Brokeback Mountain

[Graphik]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Really? What was the last controversial movie to win best picture?

You got me there. What I really should of said is that many of the movies that win best picture awards are really snooze fest that no one you know has actually seen.

I was gonna reply to your other post, the one stating that the movie was well shot and directed. There are plenty of movies that are better than the past best picture winners. It seems as if you have to be in some sort of elite group of hollywood to get the nod. I honestly cant say I've watched a "best picture" winner movie in the last decade. I dont even know ppl who own these movies. Its not my circle cause I know alot of diffrent demographics of ppl and those movies never come up in any topic. I have the same feeling with all forms of entertainment. The "best" whatever tends to be something thats less than popular with the audience it's sopposed to reach. I cant understand it for the life of me.

[bkrich83]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

anyway, the Brokeback Mountain movie might be good. I dont know, because i havent seen it yet.

but, it's controversy is what will put it over the top when it comes to winning a crapload of awards. it already won the golden globe for best picture, and i guarantee you that it will win the oscar for best picture.

So it doesn't deserve those awards. It wins them strictly on controversy?

[stiffarmleft]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

I live in VA and up until 2003 I was breaking the law everytime my wife gave me a BJ.

LOL

[ZB9]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

So it doesn't deserve those awards. It wins them strictly on controversy?

actually, i dont know. I havent seen it.

but i guarantee you that the controversy doesnt hurt its chances. That controversy is causing a lot of buzz about the movie and a lot of people are discussing it. Just look at this thread.

like someone else said, if it were a love story between a man and a women, then it wouldnt be getting near the attention that it's getting.

[heelsman22]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Well, would if you lived next door to a place that houses gays? I live next door to a gay church and I have no choice but to be exposed to it. I've since made up my mind that gays are no diffrent than you or me. Therefor, it does'nt bother me what they do.


BTW, I appreciate the mods for keeping this thread open this long. The topic sure has went to something diffrent. Ethier that, or no mod has checked in in a while.

Actually, I live right next door to a gay couple. What I meant was that the laws/issues/debates over gay marraige or whatever don't really affect me.

[p2xgamers]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

What about the son wanting to marry his mother? Again, what is socially acceptable is different from what is legal. "Consenting adult" is a legal standard ,but I am sure you would apply a social standard to the son/mother example.

A son marrying his mother is completely different from man/man. Or do you mean an adult son and adult mother? (not saying either are right but just curious) As far as I know sons that try to marry there mother always have extreme mental problems, possibly with the mother even brainwashing them whereas homosexuality is something that they are not "pushed to".

With therapy gay people cannot 99.9999% of the time become straight (and if they switch, then they were probably never gay, just confused) whereas with therapy I'm sure the son would be set straight. I guess what I am getting at is a mother marrying her son is not real "love".

Ok I have no idea why I'm talking about this.

[aholbert32]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

You got me there. What I really should of said is that many of the movies that win best picture awards are really snooze fest that no one you know has actually seen.

I was gonna reply to your other post, the one stating that the movie was well shot and directed. There are plenty of movies that are better than the past best picture winners. It seems as if you have to be in some sort of elite group of hollywood to get the nod. I honestly cant say I've watched a "best picture" winner movie in the last decade. I dont even know ppl who own these movies. Its not my circle cause I know alot of diffrent demographics of ppl and those movies never come up in any topic. I have the same feeling with all forms of entertainment. The "best" whatever tends to be something thats less than popular with the audience it's sopposed to reach. I cant understand it for the life of me.

I've seen most of the last 15 Best Picture movies and I will say all of them were well deserving pictures. You dont know anyone who owns Gladiator (won in 2000) or Lord of the Rings 3 (2003)? I dont know one real movie fan who has never seen those films. You havent seen Silence of the Lambs, American Beauty, Forrest Gump, Braveheart or Unforgiven either? All best picture winners in the 90's

Also "Better" is subjective. I didnt think that Gladiator was the best film in 200 but I could see how it could win.

