**Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

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  • Cabke
    MVP
    • Mar 2006
    • 2607

    #2746
    Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
    Blzer, did you end up keeping your TV calibration settings that Best Buy did at your house, or did you go back to what you had originally?

    Asking because I have not heard back from Chad B. and I wrote an e-mail 2 months ago. Been thinking about the Best Buy calibration.
    If you're a Premier Silver Member you get one free calibration a year. Just in case you didn't know.
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    • PhilliesFan13
      Banned
      • May 2009
      • 15651

      #2747
      Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

      Originally posted by Cabke
      If you're a Premier Silver Member you get one free calibration a year. Just in case you didn't know.
      Yeah, I am a Premier Silver member which is why I was curious. Love Premier Silver.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42533

        #2748
        Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

        Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
        Blzer, did you end up keeping your TV calibration settings that Best Buy did at your house, or did you go back to what you had originally?

        Asking because I have not heard back from Chad B. and I wrote an e-mail 2 months ago. Been thinking about the Best Buy calibration.
        I tweaked them, but mostly just the white balance settings. My whites never really looked white after the guy left; they just looked far too green. That wasn't being unaccustomed to the new look, either. His measurements were just off.

        Otherwise, I stuck with his base, did my own tweaks, and prefer them to my old settings. If I had the option between paying a cent for BBY calibration and having Chad B., I would go with Chad. Because it's free, it won't hurt you one bit. Just keep your old settings stored somewhere, and then compare and contrast at the end of the day. Just don't expect a revelation from the guy since he doesn't touch any of the 10p white balance stuff.

        If I can find my settings he provided me earlier in this thread, I'll compare them to what I changed them to just to show how many/little changes were actually made.
        Last edited by Blzer; 11-20-2012, 11:36 PM.
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        • PhilliesFan13
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          • May 2009
          • 15651

          #2749
          Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

          Originally posted by Blzer
          I tweaked them, but mostly just the white balance settings. My whites never really looked white after the guy left; they just looked far too green. That wasn't being unaccustomed to the new look, either. His measurements were just off.

          Otherwise, I stuck with his base, did my own tweaks, and prefer them to my old settings. If I had the option between paying a cent for BBY calibration and having Chad B., I would go with Chad. Because it's free, it won't hurt you one bit. Just keep your old settings stored somewhere, and then compare and contrast at the end of the day. Just don't expect a revelation from the guy since he doesn't touch any of the 10p white balance stuff.

          If I can find my settings he provided me earlier in this thread, I'll compare them to what I changed them to just to show how many/little changes were actually made.
          Yeah, I would be interested in seeing the comparison. Thanks man.

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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42533

            #2750
            Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

            Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
            Yeah, I would be interested in seeing the comparison. Thanks man.
            Yup. Here's what he originally had for my Samsung PN59D7000...


            HDMI Black Level: Normal (meant for full 0-255 RGB color space, which plasma screens aren't meant to handle)
            Digital Noise Filter: Auto
            MPEG Noise Filter: Auto

            CAL-DAY
            Cell Light: 20
            Contrast: 95
            Brightness: 36
            Sharpness: 22
            Color: 47
            Tint (G/R): 50/50
            Color Space: Native
            White Balance (RGB Offset/Gain): 28, 25, 21, 3, 30, 16

            CAL-NIGHT
            Cell Light: 8
            Contrast: 96
            Brightness: 35
            Sharpness: 25
            Color: 47
            Tint (G/R): 49/51
            Color Space: Native
            White Balance: 25, 25, 26, 8, 35, 14



            Here's what mine are now set at...


