****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

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  • fistofrage
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    • Aug 2002
    • 13682

    #736
    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

    Originally posted by moose1619
    aside from the Aaron information last nights episode didn't have much meat to it. I mean i thought that was a huge development, but no other important info was gained. The helicopter not making it back to the freighter is kinda interesting. Can't wait til next week to see what happens.

    I would agree. Here are some random thoughts:

    It was just a way of explaining why Kate isn't in the Pokie right now. Its a little lame, I would think that they would have more evidence than her mother's statement to track her half way around the world to bring her back. Wasn't she involved in bank robbery and other shenanigans.

    Good old Ben, living the American dream. Dude went from basically being an orphan living in a commune to multi-millionaire. This whole thing is starting to wreak. Dharma was a commune that would have no use for money, everything was provided. So Richards band of ageless wonders must have had serious connections on the outside. We would have to have serious flashbacks of Ben's teenage and twenties to fully understand how he ascended to this position of prominance.

    Why was Claire able to have a baby on the island again? And they fear that everyone else would die if they tried it?

    They made it a point to show that they were using Dharma food & supplies both at the beach and in the commune. Noone seems real concerned about rationing it, even at the commune where they intend to stay holed up, so are we to assume the Dharma airdrops are still happening? If there are airdrops happening and have happened in the past, someone knows how to get back and forth to the island. I think that the people on the helicoptor are most likely associated with Whidmore and they should have decent knowledge of how to get to and from the island as Whidmore funded Hanso. Once that giant electric magnet was destroyed by Desmon, it would seem that the island would be easier to locate from the outside by anyone as well.
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    • ODogg
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      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #737
      Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

      Originally posted by fistofrage
      Yeah, but why would she say she had to get back to him....Its pitch black outside so it must be late and he should be sleeping, he has a nanny unless Kate is that irresponsible that she left a toddler alone.
      You're looking at it from a man's point of view, I know plenty of women who routinely will break off engagements to get back to their infants, even though they have sitters, I guess it's just a woman thing, unless the baby is in sight they worry somethings happening to it.
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      • Chief Illinimac
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        • Dec 2004
        • 2365

        #738
        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

        Personally, I feel like this was another typical Kate episode that doesn't really benefit the viewer unless you are really interested in her back story (which I, for one, am not). The Aaron reveal was not really a big WTF moment for me, but it raises a lot of questions. I don't think Claire is dead or anything, I think she was just forced to stay back and asked Kate to take Aaron or something. I was pretty annoyed at the fact that the whole Miles-Ben meeting didn't really give any real info about who either of them are, other than that Ben has mucho dinero.

        Eh, just one bad episode. Still not close to the Jack's tats episode, but this was the low of the season to this point. Next week looks ridiculously good though.
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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #739
          Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

          That's was probably one of most predictable episodes this season. My G/F and I saw the Aaron thing a miiiiiiile away. ad: Guess I'll look forward to next week. Just for the record... does Aaron count as one of the Oceanic 6?
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          • Geff
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            • May 2004
            • 180

            #740
            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

            Originally posted by SportsorDeath
            I don't believe Jack's car got smashed up on the bridge, though. He had it parked right next to where he went up on the ledge, and the lady crashed into a median or something nearby, which I think she hit because she was avoiding Jack's parked car.
            You're right, Jack pulled up in his jeep when he met Kate at the airport. I guess the main clue for the flash forward timeline with him is the beard.

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            • Geff
              Rookie
              • May 2004
              • 180

              #741
              Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

              Originally posted by fistofrage
              Yeah, but why would she say she had to get back to him....Its pitch black outside so it must be late and he should be sleeping, he has a nanny unless Kate is that irresponsible that she left a toddler alone.
              I think Kate just wanted an excuse to get away from an uncomfortable situation with Jack.

              Claire was able to have a baby on the island because she wasn't impregnated there. Same with the french lady. Sun was impregnated on the island and that's why she's screwed.

