Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

[Skyboxer]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

I own all three systems and I've not even turned on my Wii U in two months. I game all the time on PS4, use my Xbox One for everything else. Not saying the Wii U isn't worth it, some of their games like Mario Kart are incredibly fantastic, but overall the Wii U is a great THIRD system to own after you already have the PS4 and Xbox One...or a second system only if you're a huge Nintendo fan and/or have kids..

Yep.. everyone is different. IMO it's a great 2nd system. Then either the PS4 or X1 is the third.
90% (just throwing out that number) of the games can either be played on the PS4 or X1.
Like I said everyones different but as of right now there's no way I drop 300 plus on the X1 for just 1 exclusive out now I'd like to play (Halo MC Collection) since I already have a PS4.

While on the WiiU I have MK, Zelda etc etc..

[daniel77733]

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The resurrection of the industry actually got kickstarted with Doom on the PC and then the first Playstation. The N64 just rode that wave in. To blame Atari on the industry crash is a bit much. That's like blaming SGI on the .Com boom. Basically, Atari was the primary victim/symptom of the crash. Not necessarily the culprit. Sure, it was a big part of it, but so was Nintendo.

Hmmm, the main cause of the industry crash was due to the saturation of the market. Too many consoles all at the same time. Reason why I think that Atari killed the industry back in 1983 was because they were the best and top tier company and console maker at the time and they simply released too many in too short of a time. Nintendo released the NES in 1985 and by 1987, they resurrected the industry. I don't think that Doom or PlayStation had anything to with it simply because if it wasn't for Nintendo with the NES and SNES which in turn led to the SNES CD-Rom attachment that never was which in turn became the original PlayStation. PlayStation was released in September 1995 in NA, a full decade after NES so to say that PlayStation resurrected the industry is false. After all, how could it? It didn't exist until a decade later after Nintendo launched the NES. Nintendo had NOTHING to do with the industry crashing. How could they? They were a trading card company and had nothing to do with home video game consoles. In the end, whether you or anyone in general loves or hates Nintendo, they are due the upmost respect because quite simply, in the end, if they never released the NES back in 1985, we most likely wouldn't be having this discussion as PlayStation and Xbox brands wouldn't exist.

Actually, Sega and Nintendo used the SAME business model. The DIFFERENCE was that Nintendo's financial position (as it is today) was strong enough to withstand the lack of 3rd party support. THAT is what killed Sega. The other difference was that N's stable of first party titles were an industry mainstay. Sega only had Sonic and Sonic had nowhere near the following of Mario.

Nintendo had superior third party support in the NES and SNES eras. It wasn't until the release of Nintendo 64 and SquareSoft going with PlayStation for Final Fantasy VII that third party support started to become less and less for Nintendo consoles. What killed Sega is EXACTLY what killed Atari. Too many console releases and add-ons in a short amount of time. In six years time, Sega released the Genesis, Sega CD, 32X and Saturn. Too many too soon and in regards to the middle two, average at best and im being very generous. Sega has a great catalog of IP's but they simply ruined them or abandoned them. Nintendo's franchises succeed 30 years later because they're still great to excellent to classic games that won't be forgotten.

I'm not either. I'm tired of them. But in terms of volume, that genre pretty much dominates the industry.

Liking them or not isn't the point. They are KEY genres in the industry. But I see you get what I'm saying.

Yeah, sadly, the FPS genre is the genre that's popular now and oversaturates the market. I agree that Nintendo could use FPS and RTS games in general but for me personally, I could care less.

That's more a factor of the nature of the current licensing model, thanks to the ****storm EA started with FIFA and Nascar. It's sad. BTW, the MLB needs to do something about that. That sport is hurting. For as good as The Show is, holding up on only one platform is not good for the bottom line for Sony or the MLB.

Agreed. Lucky for me, im stopped being a sports nut a long time ago.

Yes and no. First, Wii wasn't the first to implement motion controlling. I think there was a VR headset (I THINK made by Sega), that first introduces the concept to the masses. Nintendo used motion later in a Kirby GBC game (I think I still have that cart). And for all of that, the Wii motion controls turned out to be nothing more than a gimmick in the end as only specific niche titles effectively used it. You'd be hard pressed to name one major title not from Nintendo that actually uses it and is KNOWN for it.

It may not have been the Wii but in the end, it was still Nintendo. Is the VR headset be Virtual Boy? I don't remember Sega having a VR headset. I agree that the motion controls were a gimmick but it worked as Nintendo won last generation in terms of console sales. The gamepad for Wii U is also a gimmick and im hoping the next Nintendo console is back to basics. Can't really name a major title that uses the motion controls outside of Nintendo since they don't really have any third party support.

Don't get me wrong. I CERTAINLY support how they think outside of the box on so many levels. And yes, they ARE an industry leader and innovator. I'm just saying that they need to stop using those advancements and gimmicks as an excuse NOT to do the basic stuff. Give us hardware that is up to date. Help the industry create or advance new genres and IPs.

