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Creed II was very well done. I was so pleased with how they told the Drago story.SpoilerBefore Adonis's first fight against Wheeler, I really thought there was going to be a "6th Sense-esqe" storyline with Rocky how he just came out of nowhere giving Donnie his instructions and inspiration. Wouldn't have been a bad idea for a storyline either, with the final scene Donnie visiting Rocky's and Adrian's gravesite to reveal he was his angel in his corner like Mickey was.
This one suffered from massive pacing issues. The fights were unrealistic, but I didn't care because they were so entertaining. The direction wasn't as sharp as Coogler's, either. Creed's motivations weren't ever crystal clear either, neither were his supporting troops'. It did have neat plot development, albeit somewhat unoriginal, and once again nearly every side character was a very compelling piece of the overall film. They once again nailed the Bianca character.
However, I do get to say that this is one film of a very select few whose trailer is very good at marketing the film without giving much of anything away at all. For that, it gets bonus points. You can freely watch its trailer without feeling spoiled.
As for your spoiler:
SpoilerJust like you, the first moment Stallone showed up, it was kind of in a: "Is he a ghost?" fashion. But when he lifted his hood and interacted with him while others were in the room, I removed that notion from my mind immediately. Rocky had far, far too many interactions with others to even make this close to plausible.
However at the end of the film when he kind of handed Adonis the reins, saying: "It's your time now," and they zoomed out from his backside, I sort of thought that was his sendoff. When they reached the grave site, I had assumed as you said, that Apollo and Rocky would be next to each other.
I didn't like that for a moment, because that meant Rocky wouldn't have rekindled his relationship with his son and would not have met his granddaughter. However, once he did, I then said: "If he dies at any point after this, it would be alright with me."
So, my guess is that if there is a Creed III, when it begins, Rocky will have already passed. There is nothing else Rocky himself has to offer to Adonis or this franchise, as much as we love him. It would then become a true standalone, and not just a spin-off.
By the way, I don't see much of a difference between Stallone's performance in this film versus its predecessor. So what, no best supporting actor nomination this time? He wasn't even on the Academy's shortlist. Why so much praise in one film, and not the other? I know I can think of one scene in Creed that should trump all the other ones in either film, but he is still nuanced as ever in this film. I just want to disclose that I thought he was great in both films. I just didn't know where the Oscar nom came from last time though, especially since he wasn't even considered this time around.Last edited by Blzer; 03-14-2019, 01:12 PM.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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I saw it, and liked it quite a bit. I didn't love it, but I didn't love the first Creed film either (mostly because I didn't like the way they portrayed the protagonist; other than that, it's good and I watch it quite regularly on Blu-ray).
This one suffered from massive pacing issues. The fights were unrealistic, but I didn't care because they were so entertaining. The direction wasn't as sharp as Coogler's, either. Creed's motivations weren't ever crystal clear either, neither were his supporting troops'. It did have neat plot development, albeit somewhat unoriginal, and once again nearly every side character was a very compelling piece of the overall film. They once again nailed the Bianca character.
However, I do get to say that this is one film of a very select few whose trailer is very good at marketing the film without giving much of anything away at all. For that, it gets bonus points. You can freely watch its trailer without feeling spoiled.
As for your spoiler:
SpoilerJust like you, the first moment Stallone showed up, it was kind of in a: "Is he a ghost?" fashion. But when he lifted his hood and interacted with him while others were in the room, I removed that notion from my mind immediately. Rocky had far, far too many interactions with others to even make this close to plausible.
However at the end of the film when he kind of handed Adonis the reins, saying: "It's your time now," and they zoomed out from his backside, I sort of thought that was his sendoff. When they reached the grave site, I had assumed as you said, that Apollo and Rocky would be next to each other.
I didn't like that for a moment, because that meant Rocky wouldn't have rekindled his relationship with his son and would not have met his granddaughter. However, once he did, I then said: "If he dies at any point after this, it would be alright with me."
So, my guess is that if there is a Creed III, when it begins, Rocky will have already passed. There is nothing else Rocky himself has to offer to Adonis or this franchise, as much as we love him. It would then become a true standalone, and not just a spin-off.
By the way, I don't see much of a difference between Stallone's performance in this film versus its predecessor. So what, no best supporting actor nomination this time? He wasn't even on the Academy's shortlist. Why so much praise in one film, and not the other? I know I can think of one scene in Creed that should trump all the other ones in either film, but he is still nuanced as ever in this film. I just want to disclose that I thought he was great in both films. I just didn't know where the Oscar nom came from last time though, especially since he wasn't even considered this time around.
