Transformers the movie

[inkcil]

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I've only read the last few pages of this thread and based upon that I am in the minority b/c I was not impressed with the movie. Here are just a few reasons why...

1. Too much emphasis on humans and not enough on robots
2. Too much of story - and not a good story at that - is about Sam (his ancestor was a great explorer and his family is letting him pawn the stuff on Ebay so he can buy a car?!?!)
3. No real character development for majority (or arguably any) of the robots
4. When big action scenes happened I didn't care enough about the robots (except Bumblebee) to really care what happened
5. Scene where Sam went to the house to grab the eyeglasses went on waaay to long
6. Seems like the only reason they took the fight to the center of the city was so that the director could have shots of the robots hitting cars and sides of buildings (otherwise it made no sense to take that fight to the middle of a city and endanger all those civilians)
7. The dialogue - Jazz talking about "just chillin" sounded really corny
8. Would it have killed them to use the original theme music
9. Silly moments like when the girl makes the secret service guy strip down "for her dad's sake"
10. So they wanted Bumble bee to be a camaro. fine. but did they have to rub in in our face that he would not be a VW by having bernie mac try to sell sam a VW. Wow...how cocky is the director.
11. I din't like the artistic direction for the look of the robots in robot form - all wired and junky looking. Just a personal thing though.
12. Decipticons lacked all and any of the personality that made the cartoon so much fun.

Anyway, there are more gripes and a few things I liked about the movie too. But overall, I think the movie was aimed at kids and trying to create a new generation of Transformers fans rather than paying homage to the cartoon series. Which is fine if that's what they want to do...I just wish someone had made a Transformers movie that paid homage to the cartoon. THAT would be sweet.

[TheMatrix31]

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I have a feeling we'll get more robot character development in the next movie.....

[inkcil]

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This movie was my childhood brought to life. When you are a little kid and you are playing with your toys, this movie is what you come up dream of. Absolutely perfect. I got chills the first time they showed Optimus, chills when Megatron railed on Starscream, and chills when Optimus cut a dude's face off.

The only thing I would have changed about the film was Anthony Anderson's screen time (although I appreciated the Portis jersey).

I know alot of people were disappointed in Megatron not being a gun. But honestly, that would not have worked. What would have been more ridiculous than the most evil of all Transformers turning into a handheld pistol? I did enjoy the homage to the original Megatron, however, when he transformed his hands into a cannon.

The movie also gave new meaning to the term "three rings of death" when the 360 was transformed.

To the one's that didn't enjoy the film: You may have, at some point, murdered your inner child.

And as for the guy whose criticism was of the misuse of our military: I can handle it if you just didn't like the movie. But to rail on it because it didn't use proper military protocol and info is absolutely ridiculous. You may be the unhappiest movie-goer ever.

How would it be ridiculous for the most evil transformer to become a handheld pistol when that's what he was in the cartoon? I don't get that statement at all man. You thought the cartoon was ridiculous?

One of the tightest/sickest/hardest/most memorable scenes in Transformers history is at the beginning of the animated movie (1988 I think) when Megatron transforms into a "handheld pistol" and Starscream uses him to smoke like 5 Autobots. I think half of the kids in the theater either wet their pants or went into a sugar coma.

Megatron as a "handheld pistol" was no joke, patna!

[inkcil]

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I have a feeling we'll get more robot character development in the next movie.....

I hope so, just as long a Starscream isn't the one who comes back to revive Megatron. Just would never happen.

Of course, Soundwave would be the Decepticon for that job.

[jmood88]

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How would it be ridiculous for the most evil transformer to become a handheld pistol when that's what he was in the cartoon? I don't get that statement at all man. You thought the cartoon was ridiculous?

One of the tightest/sickest/hardest/most memorable scenes in Transformers history is at the beginning of the animated movie (1988 I think) when Megatron transforms into a "handheld pistol" and Starscream uses him to smoke like 5 Autobots. I think half of the kids in the theater either wet their pants or went into a sugar coma.

