Brokeback Mountain

[NovaStar]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Those antiqutated sodomy laws were struck down by the Supreme Court. They didn't just cover "gay sex", they also outlawed oral sex between a man and a woman.

Nice....comparing the actions of 2 consenting adults to pedophillia. There is no comparison to the two and that argument is lame. Using your logic, I guess you are for a man having sex with a 10 year old girl since you only believe in male-female relationships.

If people don't want to watch this movie for any reason, it's no big deal. You have a right to your opinions. I personally am not bothered by homosexuality. I think the only open-mindedness you really need is to undertsand that a lot people do some whacky stuff in the privacy of their bedroom, whether it's male-female, male-male, female-female, and it should be none of your business.

I think you are missing my point. If a son has sex with his mother and they are both adults is that ok with you? The nexus in all of my examples is sex, and what certain sexual acts mean to different people. Wether the law recognizes certain things as legal or not is a side issue. Also, the supreme court, as one of the posters informed me just did away with sodomy laws in 2003, that hardly is old and antiquated as you put it.

[BGarrett7]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Well, given it's my own personal opinion, but that's just plain stupid and ignorant.

I believe NovaStar was basing the analogy more on the fact that he thought that sodomy laws were still illegal in some areas. I wouldn't be surprised if he has changed his stance on the two being comparitive now that he knows the laws in question were unconstitutional.

[ZB9]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

the controversial subject matter of this movie is going to get it a lot of awards. Those award organizations love giving awards to controversial films.

[aholbert32]

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I think you are missing my point. If a son has sex with his mother and they are both adults is that ok with you? The nexus in all of my examples is sex, and what certain sexual acts mean to different people. Wether the law recognizes certain things as legal or not is a side issue. Also, the supreme court, as one of the posters informed me just did away with sodomy laws in 2003, that hardly is old and antiquated as you put it.

Just because the Supreme Court ruled on it in 2003 doesnt mean it was an old law. It just means that the SC refused to hear a case on this matter until then.

[stiffarmleft]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

God, why did I say "open minded". What I should of said is if you can get over the homosexual overtones, but I guess it's too late for a retraction. In my initial post I by no means was insisting that someone that did not want to see this movie is homophobic or closed minded, but that under all the homosexuality was an interesting story with great acting.

I'll admit that if this was a movie about a guy and a girl, I would not be as interested in seeing it, I can of had the car accident mentality going into the movie. I wanted to see it, even though it would repulse me on some levels. It's kinda like watching fear factor, I would never eat a 100 year old bird egg but it's interesting to see none-the-less.

Many cannot watch fear factor because they find it disturbing that does not mean they are closed minded they would just rather not see such things, same thing applies here. "Open minded" was a poor choice of words, for the most part. But for anyone to insinuate that a person is gay for watching this movie is idiocy.

[Graphik]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

I'm the same way man, I don't see how it affects me.

Well, would if you lived next door to a place that houses gays? I live next door to a gay church and I have no choice but to be exposed to it. I've since made up my mind that gays are no diffrent than you or me. Therefor, it does'nt bother me what they do.


BTW, I appreciate the mods for keeping this thread open this long. The topic sure has went to something diffrent. Ethier that, or no mod has checked in in a while.

[Rickster101]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

The thing is Rickster..... a majority of society does NOT consider homosexual behavior as acceptable. But the Hollywood elite, the mainstream media and the like would not have you believe that.

This reminds me.....I can't wait to see Dennis Miller's new rant on HBO this month. Talk about a one time liberal who really puts things in perspective! Watch it if you can....this boy will make ya take a strong look at how you perceive things. His post-911 special was incredible.

I saw that one and the guy had me rolling on the floor and crackin' up funny guy IMO theres another guy who does specials there also but his name eludes me at this time both are great though!!!

You know me bro I just don't believe the hype anyway but try to put a smiley face on things and keep a healthy attitude about such things within reason but this, well its a matter of opinion and I have mine as you have yours bro.

Wait his name is Bill Mauer or something like that,the guy is off da hook also Chris Rock, satire at its finest all those guys are funny IMO!!!



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Rickster101

[NovaStar]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Pedophiles who make the same argument are taking advantage of kids.

Homosexuals have relationships as consenting adults.

Big difference.

And yes, if you believe homosexuality should be against the law, you are a bigot.

You are missing what I am saying. The whole point is just because you believe a sexual act is ok as long a consenting adults are involved is you view point. To me, there is always more to it than that. Again, what if a son wants to have sex with his mother and also wants to marry her? Is that ok with you? As far as pedophiles go, who are you to say they are taking advantage of kids? what if the kid is 15, I mean at what age do you draw the line? See, if you agree with one sexual preference you just can't cut off the arguments of the others. Once you open doors you can't easily shut them because you don't agree with all that enter.

[BGarrett7]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Just because the Supreme Court ruled on it in 2003 doesnt mean it was an old law. It just means that the SC refused to hear a case on this matter until then.

Actually, seventeen years earlier, the Supreme Court had upheld their constituationality.

[Graphik]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

the controversial subject matter of this movie is going to get it a lot of awards. Those award organizations love giving awards to controversial films.

Tell me about it, and the movie does'nt even have to be good. Just contrevesial.

[bkrich83]

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the controversial subject matter of this movie is going to get it a lot of awards. Those award organizations love giving awards to controversial films.

Yeah no chance it's just a well made, well shot picture. It's merits willl be based solely on those organization's agenda's.

[kirkhart]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

But Acid that is the point. Some people view homosexuality as being no different than the things I've mentioned. It doesn't mean their minds are closed or they are discrimminating, they just don't agree with the lifestyle. You have pedophiles making the same arguments that gays make. To follow their arguments to its end, anyone that doesn't agree with them would be a pedophobe.

The big difference is that homosexuality involves 2 consenting adults, as does heterosexuality. Your argument loses weight there, since you could make the assumption that you support pedophillia as long as it involves a child of the opposite sex...since you only view heterosexuality as the only "legit" relationship. I don't care if you don't "approve" of homosexuality, it's not like anyone has asked you to fly a rainbow flag on your porch. You have a right to your opinion and I respect it. If you don't want to watch Brokeback Mountain don't go see it. It's pretty simple.

[aholbert32]

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You are missing what I am saying. The whole point is just because you believe a sexual act is ok as long a consenting adults are involved is you view point. To me, there is always more to it than that. Again, what if a son wants to have sex with his mother and also wants to marry her? Is that ok with you? As far as pedophiles go, who are you to say they are taking advantage of kids? what if the kid is 15, I mean at what age do you draw the line? See, if you agree with one sexual preference you just can't cut off the arguments of the others. Once you open doors you can't easily shut them because you don't agree with all that enter.

Why cant you? I can accept Homosexuality (for other people) and think that pedophilia is wrong. Why? Because they are totally different things. One involves 2 consenting adults and 1 involves sex with a child. Big difference.

[aholbert32]

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Tell me about it, and the movie does'nt even have to be good. Just contrevesial.

Really? What was the last controversial movie to win best picture?

[NovaStar]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Just because the Supreme Court ruled on it in 2003 doesnt mean it was an old law. It just means that the SC refused to hear a case on this matter until then.

Well actually there is no such thing as an "old law". Law is law, some laws are outdated yet still enforcable. I think the fact that a majority of the people still find this topic highly debatable make it a very current law that has been repealed by the SP. But I understand what you were saying.