            HDMI Black Level: Low (clips to limited 16-239 RGB color spectrum, which is much more suitable)
            Digital Noise Filter: Off
            MPEG Noise Filter: Off

            CAL-DAY (for TV viewing and gaming)
            Cell Light: 20
            Contrast: 95
            Brightness: 55
            Sharpness: 6
            Color: 50
            Tint (G/R): 50/50
            Color Space: Native
            White Balance: 26, 21, 21, 3, 28, 16

            CAL-NIGHT (for watching movies)
            Cell Light: 8
            Contrast: 95
            Brightness: 56
            Sharpness: 0
            Color: 48
            Tint (G/R): 50/50
            Color Space: Native
            White Balance: 25, 25, 26, 8, 27, 15



            Believe me when I say that, as small as some of these changes look, they make big differences between how he left them and how they are now.
            Last edited by Blzer; 11-21-2012, 05:03 AM.
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            • Cabke
              MVP
              • Mar 2006
              • 2607

              #2751
              Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

              Anyone have a list of the TV shows that are gonna be at Best Buy on Friday?
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              • GAMEC0CK2002
                Stayin Alive
                • Aug 2002
                • 10384

                #2752
                Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                Originally posted by Cabke
                Anyone have a list of the TV shows that are gonna be at Best Buy on Friday?

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                • PhilliesFan13
                  Banned
                  • May 2009
                  • 15651

                  #2753
                  Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Yup. Here's what he originally had for my Samsung PN59D7000...


                  HDMI Black Level: Normal (meant for full 0-255 RGB color space, which plasma screens aren't meant to handle)
                  Digital Noise Filter: Auto
                  MPEG Noise Filter: Auto

                  CAL-DAY
                  Cell Light: 20
                  Contrast: 95
                  Brightness: 36
                  Sharpness: 22
                  Color: 47
                  Tint (G/R): 50/50
                  Color Space: Native
                  White Balance (RGB Offset/Gain): 28, 25, 21, 3, 30, 16

                  CAL-NIGHT
                  Cell Light: 8
                  Contrast: 96
                  Brightness: 35
                  Sharpness: 25
                  Color: 47
                  Tint (G/R): 49/51
                  Color Space: Native
                  White Balance: 25, 25, 26, 8, 35, 14



                  Here's what mine are now set at...


                  HDMI Black Level: Low (clips to limited 16-239 RGB color spectrum, which is much more suitable)
                  Digital Noise Filter: Off
                  MPEG Noise Filter: Off

                  CAL-DAY (for TV viewing and gaming)
                  Cell Light: 20
                  Contrast: 95
                  Brightness: 55
                  Sharpness: 6
                  Color: 50
                  Tint (G/R): 50/50
                  Color Space: Native
                  White Balance: 26, 21, 21, 3, 28, 16

                  CAL-NIGHT (for watching movies)
                  Cell Light: 8
                  Contrast: 95
                  Brightness: 56
                  Sharpness: 0
                  Color: 48
                  Tint (G/R): 50/50
                  Color Space: Native
                  White Balance: 25, 25, 26, 8, 27, 15



                  Believe me when I say that, as small as some of these changes look, they make big differences between how he left them and how they are now.
                  I see. Thanks for this. I'm assuming these settings are set under Movie mode and Warm 2?

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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42533

                    #2754
                    Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                    Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                    I see. Thanks for this. I'm assuming these settings are set under Movie mode and Warm 2?
                    Yes. My bad about that haha.
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                    • PhilliesFan13
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                      • May 2009
                      • 15651

                      #2755
                      Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      Yes. My bad about that haha.
                      I also have a Samsung Plasma. I know they aren't the same model number TV's, but I tried these settings on my TV just to see what they look like. It definitely looks like it would take some getting used to watching it this way. Haha. I guess you adjust over time.

                      For whatever reason, I'm not able to change my HDMI Black Level on my TV. I can't even highlight it. It is stuck on normal.

                      Is it better to leave stuff like Gamma, Dynamic Contrast, Black Tone, and Flesh Tone at 0 or default too? That's what I currently have mine set for.

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42533

                        #2756
                        Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                        Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                        I also have a Samsung Plasma. I know they aren't the same model number TV's, but I tried these settings on my TV just to see what they look like. It definitely looks like it would take some getting used to watching it this way. Haha. I guess you adjust over time.

                        For whatever reason, I'm not able to change my HDMI Black Level on my TV. I can't even highlight it. It is stuck on normal.

                        Is it better to leave stuff like Gamma, Dynamic Contrast, Black Tone, and Flesh Tone at 0 or default too? That's what I currently have mine set for.
                        Well, all televisions are different. My settings for my TV may be worse for you than what you had before.

