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  • Heelfan71
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    • Jul 2002
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    #16
    Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

    Originally posted by bgeno
    I feel similarly.

    Two things drive down prices on consumer goods: Government Regulation and Competition.

    Government is certainly not going to get involved, but the competition that is sparking up is TERRIFIC for the consumer. Quality will go up and price will go down in order to beat the opponent... it's that simple.



    That being said, I'm a Mac guy and can CERTAINLY justify the higher prices. No viruses, much simpler OS to use, many great features/add-ons, etc.

    And Apple machines seem to be effective computers for much longer than PCs. It could just be that you don't have to worry about a virus or trojan destroying the machine or it could be the general build, but I've seen plenty of people go through a few PCs while my Mac remains standing... and running SO well.

    Quality for sure. It's the way they are built. LIke comparing a BMW to a Ford IMO.
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    • MC Fatigue
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      • Feb 2006
      • 4150

      #17
      Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

      Originally posted by Renegade44
      IDK Man after using a Mac for the last 6 months, I will never use a windows computer again unless I have to at work or something. With that being said these computers are better that windows based comps in my opinion and they should be more expensive.
      They're not that much better, from my experience, though. In fact, I wouldn't say they better at all - I'd say they're different and have different strengths and weaknesses. My dad has been using them his entire computer life, and he hates the things - they've given him nothing but trouble. However, he's got an XP machine at home just so he has something, and he finds it far better for his needs.

      The price difference isn't really justified.

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      • Bornindamecca
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        • Jul 2007
        • 10919

        #18
        Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

        Price difference is totally justified if you use audio/video programs. I think PCs are a little underrated regarding art programs, but if you're not gaming, then I'd DEFINITELY suggest getting a mac. I'm going to pick up a PC laptop for some gaming myself, but I'm not doing any work on it.
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        • Leon
          An Old Trafford
          • Mar 2003
          • 4981

          #19
          Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

          Originally posted by Timmay
          The price difference isn't really justified.
          You can't blame 'em since Apple is your sole source for a Mac. Windows has dozens of manufacturers plus people who can DIY the PC so naturally, a PC can be bought at a cheaper price.

          In Apple's view, you're buying software/hardware all built from one source to ensure quality/reliability with some high-tech materials used to boot. On the PC side, people can buy the parts themselves and assemble them (much cheaper than pre-built) or get pre-built PCs at lower prices compared to Macs.

          In the end, both will always have detractors. It doesn't mean both aren't equally great machines with their own pros and cons. As for me, I love my PC for gaming and as a streaming hub. I love my Macbook for everything else.
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          • judgejudy
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            • Feb 2006
            • 1377

            #20
            Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

            Originally posted by Timmay
            I guess the truth hurts.

            Their computers are ridiculously overpriced. I'd actually probably try their OS if it weren't for that; they do have some great things to offer. But I can build myself a top line PC from scratch for a fraction of the cost of a bottom of the line Mac.
            this is what's always bothered me about mac's. especially when you consider the fact that since they have intel based macs now, there are...."ways" of getting osx to run on a pc, so for the price of the cheapest mac, I could build a super pc, install osx on it, and get the best of both worlds.

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            • mgoblue
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              • Jul 2002
              • 25477

