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  • koolbubbaice
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    • May 2004
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    #3436
    Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

    Originally posted by ODogg
    well not sure about your store but mine here in richmond and online @ best buy don't have the new samsung 5087 & 5687 DLPs. they show the 5086 and 5686 as their samsung tv.
    Was talking about last yrs Samsung DLP's & last YRs SXRDs..
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    • ODogg
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      • Feb 2003
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      #3437
      Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

      For those of you who have the Samsung DLP's: How long does the tv take to turn on? I read one review of the Sony SXRD that said it took about a minute for it to turn on and just wondering if Samsungs are the same or not.
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      • ExtremeGamer
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        • Jul 2002
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        #3438
        Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

        I don't have either, but I do own a Sony and a Sammy tube. My Sony tube takes like 25 seconds to turn on. My Sammy tube is about 10 seconds. Both are HDTV's.

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        • mjb2124
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          • Aug 2002
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          #3439
          Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

          Originally posted by ODogg
          For those of you who have the Samsung DLP's: How long does the tv take to turn on? I read one review of the Sony SXRD that said it took about a minute for it to turn on and just wondering if Samsungs are the same or not.
          I'd say about 15 seconds. The picture comes on sooner than 15, but the bulb isn't fully lit until 15-20 seconds.

          I can check again tonight when I turn it on, but 15-20 seconds seems about right to me. Put it this way, I've never thought - "What the hell is taking so long".

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          • ODogg
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            • Feb 2003
            • 37953

            #3440
            Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

            Originally posted by joeboo
            I'd say about 15 seconds. The picture comes on sooner than 15, but the bulb isn't fully lit until 15-20 seconds.

            I can check again tonight when I turn it on, but 15-20 seconds seems about right to me. Put it this way, I've never thought - "What the hell is taking so long".

            Well that's cool, i woudl guess about a minute would be the area i'd say "what the hell is taking so long" but i guess i've never had to wait long for any of my tv's to turn on because they've been CRT's..
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            • ODogg
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              • Feb 2003
              • 37953

              #3441
              Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

              Originally posted by koolbubbaice
              http://www.imagingscience.com/ It's usually 6-8 hrs or an all day process..Depends on the tech..Can get a bit expensive..But they have varied pricing packages..They go beyond simple tweaks, & is pretty heavy duty. If you want to get the most out of yout new TV, I would highly reccomend it..Also ask for referals..Like in all profesions, you have good & bad.. I was going to do mine, but I had to spend 1,200 on my rot canal..& might sell my TV..
              Here is what I found for my local dealer that is certified from using that web site.

              Basic calibration: $85 (can be put toward the cost of a full ISF calibration within 1 year)

              calibrate user controls for all inputs with test DVD and HDTV generator

              eliminate red push

              ISF calibration: $375

              lens cleaning - much like an ionic air purifier, your TV is a dust magnet, creates a hazy/clouded image as dust builds up on the lens

              mechanical focus - twisting the lens, similar to focusing binoculars or a telescope, yielding a sharper picture

              electrostatic focus - ensures the smallest beam size or dot pitch possible, increasing apparent resolution

              geometry with template when possible - straightens TV picture, eliminating "speed bumps", correctly proportions images, and reduces overscan

              service level convergence - tightening overlap of red, green, and blue, eliminating color fringing and improving color definition

              lens striping if needed and requested - improves color uniformity from edge to edge (from left to right) across screen

              color decoding - eliminates "red push", chronic sunburn, calibrate hue & saturation of red, green, and blue individually

              gamma adjustment - brightness ratio defining how bright the middle picture level is in relation to the peak brightness and dark shadows.

              brightness stability - brightness locked in place with different average picture levels, bright scenes won't lose shadow detail

              reduce edge enhancement - gives picture much more natural appearance, reduces glowing around lines and objects

              center user controls - resetting user controls reverts to calibrated settings

              grayscale - foundation for accurate color reproduction, eliminating improper color tints in the grayscale, white will look white, black will look black, and gray will....well, you get the point

              all used inputs/scanrates calibrated - many TVs require separate calibration for different types of inputs, i.e. component, HDMI/DVI, 480p vs. 1080i scanrates

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              • JohnnytheSkin
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                • Jul 2003
                • 5914

                #3442
                Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                Originally posted by ODogg
                Here is what I found for my local dealer that is certified from using that web site.

                http://www.hdtvbychadb.com/display_t...projection.htm
                ChadB is one of the highest rated ISF calibrators over at avsforum...he's VERY highly recommended. You sir are lucky to have one like him in your area.

                Out here in Boise, nobody does the SXRD, and the one who will did a terrible job on my old Sammy DLP. He didn't know one thing about the service menu on the DLP and I foolishly rushed in since he was the only guy who would work on it. He had the tools, and did a grayscale adjustment (which did improve the picture) but he didn't touch the color decoding...which is notoriously bad on the DLP's.

                I could fly some good ISF'ers in from Washington state or Oregon, but I don't have several hundred for the calibration plus travel costs just lying around. Since Chad is in your area, shoot him an e-mail, and DEFINATELY pull the trigger on a calibration with him. From what I've heard you won't regret it!
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                • ODogg
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 37953

                  #3443
                  Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                  Originally posted by JohnnytheSkin
                  ChadB is one of the highest rated ISF calibrators over at avsforum...he's VERY highly recommended. You sir are lucky to have one like him in your area.

                  Out here in Boise, nobody does the SXRD, and the one who will did a terrible job on my old Sammy DLP. He didn't know one thing about the service menu on the DLP and I foolishly rushed in since he was the only guy who would work on it. He had the tools, and did a grayscale adjustment (which did improve the picture) but he didn't touch the color decoding...which is notoriously bad on the DLP's.