Megatron as a "handheld pistol" was no joke, patna!

Maybe in the cartoon that was cool but having the baddest robot turn into a handheld gun is pretty weak and it would make no sense with how they tried to make the robot's heights kind of match their vehicle forms.

[inkcil]

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Maybe in the cartoon that was cool but having the baddest robot turn into a handheld gun is pretty weak and it would make no sense with how they tried to make the robot's heights kind of match their vehicle forms.

IMO if it was good enough for back then its good enough for today...this movie did not improve upon the world of Transformers, so if it did something that the series was known for (ie Megatron transforms into a gun) then that would have improved the movie, IMO.

I don't know if you watched the cartoons or not but Transformers routinely transform into objects that do not match their robotic size. For instance, Optomis Prime's trailer is not present when he transforms to a Robot, Megatron becomes a gun, Soundwave and Blaster both turn into a small boom box, Perceptor transforms into a tabletop telescope, Astrotrain turns into a GIANT space shuttle...the list goes on and on of these huge robots turing into small objects and vice versa...that was just a natural part of many of the Transformers' ability. Michael Bay even borrowed this theory by having the HUGE cube transform into something that could be carried around by Sam. Given that train of thought, there's really no good reason why Megatron could not have been a gun except that this movie wasn't made to be a tried and true representation of the cartoon, but rather something to simply entertain the masses w/ a "Summer Blockbuster" by borrowing upon a cartoon series that a whole generation of kids grew up on. And that, IMO, is too bad.

There's no doubt in my mind I would have liked this movie more if I'd never heard of the Transfomers before in my life.

[inkcil]

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I think i was so blinded how awesome the action/transformer scenes were i didn't notice how bad the scenes were with Sector 7 and how bad the scenes were with Anthony Anderson and the computer geeks.

The time they wasted in those scenes they could have developed the Decepticons characters more. They should have made Starscream the whiny bitch he was back in day. What I loved about the cartoon is how much Megatron bashed Starscream and basically calling him a ******* the whole episode. Plus they made Devastator 1 robot, it would have been sick to save him for a sequal and have the Desctrutacons and make Devastator a huge robot. And hopefully Soundwave is in the next one also.

Though I love the movie, i do hate this common trend in action movies lately in forcing goofy/corny scenes like Spiderman dance scene and to Mr Fantastics bachelor party.

I agree with what you say here. Too much time was wasted on Sector 7, Anthony Anderson, stuff like that. The Decepticons didn't even get a chance to shine.

[ExtremeGamer]

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I went to see this movie again today because my wife hadn't seen it.

We sit in the back against the wall. Only a guy and a girl is back there with us, except against the far left wall.

We're watching the movie, and all of a sudden we hear the seat on our left side squeaking. Then it continued and continued. Brought us both out of our zone in the movie.

These two kids are on the side of us having sex in the movie, her sitting on top of him bouncing up and down, didn't care if the chair was squeaking or if we knew. We're in the same row, only a few seats away and these two are having it out

My wife couldn't keep her mind on the movie and wanted to say something to the both of them, disgusted the entire time, but im like, trying to ignore her because we paid money to see the movie not watch the show on the side of us.

Im just wondering though, what would you guys have done if you had seen that happening?


BTW,LOL@ all of you who said megatron turned into a gun....lol

If it bothered you and your wife, why wouldn't you go complain to the management, instead of coming here to complain? Since you've already seen it, would have taken 5 mins tops to get someone, and it's not like the 2 people would have known who complained. I know I would have said something if it was that distracting.

[Hootiefish]

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IMO if it was good enough for back then its good enough for today...this movie did not improve upon the world of Transformers, so if it did something that the series was known for (ie Megatron transforms into a gun) then that would have improved the movie, IMO.

But things have to evolve. Like I stated before, Soundwave can't be a boombox in the next movie. And 99% of the audience would not accept transformers mass shifting. It would not be a good business decision to alienate most of your target audience to please some hardcores.