[aholbert32]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

actually, i dont know. I havent seen it.

but i guarantee you that the controversy doesnt hurt its chances. That controversy is causing a lot of buzz about the movie and a lot of people are discussing it. Just look at this thread.

like someone else said, if it were a love story between a man and a women, then it wouldnt be getting near the attention that it's getting.

The problem is that it does get that much attention. Homosexuality has been around forever so why is it a big deal that there is a movie about two gay cowboys?

[ZB9]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

I've seen most of the last 15 Best Picture movies and I will say all of them were well deserving pictures. You dont know anyone who owns Gladiator (won in 2000) or Lord of the Rings 3 (2003)? I dont know one real movie fan who has never seen those films. You havent seen Silence of the Lambs, American Beauty, Forrest Gump, Braveheart or Unforgiven either? All best picture winners in the 90's

Also "Better" is subjective. I didnt think that Gladiator was the best film in 200 but I could see how it could win.

controversial films dont always win, because there arent always controversial films being made every year that are actually well done also. A lot of the top movie companies dont have the guts to make something too controversial because they might be scared that they wont sell many tickets for that particular movie.

but If you combine a controversial subject matter, with a well done film, then it will probably get quite a bit of award recognition these days, not necessarily best picture, but quite a few others.

[pk500]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Really? What was the last controversial movie to win best picture?

Schindler's List, maybe, back in '93. Dealt with a previously untouched and touchy, emotional subject, the Holocaust.

But other than that, you're right: Best Picture winners have been pretty damn vanilla.

I thought "Philadelphia" was worthy of Best Picture back in 1993, and Hanks won Best Actor for it. But it wasn't even nominated for Best Picture, a sign that Hollywood wasn't ready to embrace a picture about AIDS and gay men (no pun intended).

No question that "Brokeback" is the leading contender for Best Picture at the Oscars. Also no question that the "gay angle" is helping its cause, but at least everyone says it's also a very good picture. I haven't seen it, but then again, I've seen one movie in the theater in the last three years.

Take care,
PK

[pk500]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

The problem is that it does get that much attention. Homosexuality has been around forever so why is it a big deal that there is a movie about two gay cowboys?

Come on, Aaron: You're not that naive.

"Brokeback" is a trailblazer (no pun intended) in so many ways:

-- It's the first big-budget Hollywood production about a gay love story that I can remember.

-- It's the first motion picture that I can recall since "Philadelphia" that is about gay men that has a big Hollywood star. "Philadelphia" had Hanks; "Brokeback" has Ledger and Gyllenthal.

-- I don't recall any love scenes in "Philadelphia." "Brokeback" puts homosexual love scenes out front and center in a major Hollywood film, for the first time ever.

-- "Brokeback" is about gay cowboys. Has there ever been a seemingly bigger oxymoron in a major movie that had homosexuality as a plot or sub-plot? It's one thing to have Greg Kinnear as an openly gay artist in "As Good As It Gets." But cowboys, the all-American ultra-macho profession?

-- Gay rights is a huge issue in the conservative times and culture war in which we live. This movie almost is subtly telling puritannical America: "You know what? Despite what Bush and his minions want you to believe, this kind of stuff DOES happen in America among supposedly macho men, and it's OK."

Take care,
PK

[ZB9]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

The problem is that it does get that much attention. Homosexuality has been around forever so why is it a big deal that there is a movie about two gay cowboys?

it has been around forever, and it has been taboo forever also.

some people in this country are worried that homosexuality is becoming too "accepted" and is dangerously close to becoming "mainstream". Some people believe that it would be bad for society.

but gay cowboys? comon now. that just dont seem right at all. the cowboy in the village people always disturbed me the most. There is just something not right about it. lol j/k

[daflyboys]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

Wait his name is Bill Mauer or something like that,the guy is off da hook also Chris Rock, satire at its finest all those guys are funny IMO!!! Rickster101

ya, but the Miller camp and the Mauer/Rock camp are....well two completely different camps!

[Brandwin]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

I give it two thangs up.

[TarHeelMan]

Re: Brokeback Mountain

I give it two thangs up.

Snaps, man... Snaps.... In a circle... And shake your moneymaker when you do that.... LOL