Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

[BattleBornLV]

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My apologies. I thought you were coming at me lol..


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Lol nah man. No worries.

[ODogg]

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Same old argument. You do know that COD, assassins creed unity, GTA 5 and Dragon age all have better framerate on the one right? One thing about these next gen consoles for me is the complete overall experience is what's most important not just slightly better graphics that are barely noticeable on some games.




I like both, but prefer the Xbox controller better because of the analog stick placement and feel.



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You entirely missed my point. My point is that it's often for informational purposes on what to buy why people compare games across systems, not because they have any loyalty to any console. I certainly do not myself.

[jatiger13]

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Same old argument. You do know that COD, assassins creed unity, GTA 5 and Dragon age all have better framerate on the One right?

Well, that's not entirely true.
According to Digital Foundry, GTA V has better framerate on the PS4. It also has less drops in framerate compared to the XBOne. Plus the reason for less foliage and other cut features on the XBOne is due to the consoles limitations. For example, if the XBOne had the same amount of foliage as the PS4 version, the framerate would suffer. That is true for all the stuff that didn't show up in the XBOne version. Microsoft should really just stick to software, 'cause the decision with the hardware was quite stupid.
Regarding the FPS:
"On balance, at stress points the PS4 wins out on this front; despite dipping further in our racing sequences, the console has no trouble tackling alpha-heavy shoot-outs. On the other hand, the Xbox One betrays its weakness in both scenarios, albeit to a differing extent for the driving sections."
Reason for dip in framerate during racing on both consoles, is due to asset streaming. The streaming code needs to be cleaned up a bit, on both consoles (imo).
But I'll wait til its out on PC to clean that up myself, unless Rockstar patches that.

About AC Unity on PS4. The issues with that game has nothing to do with the console. The devs just ****ed up. Its a software issue on Ubi's end.

[ricky24]

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I play gta on Xbox one. The lack of foliage is infuriating.


I kid. Honestly if that is what the extra power brings who cares? Doesn't seem like the ram decision was that stupid at all.

[Artman22]

Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

Well, that's not entirely true.
According to Digital Foundry, GTA V has better framerate on the PS4. It also has less drops in framerate compared to the XBOne. Plus the reason for less foliage and other cut features on the XBOne is due to the consoles limitations. For example, if the XBOne had the same amount of foliage as the PS4 version, the framerate would suffer. That is true for all the stuff that didn't show up in the XBOne version. Microsoft should really just stick to software, 'cause the decision with the hardware was quite stupid.
Regarding the FPS:
"On balance, at stress points the PS4 wins out on this front; despite dipping further in our racing sequences, the console has no trouble tackling alpha-heavy shoot-outs. On the other hand, the Xbox One betrays its weakness in both scenarios, albeit to a differing extent for the driving sections."
Reason for dip in framerate during racing on both consoles, is due to asset streaming. The streaming code needs to be cleaned up a bit, on both consoles (imo).
But I'll wait til its out on PC to clean that up myself, unless Rockstar patches that.

About AC Unity on PS4. The issues with that game has nothing to do with the console. The devs just ****ed up. Its a software issue on Ubi's end.

So when the game runs worse on the Xbox it's the consoles limitations, but when it runs worse on the ps4 the dev messed up? Lol... I'll say it again, my main point is that these consoles aren't performing too apart from each other right now and when there's a difference it's marginal.


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[WaddupCouzin]

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I think what is often confused though is people like me who own both systems talking about which system runs a game better and people perceive it as fanboyism when it's not, people that own both systems just want yo get the game that runs best and looks the best.

I was accused of being a kid defending a console of my choice (360) last ten despite owning both systems and I've been accused of being a kid defending their console of choice (PS4) this generation, again despite owning both systems.

In other words, it's not always about defending or attacking a console...it's often times about people comparing and discussing which is superior for the sake of spending their money in the best way possible on a specific game..

I'm not sure someone answered this, but you can set your Xbox1 to download digital games you buy from your smart glass app as well. You have to change the settings on your system for downloads to occur and you're all set.

[WaddupCouzin]

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I think I quoted the wrong post ODogg, but you can set up your Xbox1 to download games when you buy them on the app.

[TheDutchDad]

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So when the game runs worse on the Xbox it's the consoles limitations, but when it runs worse on the ps4 the dev messed up? Lol... I'll say it again, my main point is that these consoles aren't performing too apart from each other right now and when there's a difference it's marginal.


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It is marginal, at best. If you truly care how many bushes your PS4 copy of GTA has over the XB1 then you're not gaming for the right reasons. Graphics are important, but really, not that important. We aren't comparing the difference between the N64 and PS4 here, but if you listened to some conversations here you would think so.

[Altimus]

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It is marginal, at best. If you truly care how many bushes your PS4 copy of GTA has over the XB1 then you're not gaming for the right reasons. Graphics are important, but really, not that important. We aren't comparing the difference between the N64 and PS4 here, but if you listened to some conversations here you would think so.

Well once the PC version of GTA comes out then it will trump all foliage. lol

Spoiler

But seriously, the biggest negative to me on a lot of these games isn't the amount of foliage, AA or lack of, resolution but the drops in frame rate. This to me is the most annoying thing when playing a game and much rather have a smooth experience than having more foilage or a higher res texture here or there which likely I wouldn't even notice.

[Artman22]

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Well once the PC version of GTA comes out then it will trump all foliage. lol

Spoiler

But seriously, the biggest negative to me on a lot of these games isn't the amount of foliage, AA or lack of, resolution but the drops in frame rate. This to me is the most annoying thing when playing a game and much rather have a smooth experience than having more foilage or a higher res texture here or there which likely I wouldn't even notice.

