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  • luv_mist
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    • May 2004
    • 9596

    #1

    U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

    I knew it was pretty piss poor, but this isn't what I expected. So much for all these people tooting the horn on our healthcare and stuff. Nation is really in a rut.

    France 1, US last
  • nemesis04
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    • Feb 2004
    • 13530

    #2
    Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

    The US took the route of business first help the people second. Until that changes we will have a firm hold of last place.
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    • fishepa
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      • Feb 2003
      • 18989

      #3
      Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

      France sucks.

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      • bkfount
        All Star
        • Oct 2004
        • 8467

        #4
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        Originally posted by fishepa
        France sucks.
        even so, we are a superpower that should at least care enough to not be last on this list.

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        • ODogg
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          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #5
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          I guess that's why every time someone needs the best health care in the world they go to France huh? Yeah right.
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          • mgoblue
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            • Jul 2002
            • 25477

            #6
            Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

            I personally have no clue, but I have to wonder if the population and physical size of the US vs. France and other European countries has something to do with it...just physically less hospitals, less people to treat, etc.
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            • Cebby
              Banned
              • Apr 2005
              • 22327

              #7
              Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

              Originally posted by mgoblue
              I personally have no clue, but I have to wonder if the population and physical size of the US vs. France and other European countries has something to do with it...just physically less hospitals, less people to treat, etc.
              There's also the crime rate point about illegals. Every year, Arizona and New Mexico will have ridiculously high crime rates because there's a substantial population who's crime counts, but their population doesn't. I have a feeling this at least affected the study a little, as there are tens of millions of people not counted in our population that will still die.

              That said, we may be last of 19 countries, but we're still better than the rest.

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              • The C
                Banned
                • Apr 2005
                • 7538

                #8
                Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

                U S A! U S A!

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                • Skerik
                  Living in this tube
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 5215

                  #9
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                  At last, empirical proof. Socialism works!!!!



                  ....just kidding.
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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #10
                    Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

                    I see Canada is slipping. This is mainly due to long wait times and the brain drain of good doctors and staff. Still, I'd take getting health care from a Canadian institution then a US one, unless the US one is one of the more world renowned clinics in a certain field (Mayo Clinic for example)

                    I do think the numbers are skewed as France does have a good infrastructure but they don't have nearly the demands as North America nor the crime related injuries and such that are more prevalent here.

                    Last but not least America has for YEARS taken too much of a corporate tact when it comes to health care. I don't like Hillary Clinton at all but I applaud her and other Democrats for at least offering a viable solution to some problems. It still baffles the hell out of me that the only superpower in the world doesn't have Universal Health Insurance.
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                    • ODogg
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 37953

                      #11
                      Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

                      Originally posted by mgoblue
                      I personally have no clue, but I have to wonder if the population and physical size of the US vs. France and other European countries has something to do with it...just physically less hospitals, less people to treat, etc.
                      Not to mention healthcare here is subjective to whether you have insurance or not, as it should be. If have a a socialized system then everyone getting average care is going to average out to show better than in a capitalistic system such as ours where those who are insured get great care and those who do not have insurance get average or below average care. That doesn't mean that you can look at the study and deduct that our health care is worse, it's just worse if you're uninsured.
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                      • Brandon13
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 8915

                        #12
                        Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

                        Health care needs to be reformed in the US but I don't believe socialized health care is the answer.

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                        • jmood88
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 34639

                          #13
                          Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

                          Originally posted by ODogg
                          Not to mention healthcare here is subjective to whether you have insurance or not, as it should be. If have a a socialized system then everyone getting average care is going to average out to show better than in a capitalistic system such as ours where those who are insured get great care and those who do not have insurance get average or below average care. That doesn't mean that you can look at the study and deduct that our health care is worse, it's just worse if you're uninsured.
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                          • Nivek
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 7999

                            #14
                            Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

                            Originally posted by ODogg
                            I guess that's why every time someone needs the best health care in the world they go to France huh? Yeah right.
                            No they go to cuba...oh wait!
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                            • daflyboys
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                              • May 2003
                              • 18238

                              #15
                              Re: U.S. Dead Last in Healthcare ranking

                              Originally posted by jmood88
                              Having insurance doesn't mean that you get great care.
                              ...and having socialized medical programs MEANS that you WON'T get great care.

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