                        Don't know why you can't change the HDMI Black Level. Are you on HDMI? Maybe do it when you fire up your PS3 or something, then it might enable. Might be good to turn on Cinema Smooth when you put in a Blu-ray as well (gives you 1080p/24).

                        And yes, turn off anything that's processing like Dynamic Contrast or any filters. Gamma is adjusted with everything else, so leave it at 0 unless you changed everything by raising/lowering it as well.
                        Last edited by Blzer; 11-21-2012, 03:05 PM.
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                        • PhilliesFan13
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                          • May 2009
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                          #2757
                          Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          Well, all televisions are different. My settings for my TV may be worse for you than what you had before.

                          Don't know why you can't change the HDMI Black Level. Are you on HDMI? Maybe do it when you fire up your PS3 or something, then it might enable. Might be good to turn on Cinema Smooth when you put in a Blu-ray as well (gives you 1080p/24).

                          And yes, turn off anything that's processing like Dynamic Contrast or any filters. Gamma is adjusted with everything else, so leave it at 0 unless you changed everything by raising/lowering it as well.
                          I don't use my PS3 as a Blu-ray player. I have a regular Sony Blu-ray player hooked up to my Plasma with HDMI.

                          Was doing some research, and I found that besides Best Buy, there is actually a place right in my town called Audiolab that has an ISF calibration service. Might give them a call and check it out.

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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42533

                            #2758
                            Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                            Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                            I don't use my PS3 as a Blu-ray player. I have a regular Sony Blu-ray player hooked up to my Plasma with HDMI.

                            Was doing some research, and I found that besides Best Buy, there is actually a place right in my town called Audiolab that has an ISF calibration service. Might give them a call and check it out.
                            Gotcha.

                            Curious, by the way... what is it about the picture that would "take some time to getting used to"? Is it the colors? The white balance? Do the whites look white with those settings? The "darkness" (if your picture was brighter and more vivid)? Is the warmer temperature?
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                            • PhilliesFan13
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                              • May 2009
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                              #2759
                              Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                              Originally posted by Blzer
                              Gotcha.

                              Curious, by the way... what is it about the picture that would "take some time to getting used to"? Is it the colors? The white balance? Do the whites look white with those settings? The "darkness" (if your picture was brighter and more vivid)? Is the warmer temperature?
                              Well, I already had somewhat similar settings for night time movie watching on my Blu-ray player. Movie mode, Warm2, etc.

                              I tried out your day settings which looked much darker for me probably because I had my daytime viewing set on Dynamic. Haha.

                              From what I can see, the whites look pretty good, but the colors seem a little dull, but not bad. But like I said, probably because of having it on Dynamic previously.

                              I definitely want a good picture for watching normal cable television, but I'm more concerned with having a top notch picture for Blu-ray viewing.

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                              • Blzer
                                Resident film pundit
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 42533

                                #2760
                                Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                                Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                                Well, I already had somewhat similar settings for night time movie watching on my Blu-ray player. Movie mode, Warm2, etc.

                                I tried out your day settings which looked much darker for me probably because I had my daytime viewing set on Dynamic. Haha.

                                From what I can see, the whites look pretty good, but the colors seem a little dull, but not bad. But like I said, probably because of having it on Dynamic previously.

                                I definitely want a good picture for watching normal cable television, but I'm more concerned with having a top notch picture for Blu-ray viewing.
                                See, Dynamic is a torcher for plasma screens. I take that thing off instantly. As long as your room isn't too lit, let this picture setting (at least this "dull" look) settle in for about a week, and see if you can get used to it. If not, you will not appreciate a calibrated television. Chad would obviously get the colors as accurate as possible (and bring them out where appropriate), but ISF will also be much more natural than Dynamic.

                                See if you can get used to this. I'd also recommend a DarbeeVision Darblet if you're in the market for a little more pop on your screen, especially for Blu-ray movies. It's mentioned a little more in the Plasma vs. LCD thread (something all of this should probably be in haha), but the price is hiked back up again since the first month or so of release.
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