I agree 100% and been saying this all along. I'd take a game at 900p any day if it means a smooth 60fps. I think these devs should focus on better framerates than resolution, but that's me.


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[Hester]

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I agree 100% and been saying this all along. I'd take a game at 900p any day if it means a smooth 60fps. I think these devs should focus on better framerates than resolution, but that's me.

It feels like disingenuous argument, though, because I'm not aware of any multiplatform games on the XB1 whose gameplay suffers versus the PS4. People bringing this up are trying to create a perception of XB1 owners making due with weak versions of many games.


Whether it be Madden, Wolfenstein, or Destiny, XB1 gamers are enjoying the experiences in their games just like PS4 gamers. The difference in specs are not having a real effect on gaming.


The difference between the consoles at launch was price and unfinished features for the XB1. But today, price is no longer a an issue, and Microsoft has finished what needed to be finished, and added a ton of great little features. While I enjoy gaming on the XB1, it really is the little things that make it a true next gen experience instead of just a new box with more power.


I know the PS4 has a ton of momentum, but right now, I'm still surprised every time read that someone finally saved up their money and are buying a PS4. Sometimes that makes perfect sense, if Bloodborne is a must have title. But usually, it feels like gamers that never kept up with what Microsoft has done with the XB1.

[ODogg]

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I think I quoted the wrong post ODogg, but you can set up your Xbox1 to download games when you buy them on the app.

Oddly enough I didn't change a thing but yesterday I bought Diablo on my PC in the Xbox store and went downstairs an hour later and it was installed...so I don't know why it didn't do it when I bought Forza 2 the exact same way....maybe just a glitch I suppose.

[Artman22]

Owners of both PS4 and Xbox One: Pros and Cons

It feels like disingenuous argument, though, because I'm not aware of any multiplatform games on the XB1 whose gameplay suffers versus the PS4. People bringing this up are trying to create a perception of XB1 owners making due with weak versions of many games.


Whether it be Madden, Wolfenstein, or Destiny, XB1 gamers are enjoying the experiences in their games just like PS4 gamers. The difference in specs are not having a real effect on gaming.


The difference between the consoles at launch was price and unfinished features for the XB1. But today, price is no longer a an issue, and Microsoft has finished what needed to be finished, and added a ton of great little features. While I enjoy gaming on the XB1, it really is the little things that make it a true next gen experience instead of just a new box with more power.


I know the PS4 has a ton of momentum, but right now, I'm still surprised every time read tat someone finally saved up their moment and are buying a PS4. Sometimes that makes perfect sense, if Bloodborne is a must have title. But usually, it feels like gamers that never kept up with what Microsoft has done with the XB1.

I agree with you. I own both consoles and I've said it many times before. Most games look identical with a few that look slightly better on the ps4, but for the most part not enough to chose one over the other. Like you said there are some who want to say games run slower and uglier on the one to give the perception that the console is weak which isn't true. To me the ps4 has no worthwhile exclusives at the moment. Like you because the Xbox one console offers more than just gaming that's why I enjoy it more. The ps4 came out the gate with more momentum, but last time I checked the Xbox one sold close to a million consoles in November alone and that's not counting Black Friday sales. They have more and better exclusives so far, a better online network and a feature rich console that keeps adding features every month. I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox caught up by next year to the ps4 in the U.S. In terms of sales or got really close.


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[TheDutchDad]

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It feels like disingenuous argument, though, because I'm not aware of any multiplatform games on the XB1 whose gameplay suffers versus the PS4. People bringing this up are trying to create a perception of XB1 owners making due with weak versions of many games.


Whether it be Madden, Wolfenstein, or Destiny, XB1 gamers are enjoying the experiences in their games just like PS4 gamers. The difference in specs are not having a real effect on gaming.


The difference between the consoles at launch was price and unfinished features for the XB1. But today, price is no longer a an issue, and Microsoft has finished what needed to be finished, and added a ton of great little features. While I enjoy gaming on the XB1, it really is the little things that make it a true next gen experience instead of just a new box with more power.


I know the PS4 has a ton of momentum, but right now, I'm still surprised every time read that someone finally saved up their money and are buying a PS4. Sometimes that makes perfect sense, if Bloodborne is a must have title. But usually, it feels like gamers that never kept up with what Microsoft has done with the XB1.

This reminds me of my cousin a year ago who at launch got an XB1, then a week later returned it for a PS4 because he was having a tough time with all the new features that the XB1 had. He was having issues with Kinect, talking to the Kinect, havning his daughter walk in the room and it switching to her profile, him raising his hands and putting them behind his head while watching a show and the XB changing something on screen as it detects his hand movements, etc. (All of which I have never had problems with, so I didn't get it personally)

He said after he traded in the XB for the PS4 that maybe if Micrsoft patches things he'd look at it again. Well, it's been a year and I can't even keep up with the massive amount of updates that Microsoft has made. It's like a totally different machine now, and to think back what the 360 dashboard and features looked like at launch compared to what the 360 looks like now, as an XB1 owner it makes me excited.

Microsoft keeps momentum I think better than Sony simply because of the sheer amount of updates they put out regularly. Sony does not do that. I'm a fan of cool UI as long as it works well, and the XB1 has that. The PS4 is good, but it's not close to the "next gen" feel I get every time I turn on the XB1.

[Wizeguy]

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MLB THE Show is the main reason to have a PS4.