****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

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  • Herbsinator
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    • Sep 2003
    • 4573

    #781
    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

    Originally posted by Porschebenz2001
    I don't think anything happened to Claire. She's probably still on the island. I think Kate stole the baby and told their rescuers that it was her baby. That way the 6 wouldn't have to deal with the ?'s about Claire.

    That's why Jack didn't want to see the baby. He knows Kate stole it, and doesn't want any part of it. Maybe the thing that makes him flip out wanting to go back to the island is finding out Claire is his step sister. He can't bring himself to keep his step sister away from her daughter.

    Kate is only looking out for #1 and wants no part of going back to the island. Sayid, Hurley, and Jack have all had thoughts about going back to the island. Kate hasn't. That seem kind of weird to anyone else?

    Just another crazy theory I'm throwing out there.
    Why the hell would Kate steal a baby?

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    • Porschebenz2001
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      • Nov 2004
      • 3628

      #782
      Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

      That way the 6 wouldn't have to deal with the ?'s about Claire.
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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #783
        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

        Originally posted by Porschebenz2001
        I don't think anything happened to Claire. She's probably still on the island. I think Kate stole the baby and told their rescuers that it was her baby. That way the 6 wouldn't have to deal with the ?'s about Claire.

        That's why Jack didn't want to see the baby. He knows Kate stole it, and doesn't want any part of it. Maybe the thing that makes him flip out wanting to go back to the island is finding out Claire is his step sister. He can't bring himself to keep his step sister away from her daughter.

        Kate is only looking out for #1 and wants no part of going back to the island. Sayid, Hurley, and Jack have all had thoughts about going back to the island. Kate hasn't. That seem kind of weird to anyone else?

        Just another crazy theory I'm throwing out there.
        Thats too obvious imo. Just like the show was leading people to believe that Sawyer was the person that she had to get back too and that the baby was Sawyer's and not Aaron.

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #784
          Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

          Originally posted by Porschebenz2001
          That way the 6 wouldn't have to deal with the ?'s about Claire.
          But there wouldn't be questions if they didn't take the baby.

          The only reason I can have for Kate stealing Aaron is because she thought it would help her stay out of jail. However, stealing Aaron out of Claire's arms while everyone else watched seems extremely out of character for guys like Hurley, Sayid, and Jack. Why would they just watch this happen?

          I want to believe there's something sinister about it, though, because it seems too easy for it to just be that Kate is caring for Aaron. Why not just have Claire come with them?

          Nah, there's something to it. And whatever that is is probably why Jack doesn't want to see the kid. He knows that Kate's caring for the child has a lot to do with the lies they are making.

          The flashforward is definitely before Jack goes nuts and wants to go back to the Island. You guys are over-thinking it if you think it's after. The beard and Jack being a drunk are the two keys to knowing when Jack's flashforwards occur.

          Sayid's flashforward is also explained. Sayid is protecting his friends both on and off the Island. They are trying to stop people from uncovering the truth of what happened the day the Oceanic 6 were rescued. The only thing we don't know is why they need to keep it a secret so badly.

          As for 8 survivors. There's no need for any of them to have died. The other two could very well be Michael and Walt. Since they are assumed off the Island we can attach them as being the other survivors. But that's just a guess because that doesn't explain why it wouldn't be Oceanic 8 with 6 others being saved later.

          I'm also going to guess that Aaron was kept a secret. He's young enough (right now) for someone to pretend he was born a year later.

          Another pretty big clue is Aaron's age. He looked to be about two years old or so. Whatever it is, he's definitely not just a few months older than his current age on the Island.
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          • Double Eights
            Banned
            • Nov 2005
            • 5733

            #785
            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

            Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
            Another pretty big clue is Aaron's age. He looked to be about two years old or so. Whatever it is, he's definitely not just a few months older than his current age on the Island.
            It's been four years since the crash.

            Kate's mother was talking about how she had been given 6 months to live for the past four years, ever since Oceanic 815 went missing.

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #786
              Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

              Originally posted by Double Eights
              It's been four years since the crash.

              Kate's mother was talking about how she had been given 6 months to live for the past four years, ever since Oceanic 815 went missing.
              4 years since the crash but that doesn't say how long the Oceanic 6 have been back.

              With the whole time issue, I still wouldn't be surprised if those that returned discover that a few years passed by while they were spending 3 months on the Island.
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #787
                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                Originally posted by Herbsinator
                Why the hell would Kate steal a baby?
                It's Kate, need we say more?
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                • stephenyoungchoi
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 544

                  #788
                  Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                  maybe Claire gave him up so that he can live in the real world and not the island?? or Claire dies...... only 2 reasonable explanations i can think of.....

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #789
                    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                    I wouldn't be surprised if Claire gets killed off, she has less use on the show than Kate.
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                    • Herbsinator
                      All Star
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 4573

                      #790
                      Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                      I forsee some sort of situation where kate is leaving the island and for whatever reason claire can't leave the island. So claire gives the baby to kate to take off the island. Maybe claire will die if she leaves the island

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                      • tanis38
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1100

                        #791
                        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                        I still don't think that fully explains why Jack is so against (scared of) seeing Aaron.
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                        • fistofrage
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13682

                          #792
                          Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                          Kate was awful quick to take that Plea deal for the probation and they made a point of saying she couldn't leave the state. I don't think she wants anything to do with going back to the island or anywhere. She's perfectly happy being tied down where she's at. So she takes the deal so Jack can't coerce her to go anywhere.

                          How she gets Aaron will be revealed, but I'm pretty sure it involves Claire dying.
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                          • fistofrage
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13682

                            #793
                            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                            Originally posted by tanis38
                            I still don't think that fully explains why Jack is so against (scared of) seeing Aaron.
                            I think at the point that Jack was at the parking ramp behind the courthouse with Kate, he was still trying to believe his lie was true. Aaron most likely brings back hard reminders of the island that don't coincide with his lie he's trying to live.
                            Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                            • ndeezlo
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3272

                              #794
                              Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                              Maybe Jack just hates kids...
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                              • Ents690
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 469

                                #795
                                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                you could be onto something... you know what happens when a guy finds out the girl he's after is a mother...

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