Creed III has to be a standalone and he has to have his own challenge and ending instead of the manufactured continuation of the Rocky storyline. I have an interesting idea. In a "Godfather IIesque" (sorry for the continued use of esque" style, intertwine Adonis's new challenge with flashbacks to Apollo's climb to legendary status. When we first met Apollo, his legend was already established, but how? He had risen to the top and ran out of challenges, until he tangled with the unknown Southpaw from Philly. Take the story to where Adonis attains that same legendary status with a more Adonis friendly ending.Last edited by Hammerhunker; 03-18-2019, 07:53 AM.Comment
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Those are some interesting thoughts, for sure. I currently don't have any suggestions for what he should be like for a third film or what it should be about, but I made my stance clear on how Rocky should be written into a third film.
You probably missed it a few years ago, but when you have the time (because there is a lot to read), there is a nice back-and-forth exchange that JayBee and I had about Creed when it first came out. I suggested some rewrites to the film (something that I'd still ponder to this day) that doesn't confuse me with not only the characters' motives, but also with my attachments to them.
https://forums.operationsports.com/f...post2047952386
By the way, there I also mention/show that I, too, liked Rocky V. So you and I might be the only two people in the world that like that movie, haha.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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My wife and 2 of our teenage kids went to see APOLLO 11 last night. Enjoyed it!! It's a documentary of the moon landing - it's like watching news clips and a few of your friends piecing together old home movies from a bunch of angles everything leading up to the launch, the spaceflight, the moon landing (VERY COOL!) and then the return trip home. If you're into fast-paced stuff, then this might not be for you. It's gotten great reviews and as a history buff, I loved it.STEELERS INDIANS CELTICS
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Death at a Funeral (original version). If you've never seen this, you owe it to yourself. And don't bother with the 2010 remake. Alan Tudyk (Steve the Pirate from Dodgeball) and Andy Nyman steal the show in this one imo. Nyman is apparently going to be in the new Hanna series, which is odd because of his very Monty Python type presentation in this movie. Not a star studded cast but it just works. Peter Dinklage makes a great addition as well.
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The Mule. Good premise, but pretty bad movie. Fell short in so many ways. Bradley Cooper and Michael Pena were overkill castings in their roles as DEA agents. Man, did Andy Garcia get bloated! I think he's surpassed Laurence Fishburne. It's a bit sad to see Clint looking this frail. He pulled it off in Gran Torino, but not here. Admire his stamina and drive, but maybe it's time to stay behind the lens.Comment
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A Wrinkle in Time, Wow what a terrible movie. It was so bad i stopped it with about 15 mins left. I've never read the book, so i don't have any nostalgia towards this, but who ever directed and wrote this movie should take a long look in the mirror.
With the budget this film had, the special effects and named actors are top notch, why did no one stop to read the actual script? The movie is confusing, it seems very jarring. I understand what they were going off, but it doesn't come off as making much sense. It felt a like a lot of it was random stuff thrown together.
I went on Wikipedia and did a little reading on the actual book and it's story and it sounds interesting. I see Disney completely removed the religious undertones the book has. The book seemed like a cool adventure of these children fighting "The Darkness" while looking for their Father while the movie just seemed like a bunch of random stuff thrown together.
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Aquaman
Great fun, it was certainly formulaic but I found the execution to be excellent, and very good casting. A very satisfying watch!GO 'HAWKS!
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On another note:
SpoilerI can't say I was underwhelmed by anything from a twist perspective because I don't think movies are required to have shocking reveals in any capacity, but when the dad-train bit was shown, I was sitting there like: "Don't I already know this information?" I thought this was to be inferred from the previous two movies long ago. I hope M. Night wasn't holding onto that card, thinking he was going to pull a fast one on us after all this years.
I also knew something was going to happen the first time David touched Sarah Paulson's character. They went that whole time not doing it, so I knew that would pay off somehow. I just didn't know how.
A lot of people are disappointed that David died, or how he died. I'm willing to go with it. There was a larger purpose served in the film anyway, and it works more with him dead than alive. The idea that a simple puddle could kill him was always the point since Unbreakable, so I thought it served its point. I really liked Kevin's sendoff, though. Anya Taylor-Joy's character's relationship with him helped make that one very okay for me.Last edited by Blzer; 04-05-2019, 01:05 PM.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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