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              • tanis38
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 1100

                #742
                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                Originally posted by moose1619
                aside from the Aaron information last nights episode didn't have much meat to it. I mean i thought that was a huge development, but no other important info was gained. The helicopter not making it back to the freighter is kinda interesting. Can't wait til next week to see what happens.
                I actually found Jack's testimony of the crash more interesting than the crazy revelation of Aaron at the end. Now we know the "lie" they have been saying all this time (or at least, a large part of it, since he didn't finish).
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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #743
                  Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                  Originally posted by Geff
                  I think Kate just wanted an excuse to get away from an uncomfortable situation with Jack.

                  Claire was able to have a baby on the island because she wasn't impregnated there. Same with the french lady. Sun was impregnated on the island and that's why she's screwed.
                  It hasnt been confirmed that Sun was impregnated on the Island. It could be the guy she was cheating with baby.

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                  • fistofrage
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13682

                    #744
                    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    It hasnt been confirmed that Sun was impregnated on the Island. It could be the guy she was cheating with baby.
                    I always thought it was the other guy too. Of course that's when I thought Juliet was playing some angle. I'm not sure that she has an angle now.

                    And Waht's up with Juliet? She always has that stupid smirk on her face. Is she like the Joker and that's just her natural look or is she really that smug and is smirking at the silly Losties because she is using them to achieve her agenda.


                    And where does everyone think Ben's money comes from? Nobody has commented on his rags to riches story.
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                    • Chief Illinimac
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                      • Dec 2004
                      • 2365

                      #745
                      Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      It hasnt been confirmed that Sun was impregnated on the Island. It could be the guy she was cheating with baby.
                      I thought it was confirmed in the episode where Juliet took her for the ultrasound. She was happy because it was Jin's baby, but knew she was gonna die because of it.
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                      • moose1619
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 884

                        #746
                        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                        Originally posted by tanis38
                        I actually found Jack's testimony of the crash more interesting than the crazy revelation of Aaron at the end. Now we know the "lie" they have been saying all this time (or at least, a large part of it, since he didn't finish).
                        Someone is the mastermind behind this lie? Could it be Ben? Someone had to make Kate a hero to avoid jail. Also Jack said 8 survived the Crash, but we only hear of Oceanic 6. Will they admit to a few dying. Does Ben being of the island just show that he had means of getting off the island or something else? Also why would they just use jack as a character witness, what about Hurley, Sayid, wouldn't you want to strenghten your case, or would they be scared the lie would unravel. Man this show...
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                        • Geff
                          Rookie
                          • May 2004
                          • 180

                          #747
                          Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                          Originally posted by aholbert32
                          It hasnt been confirmed that Sun was impregnated on the Island. It could be the guy she was cheating with baby.
                          Julliet confirmed she was impregnated on the island by Jin. While it was good news, it was also a death sentence.

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #748
                            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                            Originally posted by moose1619
                            Someone is the mastermind behind this lie? Could it be Ben? Someone had to make Kate a hero to avoid jail. Also Jack said 8 survived the Crash, but we only hear of Oceanic 6. Will they admit to a few dying. Does Ben being of the island just show that he had means of getting off the island or something else? Also why would they just use jack as a character witness, what about Hurley, Sayid, wouldn't you want to strenghten your case, or would they be scared the lie would unravel. Man this show...

                            Hurley has been in a psych ward twice and Sayid is out of the US and a former Iraq torturer. I dont think they would be strong character witnesses.

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                            • fistofrage
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 13682

                              #749
                              Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                              Originally posted by aholbert32
                              Hurley has been in a psych ward twice and Sayid is out of the US and a former Iraq torturer. I dont think they would be strong character witnesses.

                              Yet Jack seemed worried about Hurley spilling the beans. You bring up a good point, it would be pretty easy to discount anything Hurley says.
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                              • tanis38
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 1100

                                #750
                                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                Originally posted by moose1619
                                Someone is the mastermind behind this lie? Could it be Ben? Someone had to make Kate a hero to avoid jail. Also Jack said 8 survived the Crash, but we only hear of Oceanic 6. Will they admit to a few dying. Does Ben being of the island just show that he had means of getting off the island or something else? Also why would they just use jack as a character witness, what about Hurley, Sayid, wouldn't you want to strenghten your case, or would they be scared the lie would unravel. Man this show...

                                If I remember correcty Jack said that the plane crashed in the water, 8 made it ashore, but that 2 eventually died. Which just opens up a can of worms!! Who were those 8?!?!?! We know that Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid are four of them.
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