the bathroom.

LOL true, but like i said ill think about it when the PS4 is launched, pricing is also a concern for me.