Agreed. I want to see new IP's but even more than that, I want them to bring back all their franchises as that's their strong suit. Going back to the NES days, Nintendo has a lot of IP's that haven't been used in pretty much forever. I would focus on the established franchises while bringing back older IP's that haven't been seen in forever. New IP's would be good too but just like third party companies rarely do them, it's simply because if the new IP fails, it's a lot of money lost and Nintendo isn't the best anymore, but they are still the smartest as their main goal is to remain profitable and while they have had a few bad years, they can absorb it because of the two plus decades of profitable quarters. Sony and especially Microsoft wouldn't be able to withstand that like Nintendo can. I agree with the next console being up to date, Blu-ray, 500GB hard drive, at least equal to the next PlayStation and Xbox consoles in terms of power and whatnot but the main thing is that it needs to be developer friendly and Nintendo has to be third party friendly.

You don't think Nintendo is doing the exact some stuff? How many different versions of Pokemon can a kid buy? To have to buy a new cartridge just to add characters is a crime in my opinion. Nintendo is doing this too. And they are also doing digital distribution as well. As for the rest, I'm not implying that those facets of the industry at the advancements. But online multiplayer, for example, was something Nintendo was greatly opposed to. There was talk that some people in Nintendo wanted to include a modem in the N64, but it was shot down HARD by the powers that be.

Nintendo is doing some of the same stuff but not to the extent of what third party companies and even Sony and Microsoft have done or will do. I'm against gaming going all digital and believe that if it does, the gaming industry will crash again. Nothing wrong with digital but it shouldn't be the main focus nor should the games be the same price as retail discs. Online multi-player is definitely something that Nintendo needs to improve with their next console. Ethernet cable would be a great start.

Because neither MS or Sony has a GAMING lineage. And there's certainly nothing wrong with that. Sony was smart enough to get a great stable of 2nd party devs. MS has software background and knows how to work with partners. The mantra of "Nintendo only cares about games" is, frankly a played out, elitist one that needs to go away. No offense to you. It's just that is just said so much, yet the facts don't back it up if you look at Nintendo's business model. I have seen how Nintendo works over the years. They have some of the most self-serving practices in the industry. There is a reason their 3rd party support is weak. It's not just the terrible hardware. BUT, it's made them a lot of money and there's no reason to change it in their view.

Nintendo definitely has to change their business model in regards to third parties but at the same time, even when third parties develop games for Wii U (perfect example is Ubisoft), they don't sell, plain and simple. I have realized that those who buy a Nintendo console do so for the Nintendo games, nothing else. And it's been that way for the last four consoles. As for the Wii U, I think that it's not what it should have been but at the same time, I look at PS4 and Xbox One and quite honestly, there's nothing groundbreaking or spectacular on either console. The closest would be the "nemesis" system in Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor and that's from a third party publisher. In the end, they do need to adjust some stuff for their next console but their bread and butter is their first party games and I wouldn't stop developing and releasing them until they stop selling which is highly unlikely no matter how many Mario games they release.

Sure it's close. There is a list of VERY obscure titles on your list that no one knows about or cares about. That MAY be an indictment of the general consumer, mind you. But that's just how it is. If people don't know or care about a title, it won't sell no matter how good you may think it is. And Nintendo is running the risk of letting itself fall into a hole where no one will care about their IP outside of the classics. And even longtime, hardcare Nintendo fans are starting to not care or just outgrow them completely.

Most gamers know about Mario 3D World, DKC, 2D Mario, Hyrule Warriors, etc. The Wii U exclusives are better than those on PS4/Xbox One but majority of gamers go with what they had last generation - Microsoft or Sony. Except for hardcore Nintendo fans or those like me who simply love the exclusives that Nintendo offers, gamers stay away from Wii U which is sad because while I don't own it yet, it's not as bad as most make it out to be. There will always be fans that outgrow the Nintendo franchises but it doesn't matter because there will always be kids who want to play games and most parents will always go with the friendly console.

I agree. They are the one that would most likely survive. But we're not at that point and Sony and MS have put themselves in a position where they don't necessarily HAVE to rely on their own resources. If Nintendo would get off it's *** and actually care about 3rd party, Sony and MS would have to sweat quite a bit. But they are not and I don't see them caring to change. And, THAT will be their undoing if this continues. Did you know that Nintendo has to provide incentive for publishers to put games on their systems now? That's ****ing unheard of in the past. But that's the truth. All of them do it, but Nintendo is starting to almost beg. It's funny actually.

Yeah but at the same time, third party games don't sell on Wii U. Again, Ubisoft games is a great example. Some damn good games barely sold. I didn't know that Nintendo has offered incentives for publishers but again, it's mainly because the third party companies and Nintendo themselves know that those games aren't going to sell. I do agree though that Nintendo needs to get third party support for their next console. I don't see it changing for Wii U.

Thank you man. Same to you. It's REALLY refreshing to "argue" with someone respectfully. If I come off disrespectful in any of my replies, please know it was unintentional and point it out.

You're welcome and not at all bud.

