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**dagger55** · 06-22-2007, 08:44 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by RockyTop1

My only concern would be how is that thing not going to be one huge fingerprint smudge after about 5 minutes?

The glass is supposed to prevent smudging...

I guess that will be one of those things you have to see to believe...

There is also a post that was posted at Macrumors.com yesterday from a guy that has seen and interacted with iPhone, and said the Edge network was "much faster than he anticipated." He said that will all the badmouthing about how the device isnt 3G, he was expected things to go SLOWWWW... But he said it went surprisingly quick. Cant wait until next friday.

**RockyTop1** · 06-22-2007, 08:46 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

ugh, why does that thing have to be so freaking cool

**dagger55** · 06-22-2007, 08:48 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by RockyTop1

ugh, why does that thing have to be so freaking cool

I also wouldnt be surprised if this thing came with a cloth to clean that screen...

But i havent read that anywhere, and I also havent heard anyone say it would need one who has used it.

**dagger55** · 06-22-2007, 08:51 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

iPhone 360 View (requires Quicktime)

**dagger55** · 06-23-2007, 03:16 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Debbie Downer news from someone who has supposedly had access to the phone

The keyboard was simply described as "disappointing". Keyboarding with two thumbs often registers multiple key presses (two or three at a time) resulting in a lot of mistakes. The best way to type is with a single finger (as shown in most of Apple's demos), but two thumbs is supposedly very difficult. After trying it for a number of days our source gave up using their thumbs.

The text auto-correction only works well for simple words, but doesn't work for proper names. We can only assume this bit will get better with time as Apple fills out its predictive text dictionary.

"It won't replace a BlackBerry. It's not good for text input. It's just not a business product."

The touchscreen was said to, in general, require somewhat hard presses to register input, and needs some getting used to.

In addition to its dock, the iPhone comes packaged with a polishing cloth (the thing's supposedly a fingerprint magnet, no surprise) and the usual smallish power adapter.

The Bluetooth headset will debut in the $120 range, and will come with its own dock for charging both the phone and the headset. The headset will feature a miniature magnetic charging interface á la MagSafe.

The Bluetooth headset has a hidden LED and is supposedly a very small and elegant device. Sound quality is said to be "typical". There is no clip; like many headsets you're expected to just let it hang out of your ear, as previously shown.

The browser "worked well" but page load speeds on EDGE were just as slow as expected. It sounds like 3G users will have a tough run with this.
Users must scroll through the address book (or use the alphabet-drag on the side) -- one cannot bring up the keyboard and type in a name, as many of us are used to.

Shocker: YouTube over EDGE didn't work well at all, and will basically necessitate use of WiFi.

New details about the iPhone

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/23/new-details-about-the-iphone/

Remember the winning Engadget commercial, "The Long Arm of Steve Jobs"? We posted it after the break, but finding someone who's spent some serious time with a pre-launch iPhone and getting them to talk is basically a lot like that. Still, we managed to smuggle out some freshly leaked details from a very trusted inside source who's been fooling around with a unit. Here's what they had to say: The keyboard was simply described as "disappointing". Keyboarding with two thumbs often registers multiple key presses (two or three at a time) resulting in a lot of mistakes. The best way to type is with a single finger (as shown in most of Apple's demos), but two thumbs is supposedly very difficult. After trying it for a number of days our source gave up using their thumbs. The text auto-correction only works well for simple words, but doesn't work for proper names. We can only assume this bit will get better with time as Apple fills out its predictive text dictionary. "It won't replace a BlackBerry. It's not good for text input. It's just not a business product." The touchscreen was said to, in general, require somewhat hard presses to register input, and needs some getting used to. In addition to its dock, the iPhone comes packaged with a polishing cloth (the thing's supposedly a fingerprint magnet, no surprise) and the usual smallish power adapter. The Bluetooth headset will debut in the $120 range, and will come with its own dock for charging both the phone and the headset. The headset will feature a miniature magnetic charging interface á la MagSafe. Click on for more impressions on the headset, browser, YouTube, and more.

**dagger55** · 06-23-2007, 06:24 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

I am tempted to make the 20 minute drive over to Georgia (and the Eastern Time Zone) in order to get that phone an hour early.....

**RockyTop1** · 06-23-2007, 10:52 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by dagger55

I am tempted to make the 20 minute drive over to Georgia (and the Eastern Time Zone) in order to get that phone an hour early.....

Stay out, we don't want you in our zone.

**dagger55** · 06-23-2007, 11:06 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by RockyTop1

Stay out, we don't want you in our zone.

I'll be sure to send you a PM from my shiney new iPhone

**RockyTop1** · 06-23-2007, 11:25 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by dagger55

I'll be sure to send you a PM from my shiney new iPhone

If you can see it from the finger smudges

**CoRruPt-** · 06-24-2007, 12:15 AM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Add another disadvantage to the iPhone: internal SIM cards :P.

It would be fine if you never have a problem with it (which I'll highly doubt; first generation Apple products are...

). But I can just imagine the pain it would be to pry open the phone and risk breaking it if you have to call customer support with your SIM card credentials.

**JRod** · 06-24-2007, 12:36 AM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by CoRruPt-

Add another disadvantage to the iPhone: internal SIM cards :P.

It would be fine if you never have a problem with it (which I'll highly doubt; first generation Apple products are...

). But I can just imagine the pain it would be to pry open the phone and risk breaking it if you have to call customer support with your SIM card credentials.

Ahh probably what you do now if you have a problem. Give them your phone number and a few other personal details.

**dagger55** · 06-24-2007, 01:01 AM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by CoRruPt-

Add another disadvantage to the iPhone: internal SIM cards :P.

It would be fine if you never have a problem with it (which I'll highly doubt; first generation Apple products are...

). But I can just imagine the pain it would be to pry open the phone and risk breaking it if you have to call customer support with your SIM card credentials.

Actually it appears that there is some sort of slot of the top of the iPhone, and people are speculating that is where the SIM card will go.

Here is a pic:

The slot in the middle was the only external part of the phone that was not referenced in the 20 minute video yesterday, so it is still all speculation.

**JRod** · 06-24-2007, 01:36 AM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

So who's getting one this week?

**jmood88** · 06-24-2007, 09:35 AM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by dagger55

I am tempted to make the 20 minute drive over to Georgia (and the Eastern Time Zone) in order to get that phone an hour early.....

You are really fiending for that phone.

**dagger55** · 06-24-2007, 12:58 PM

Re: iPhone on June 29.

Originally posted by jmood88

You are really fiending for that phone.

yes...

and I am going to be REALLY REALLY REALLY disappointed if the monthly price plans for iPhone come out on Wednesday, and they simply arent feasible and it prevents me from getting one

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