              #21
              Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

              Originally posted by judgejudy
              this is what's always bothered me about mac's. especially when you consider the fact that since they have intel based macs now, there are...."ways" of getting osx to run on a pc, so for the price of the cheapest mac, I could build a super pc, install osx on it, and get the best of both worlds.
              I'd love the legal ability to run OSX on a non-Apple computer, but that'll never happen. Apple uses OSX to sell hardware and if they started selling OSX for other hardware they'd lose tons of money. Right now they've got a gun to consumer's heads saying "You want something other than Windows? Pay our prices for hardware".
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              • Heelfan71
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                • Jul 2002
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                #22
                Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                Originally posted by judgejudy
                this is what's always bothered me about mac's. especially when you consider the fact that since they have intel based macs now, there are...."ways" of getting osx to run on a pc, so for the price of the cheapest mac, I could build a super pc, install osx on it, and get the best of both worlds.
                you can run windows on a Mac too....... funny thing is Windows performs better on a Mac.
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                • bgeno
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                  • Jun 2003
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                  #23
                  Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                  Originally posted by Timmay
                  They're not that much better, from my experience, though. In fact, I wouldn't say they better at all - I'd say they're different and have different strengths and weaknesses. My dad has been using them his entire computer life, and he hates the things - they've given him nothing but trouble. However, he's got an XP machine at home just so he has something, and he finds it far better for his needs.

                  The price difference isn't really justified.
                  I'd say that's pretty subjective. I agree that the prices are too high, but when you weigh the pros and cons, for many, the price is very justified.
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                  • DTX3
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                    • Jun 2003
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                    #24
                    Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                    Originally posted by Heelfan71
                    Ironically those PC commercials were made on a Mac. Seriously.
                    Owned.

                    Originally posted by Heelfan71
                    yep, I would pay extra for a mac. WEll worth it. Quality means alot to me and the extra $$ is because of that.
                    Totally agree. It was hard for me to shell out the money for a MBP, but after a week with it, I'm glad I spent the extra cash.
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                    • pfunk880
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                      • Jul 2004
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                      #25
                      Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                      Originally posted by mgoblue
                      Right now they've got a gun to consumer's heads saying "You want something other than Windows? Pay our prices for hardware".
                      Unless you want Linux.
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                      • judgejudy
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1377

                        #26
                        Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                        Originally posted by pfunk880
                        Unless you want Linux.
                        i dual boot windows and linux just because compiz is so effing sweet! haha
                        Last edited by judgejudy; 07-17-2009, 06:57 PM.

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                        • NINJAK2
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 6185

                          #27
                          Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                          This should settle the debate

                          EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                          • mgoblue
                            Go Wings!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 25477

                            #28
                            Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                            Originally posted by NINJAK2
                            This should settle the debate

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLbJ8YPHwXM
                            That was damn cool!

                            I like linux (a big reason I like OSX a lot as well), just don't really have a use for it at home....

                            I also get stabby whenever I see the Microsoft or Apple commercials. They're both irritating (but good ads for what they want to do).

                            I'll also say that if you have a PC with some sort of antivirus software you'll be fine. I'm using Vista and don't get viruses, don't get BSOD's, etc. Though this is assuming you're not a complete moron who lets any program run on their computer...Clicking "OK" to everything is a bad idea.
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                            • Altimus
                              Chelsea, Assemble!
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 27283

                              #29
                              Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                              Originally posted by mgoblue
                              That was damn cool!

                              I like linux (a big reason I like OSX a lot as well), just don't really have a use for it at home....

                              I also get stabby whenever I see the Microsoft or Apple commercials. They're both irritating (but good ads for what they want to do).

                              I'll also say that if you have a PC with some sort of antivirus software you'll be fine. I'm using Vista and don't get viruses, don't get BSOD's, etc. Though this is assuming you're not a complete moron who lets any program run on their computer...Clicking "OK" to everything is a bad idea.
                              You'll be fine for the most part on any computer as long as you don't go looking for trouble.

                              As far as the commercials, the PC commercials annoy me a lot more than the Mac ones. Mac are at least some what funny, these aren't and the people are annoying.

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                              • luv_mist
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                                • May 2004
                                • 9596

                                #30
                                Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                                It almost seems like the people buying those PCs on that video joint were knowledgeable that they were being recorded for a M$ commercial and were acting the part a bit. It's kind of irritating a bit. The Mac vs. PC joint was funny. It seemed more or less like a poke at them. If Apple had more software compatibility like M$, then it would definitely grasp a bigger piece of the pie.

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