I said it before, I'll say it again. The baddest robot in the universe should not have to rely on someone else aiming and firing him to be effective. It was a mistake then and would have been a mistake now.

[23]

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If it bothered you and your wife, why wouldn't you go complain to the management, instead of coming here to complain? Since you've already seen it, would have taken 5 mins tops to get someone, and it's not like the 2 people would have known who complained. I know I would have said something if it was that distracting.

It didn't bother me. I just couldn't believe the shamelessness of how they just didn't care.

Remember we weren't the only ones around them, just besides one guy, the only other two in the same row.

Honestly, my wife was more distracting than they were.

[Cebby]

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IMO if it was good enough for back then its good enough for today...this movie did not improve upon the world of Transformers, so if it did something that the series was known for (ie Megatron transforms into a gun) then that would have improved the movie, IMO.

I don't know if you watched the cartoons or not but Transformers routinely transform into objects that do not match their robotic size.

And that's fine in a cartoon, but in contrast to real things, it would look ridiculous.

[23]

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But things have to evolve. Like I stated before, Soundwave can't be a boombox in the next movie. And 99% of the audience would not accept transformers mass shifting. It would not be a good business decision to alienate most of your target audience to please some hardcores.

I said it before, I'll say it again. The baddest robot in the universe should not have to rely on someone else aiming and firing him to be effective. It was a mistake then and would have been a mistake now.

Im sorry but stop using soundwave as your only reasoning when they had a little GPX radio there who killed plenty of people, and even went after the Secretary of defense.

Megatron in gun for shot himself in the cartoon most of the time. I don't see it being that unbelievable when they had fighter jets bombing on a scorpion and it kept going strong.

I mean goodness, you cannot change what something is and have the same effect.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Im sorry but stop using soundwave as your only reasoning when they had a little GPX radio there who killed plenty of people, and even went after the Secretary of defense.

Megatron in gun for shot himself in the cartoon most of the time. I don't see it being that unbelievable when they had fighter jets bombing on a scorpion and it kept going strong.

I mean goodness, you cannot change what something is and have the same effect.

I thought Megatron always landed in Starscream's hands to shoot?

Megatron could fly in the cartoon as well. I don't mind the fact he's a spaceship now, like someone said earlier, he never even had a chance to scan something to become something else.

[Beantown]

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10. So they wanted Bumble bee to be a camaro. fine. but did they have to rub in in our face that he would not be a VW by having bernie mac try to sell sam a VW. Wow...how cocky is the director.

Should have read more of the thread...

VW and Porsche would not allow their cars to be the Transformers, citing that they did not want to be associated with "war vehicles."

[mizzta21]

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Wow...maybe I starting to get out of touch with mainstream america.

I hated this movie....hated it. The worst thing about it was that I had low expectations coming into it. I told people that as long as it was robots fighting for 90 minutes I would be happy. I didnt care about the script or plot holes just robots fighting. So what did they do? They waste about an hour with the humans when no one gives a crap about the humans other than Shia Lebouf's character (who is going to be a star) Here is a short list of what I hated:



!!!!Spoilers below!!!!



- The CGI was good but they did little to distinguish each transformer with the exception of optimus and bumblebee. Megatron and Starscream looked too much alike.

- Some of the fight scenes were disorienting and the design of the transformer made it hard to see who was hurting who in some scenes

- They deviated too much from the Transformer origin: Megatron wasnt a gun? Bumblebee is a Mustang?

- Did we really need the hot scientist or the soldiers or the secretary of defense?

I have more but I dont have time to type them all. Its a C-, D movie imo.

1.id like to see you work on the CGI, give credit where credit is due

2.i do agree that the fight scenes were kinda disorienting but they were entertaining.

3.bumblebee was a camaro in the movie, get it right

4.and no we didnt need the hot scientist, but still great to look at.