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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #31
    Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

    Originally posted by rockchisler
    If Pac And Big were still alive they would be 1 and 2 Jay would still be top Ten..But for the cat that said nobody was feelin Pac till he died does not know what he is talking bout when I was in colege in 95 cats use to actually fight about how sweet pac was I mean grown men fighting over 2pac it was crazy. Pac career was cut short but he is the equivalent of James Dean. It was his passion and the way he delievered that separated him from others, as for Biggie u saw his lyrics when he rapped and the only other man that could do that for me was Kool G Rap. Only reason G rap was not in the top ten cuz he never had that #1 smash like the others did..
    You have to reread my post. I never said people werent "feeling him." I admit that he was extremely popular in 95. But no one was saying he was the greatest rapper alive or even top 5 back then. When he died, people became sentimental and elevated his status.
    Last edited by aholbert32; 04-17-2006, 04:17 PM.

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    • Jistic
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 16405

      #32
      Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      You have to reread my post. I never said people werent "feeling him." I admit that he was extremely popular in 95. But no one was saying he was the greatest rapper alive or even top 5 back then. When he died, people became sentimental and eleveated his status.
      Death has always been a great way to sell albums in any music.
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      • Graphik
        Pr*s*n*r#70460649
        • Oct 2002
        • 10582

        #33
        Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

        I'm happy with the list. All great rappers IMO. Cant really put them in any order. I think thats where the conflicts start cause if there was'nt any order to the list, most of yall would have agreed already.

        IMO, Pac should be the #1. He may not have been the best lyricist but the emotion is unmatched. Thats the one thing thats missing in hip hop nowadays. Emotion. Thats why lots of ppl are hopping on Kanye's nuts.
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        • Graphik
          Pr*s*n*r#70460649
          • Oct 2002
          • 10582

          #34
          Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          You have to reread my post. I never said people werent "feeling him." I admit that he was extremely popular in 95. But no one was saying he was the greatest rapper alive or even top 5 back then. When he died, people became sentimental and elevated his status.

          True dat but Pac was #1 right before he died. His popularity was just about to reach the climax before he died. That sort of carried over after his death. Same thing with Big. Big was great but he hardly made enough music to really put himself in any catergory. He took Pac's spot and now he's considered one of the best ever.
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          • Graphik
            Pr*s*n*r#70460649
            • Oct 2002
            • 10582

            #35
            Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

            Originally posted by Jistic
            Death has always been a great way to sell albums in any music.


            Man, cats should of been up on Proof before he died. His album was really a sleeper. I already saw his album sell out this weekend when I went to the shop. Its sad that it takes violence to elevate ppl to listen to you.
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            • kuruption
              MVP
              • Nov 2004
              • 870

              #36
              Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              You have to reread my post. I never said people werent "feeling him." I admit that he was extremely popular in 95. But no one was saying he was the greatest rapper alive or even top 5 back then. When he died, people became sentimental and elevated his status.
              same thing with some famous painters or artist. correct ?
              And with the third pick - I made the earth sick
              M.J., hem Jay, fade away perfect

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              • kuruption
                MVP
                • Nov 2004
                • 870

                #37
                Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

                in case you didnt know . it takes much more than just lyrically ability or punchlines to be a great rapper .

                if that was the case tupac wouldnt be one of the 30 best rappers.
                Last edited by kuruption; 04-17-2006, 04:38 PM.
                And with the third pick - I made the earth sick
                M.J., hem Jay, fade away perfect

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #38
                  Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

                  Originally posted by kuruption
                  in case you didnt know . it takes much more than just lyrically ability or punchlines to be a great rapper .
                  I know but lyrical ability should be the biggest consideration when determining who was the greatest rapper. It should weigh more than popularity or record sales.

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                  • kuruption
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 870

                    #39
                    Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    I know but lyrical ability should be the biggest consideration when determining who was the greatest rapper. It should weigh more than popularity or record sales.
                    i dont think it should .
                    if that were the case than you wouldnt even have to have dope records to make the list.
                    And with the third pick - I made the earth sick
                    M.J., hem Jay, fade away perfect

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                    • jmood88
                      Sean Payton: Retribution
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 34639

                      #40
                      Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      This always cracks me up. I remember back in 95' before Pac's death, NOBODY was saying he was a top lyricist. He was definetly popular but no one would rate him over a Rakim or KRS back then. Its funny how dying makes you a better rapper.
                      Well he's also had more material out than either one of them.
                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #41
                        Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

                        Originally posted by forensicd
                        No honorable mention for mos def? His ryhmes are smart and smooth. Also, beasties should be in there somewhere, even though you cant really separate them, all 3 kick a**.
                        Yeah I can't believe they don't have mos on there although he hasn't put out that much but neither biggie put out less. I'm surprised they actually had Black Thought as an honorable mention though, he is very underrated.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • jmood88
                          Sean Payton: Retribution
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 34639

                          #42
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                          Originally posted by sportsdude
                          I know why you would make a comment like this, and your judgement is wayyyy off. But it's cool, keep on judging me all you want.
                          What? Your judgement is based off of what you have posted.
                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                          If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #43
                            Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

                            Originally posted by jmood88
                            Well he's also had more material out than either one of them.
                            Really? Just because you drop albums doesnt mean that they are good. Pac hasnt had a great album since Makaveli and only had 3 songs while he was alive that you could call outright classics (California Love, I Get Around and Keep Your Head Up). Dont get me wrong I love alot of Pac's songs but not all of them could be considered hits. Also, he never had a classic album while alive and Rakim and KRS did.

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                            • jmood88
                              Sean Payton: Retribution
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 34639

                              #44
                              Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

                              Originally posted by aholbert32
                              Really? Just because you drop albums doesnt mean that they are good. Pac hasnt had a great album since Makaveli and only had 3 songs while he was alive that you could call outright classics (California Love, I Get Around and Keep Your Head Up). Dont get me wrong I love alot of Pac's songs but not all of them could be considered hits. Also, he never had a classic album while alive and Rakim and KRS did.
                              I know that. I don't think that he's the greatest rapper ever but some people do equate more material with a better career.
                              Originally posted by Blzer
                              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                              • Thrasha
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 3374

                                #45
                                Re: mtvs top 10 greatest rappers ....

                                Pac career was cut short but he is the equivalent of James Dean.
                                So 2Pac was a closet homosexual?
                                “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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