Exactly. That's why I said in my original post - if you're a big fan of the Nintendo library, get the WiiU. It's you're not all in on them, avoid it completely. It's a Nintendo box. Nothing more than that. And for MILLIONS of people (and kids), that's more than enough. I'd never deny that.

I'm not "loyal" to any one company. I care about good or better games that I want to play and will eventually do so regardless of the console. In the end, I think that all three have their positives and negatives. Even at 36, I get tired and bored with all the violent games and whatnot. Sometimes, I just want a fun good controlling game to play and could care less about the story or character development or how great the game looks. It may be a negative to some but for me, it fits me just fine. I look at a game like Captain Toad and it simply looks like a cute fun addictive 3D puzzle platformer and after playing AC Rogue, FC4, Mordor and Evil Within the last three months, it's exactly what I need as it will be the perfect change of pace.

[ODogg]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

There was one cause for the console crash : E.T.

[mrclutch]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

I thought this might be a good place to ask this question. Does anyone who has the PS4 Gold headset know if the chat feature will work on the Xbox one? The sound from the game plays fine but I can't get the game chat to work?
Thanks

[sbauer318]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

I thought this might be a good place to ask this question. Does anyone who has the PS4 Gold headset know if the chat feature will work on the Xbox one? The sound from the game plays fine but I can't get the game chat to work?

Thanks

Yeah it does. Just make sure you're using the cable that it came with and that the headset adapter is properly configured in terms of game audio vs chat audio. You might have chat audio at 0%.

[mrclutch]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Thanks for the reply. I'll give it another shot.

[ckarlic]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

For those of you who can't decide which console to get, there is the "PlayBox". Xbox one and PS4 in one

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/14/7545259/playbox-mod-combines-xbox-one-and-playstation-4

I actually emailed the guy who made this and asked about the price to get one made and he told me that the one he did sold for $5000. He said that it took him about a month to make it and it was a lot of work. I think it is pretty cool but wouldn't drop $5000 on it.

[mgoblue]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

For those of you who can't decide which console to get, there is the "PlayBox". Xbox one and PS4 in one

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/14/7545259/playbox-mod-combines-xbox-one-and-playstation-4

I actually emailed the guy who made this and asked about the price to get one made and he told me that the one he did sold for $5000. He said that it took him about a month to make it and it was a lot of work. I think it is pretty cool but wouldn't drop $5000 on it.

lol yeah, i saw that too and wondered how much it cost. It makes sense it's crazy expensive (lots of work), but still...insane. I'd just pick up a PS4 and add it to my entertainment center lol Even if I traveled with consoles a lot I'm not sure i could drop 5k on this.

[ckarlic]

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lol yeah, i saw that too and wondered how much it cost. It makes sense it's crazy expensive (lots of work), but still...insane. I'd just pick up a PS4 and add it to my entertainment center lol Even if I traveled with consoles a lot I'm not sure i could drop 5k on this.

Yeah. Probably the best remote play solution with little to no lag at all in the market at the moment.

[areobee401]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

I thought this might be a good place to ask this question. Does anyone who has the PS4 Gold headset know if the chat feature will work on the Xbox one? The sound from the game plays fine but I can't get the game chat to work?
Thanks

Using my Gold headset for Xbox One never crossed my mind. All I would need is to buy the Xbox One headset adapter, correct?

[mgoblue]

Re: Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Using my Gold headset for Xbox One never crossed my mind. All I would need is to buy the Xbox One headset adapter, correct?

I would think so...I have a PC headset that I plug into the Xbox One headset adapter and it works (had to get a 2 to 1 plug adapter, since it was PC though)....

[bigdoc85]

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Interestingly, if I recall correctly, "PlayBox" was a term used by Sandra Bullock in "The Blind Side" when she would tell SJ to stop playing video games. "SJ - you better not be on that Playbox."

I think Xbox Fitness justifies the purchase of Xbox One alone -- so just cancel your gym membership and buy an Xbox One.

For those of you who can't decide which console to get, there is the "PlayBox". Xbox one and PS4 in one

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/14/7545259/playbox-mod-combines-xbox-one-and-playstation-4

I actually emailed the guy who made this and asked about the price to get one made and he told me that the one he did sold for $5000. He said that it took him about a month to make it and it was a lot of work. I think it is pretty cool but wouldn't drop $5000 on it.

[daniel77733]

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Must admit that PS4/X1 combo laptop is pretty cool but not worth $5000 unless you have the extra money to throw at it. Guy should make an SNES/GEN combo. LOL.

[Artman22]

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Using my Gold headset for Xbox One never crossed my mind. All I would need is to buy the Xbox One headset adapter, correct?

Yea it works. The only thing is that you won't get surround sound you'll get stereo, but it works.


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[areobee401]

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Yea it works. The only thing is that you won't get surround sound you'll get stereo, but it works.


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I might just do that for now until I'm ready to drop a $200 plus on a premium headset for Xbox One. $25 is worth it for a couple months until I figure out which route to go.