                  I could fly some good ISF'ers in from Washington state or Oregon, but I don't have several hundred for the calibration plus travel costs just lying around. Since Chad is in your area, shoot him an e-mail, and DEFINATELY pull the trigger on a calibration with him. From what I've heard you won't regret it!
                  Thanks man, it's good to hear he's highly rated. I am def. going to do this after my bank account recovers from the TKO that Samsung DLP is about to give to it. I just hope he doesn't laugh too heartily at my rather "cheap" Kenwood $700 surround sound system. At least i'll have a tv that isn't laughable though to someone like him.
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                  • CWood2
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                    • May 2004
                    • 4356

                    #3444
                    Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                    Hearing all this talk about calibration makes me want to ask about a slight problem that's developed on my tv...

                    I have a Sony 34" CRT...the XBR960 to be exact. It actually comes with a 2 year in home guarantee out of the box. On the bottom left corner, there is a small strip on the left edge of the screen that has a green hue to it...seen very rarely, like against a beige (basketball games for instance) or light greys. I want to get it fixed, but with my luck, I'd rather not have someone come and crack it open to fix something I can live with and create another, larger problem. Is there something I can do within the menus or anything low-risk that I can do to fix it on my own? Also, that edge of the TV is near a speaker, but it's guarded and shouldn't present a risk.

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                    • ExtremeGamer
                      Extra Life 11/3/18
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 35299

                      #3445
                      Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                      Originally posted by CWood2
                      Hearing all this talk about calibration makes me want to ask about a slight problem that's developed on my tv...

                      I have a Sony 34" CRT...the XBR960 to be exact. It actually comes with a 2 year in home guarantee out of the box. On the bottom left corner, there is a small strip on the left edge of the screen that has a green hue to it...seen very rarely, like against a beige (basketball games for instance) or light greys. I want to get it fixed, but with my luck, I'd rather not have someone come and crack it open to fix something I can live with and create another, larger problem. Is there something I can do within the menus or anything low-risk that I can do to fix it on my own? Also, that edge of the TV is near a speaker, but it's guarded and shouldn't present a risk.
                      Call Sony, have them come out. I had similar issues.

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                      • ODogg
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 37953

                        #3446
                        Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                        Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                        Call Sony, have them come out. I had similar issues.
                        Couldn't that be a speaker or something unshielded sitting too close to the TV? I've seen that before, it's either green or pink on the tv and you don't always see it, just against certain colours.
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                        • ExtremeGamer
                          Extra Life 11/3/18
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 35299

                          #3447
                          Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                          Originally posted by ODogg
                          Couldn't that be a speaker or something unshielded sitting too close to the TV? I've seen that before, it's either green or pink on the tv and you don't always see it, just against certain colours.
                          Speakers usually create pink or red hues. But that could be an option.

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                          • CWood2
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                            • May 2004
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                            #3448
                            Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                            Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                            Speakers usually create pink or red hues. But that could be an option.
                            It's a shielded speaker...one of 4 that I got from a Panasonic home theater system less than 2 years ago, so I'm thinking it's just a coincidence...

                            EG, what did Sony do for you to resolve that...or maybe what caused it if you remember? I think that I could call any licensed Sony store and have them come out and check it out for me since it's under warranty. I did that for a Toshiba 2 years back. Problem is you won't see it all the time, and it really is very minor...

                            Also, I've heard the term "degausing", or even "demagnitizing" a TV...anything behind those terms that could assist me?

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                            • ExtremeGamer
                              Extra Life 11/3/18
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 35299

                              #3449
                              Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                              Originally posted by CWood2
                              It's a shielded speaker...one of 4 that I got from a Panasonic home theater system less than 2 years ago, so I'm thinking it's just a coincidence...

                              EG, what did Sony do for you to resolve that...or maybe what caused it if you remember? I think that I could call any licensed Sony store and have them come out and check it out for me since it's under warranty. I did that for a Toshiba 2 years back. Problem is you won't see it all the time, and it really is very minor...

                              Also, I've heard the term "degausing", or even "demagnitizing" a TV...anything behind those terms that could assist me?
                              Ironically, I have a Panasonic home theater system as well, with 2 speakers next to the TV on the sides and one sitting on top, if it's like my home theater, you're fine there.

                              Sony gave me the biggest pain in the *** of my life. Took them 4 months, and 2 fixes to get it right, but they finally did and extended my warranty another year for my trouble. Hopefully it's not that bad for you.

                              My issue were dead phosphurs on the screen, looked like burn out pixels, when they replaced it, I had the same issue you did.

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                              • CWood2
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                                #3450
                                Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                                Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                                Ironically, I have a Panasonic home theater system as well, with 2 speakers next to the TV on the sides and one sitting on top, if it's like my home theater, you're fine there.

                                Sony gave me the biggest pain in the *** of my life. Took them 4 months, and 2 fixes to get it right, but they finally did and extended my warranty another year for my trouble. Hopefully it's not that bad for you.

                                My issue were dead phosphurs on the screen, looked like burn out pixels, when they replaced it, I had the same issue you did.
                                lol, that is wierd...same brands, same exact setup

                                Unfortunately, your story is kind of what I'm fearing though! It's minor to the point that because the picture quality is SO good on this television, I focus on it because I know it's there. Did they physically take your TV out for fixing, because I really don't want to lose it...and deal with getting the monster in and out again. And even more ironically, I've had the same luck with reoccurring issues or new ones that show up after getting any product of worth fixed!!

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