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  • Jackdog
    Wolverine Soldier
    • Aug 2002
    • 7719

    #406
    re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

    Please lay off the insults. Ignore or report the ones that don't. It will be taken care of. Enjoy the forums.
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    • Fresh Tendrils
      Strike Hard and Fade Away
      • Jul 2002
      • 36131

      #407
      re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

      How did Inglorious Basterds do at the box office?



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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42517

        #408
        re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

        Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
        How did Inglorious Basterds do at the box office?
        $120.5 mil domestically, $313.6 mil worldwide.
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        • Fresh Tendrils
          Strike Hard and Fade Away
          • Jul 2002
          • 36131

          #409
          re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

          So it did pretty good for a movie with subtitles and lots of dialogue.


          I think Avatar's theater experience (at least for the people who saw it in 3D) will be remembered for quite some time. It was an epic visual feast. The whole world was amazing. Simply because the story was "unoriginal" or simple doesn't automatically make it a bad story. I liked the characters and the relationships between them. If other people don't like the movie, that's their prerogative and personally I could care less what they think of me just because I enjoyed it.



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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42517

            #410
            re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

            Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
            I think Avatar's theater experience (at least for the people who saw it in 3D) will be remembered for quite some time. It was an epic visual feast. The whole world was amazing. Simply because the story was "unoriginal" or simple doesn't automatically make it a bad story. I liked the characters and the relationships between them. If other people don't like the movie, that's their prerogative and personally I could care less what they think of me just because I enjoyed it.
            What you say makes sense, but I think what it's more of (at least for me) is that Cameron had an idea in mind that was only waiting on the right technology to not only be successful with the overall feel of the movie and environment, but also in the box office. That idea didn't expand much further in a storytelling sense, and as a result we have since had movies that have really pushed the envelope in the last ten years that are so empowering with their dialogue and plot-twists and the like, that this movie just fell in a book of cliches and didn't develop much further than that, aside from the technology of course.

            And as I said earlier, this will be remembered for a short while... but when the next movie with this kind of technological jump comes out and outshines it, Avatar will be lost in a heap of other movies that were revolutionary in the effects department before it. The reason that movies like The Matrix stand out more is because of the story (which Avatar slightly resembled), and this is indicative because of the majority opinion finding its sequels to be inferior, despite its visual upgrades. Reloaded and Revolutions will be left behind and the original will stay with us for a long time, because it had much more to capture for us than just great effects.

            I still think this was a visually stunning experience and it thus far is probably the most embarking project I've ever seen, and it's just a shame that Cameron's efforts in the director's chair didn't get him an Oscar... but it's water over the bridge now, and in the coming years we will always be riveted with movies that deal with great intellect or great effects. Hell, they may have both. But the movies with great effects need a bit more if they want to stand out for the long haul, and I don't believe that Avatar will.
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            • Fresh Tendrils
              Strike Hard and Fade Away
              • Jul 2002
              • 36131

              #411
              re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

              Maybe you're right, but until then Avatar will be the movie that other movies will be compared to as far as 3D implementation and CGI capabilities go. Personally I don't see that happening very soon, but simply looking at Avatar on a purely visual basis overlooks Cameron's vision and creation of an entire CGI world and characters that felt and looked real and alive. I thought the scope of the project itself was amazing and I don't see a lot of directors (much less studios giving directors the green light) undertaking such a massive creative effort.



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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42517

                #412
                re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                Maybe you're right, but until then Avatar will be the movie that other movies will be compared to as far as 3D implementation and CGI capabilities go. Personally I don't see that happening very soon, but simply looking at Avatar on a purely visual basis overlooks Cameron's vision and creation of an entire CGI world and characters that felt and looked real and alive. I thought the scope of the project itself was amazing and I don't see a lot of directors (much less studios giving directors the green light) undertaking such a massive creative effort.
                Well in that case, its real saving grace is that Cameron has plans for two more sequels. This is yet another chance for him to up the ante with the visuals and still make as compelling of stories, if not more compelling. What he doesn't want however is for people to dislike them as they did for the Matrix sequels (though I personally love Revolutions).

                It should take a while to make them though, maybe four years apart for both of them like the Jurassic Park movies. This world can wait for more Avatar, as this one will be enough to stay on people's minds for a while. I'm the same with a Batman sequel in that I can easily wait two more years because I'm still not over the greatness of TDK.
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                • GAMEC0CK2002
                  Stayin Alive
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 10384

                  #413
                  re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                  Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                  Maybe you're right, but until then Avatar will be the movie that other movies will be compared to as far as 3D implementation and CGI capabilities go. Personally I don't see that happening very soon, but simply looking at Avatar on a purely visual basis overlooks Cameron's vision and creation of an entire CGI world and characters that felt and looked real and alive. I thought the scope of the project itself was amazing and I don't see a lot of directors (much less studios giving directors the green light) undertaking such a massive creative effort.
                  Well he did have a proven track record. So that made it less risky.

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                  • Fresh Tendrils
                    Strike Hard and Fade Away
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 36131

                    #414
                    re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                    Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                    Well he did have a proven track record. So that made it less risky.
                    That's what I was thinking about.



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                    • callmetaternuts
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 7045

                      #415
                      re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                      For those that saw the 3D version in theaters and have the Blu Ray version now, is it a letdown to see it this way?
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                      • 42
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 8801

                        #416
                        re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                        James Cameron, King of DVD Sales

                        Well, so much for those fears that no one would want to see "Avatar" in 2D. James Cameron's "Avatar," which is already the most financially successful film of all time (it brought in over $2.7 billion at theaters worldwide) has now broken almost every record known to man in the home video market, too. "Avatar" sold 2.7 million high-definition Blu-ray discs -- along with 4 million standard definition DVDs -- in the first four days it was available.

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                        • Fresh Tendrils
                          Strike Hard and Fade Away
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 36131

                          #417
                          re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                          Wow.



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                          • Beantown
                            #DoYourJob
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 31523

                            #418
                            re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                            Holy crap.

                            James Cameron is a successful, successful man.

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                            • sportsdude
                              Be Massive
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5001

                              #419
                              re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                              Originally posted by callmetaternuts
                              For those that saw the 3D version in theaters and have the Blu Ray version now, is it a letdown to see it this way?
                              no doubt I would prefer it in 3D, but the Blu Ray version is really well done. The first couple minutes it was strange not seeing it in 3D but once the movie got going I completely forgot about it.
                              Lux y Veritas

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                              • GAMEC0CK2002
                                Stayin Alive
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 10384

                                #420
                                re: James Cameron's "Avatar"

                                Not too shabby for a re-hashed plot.

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