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  • pfunk880
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    • Jul 2004
    • 4452

    #76
    Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

    Originally posted by DTX3
    One thing we all can agree on is Mac OS + Windows > Windows
    But how many people really need both? Especially when you are going to need to spend additional money for a Windows license on top of the already premium price for a Mac.
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    • MC Fatigue
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      • Feb 2006
      • 4150

      #77
      Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

      Originally posted by jmood88
      You're just being a sheep, when you have a Mac in front of you price doesn't matter.
      To be fair - your second statement is pretty sheepish too.

      The OS wars just get so stupid. Anyone I've talked to who works with computers has generally agreed, different OS's aren't better or worse for the most part - they're just different: one will be better here and there, and worse here and there. In the end; it's what you need from it. I've already said that a few times, though, so I'm just going in circles here.

      Sure there are failures like Millenium or Vista, but MS has done great with XP and 7. They're great systems that has some great features; just as Linux and MAC OS's... It just depends what the user wants and needs; you pick the OS that is better in the areas you personally need.
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      • RoyalBoyle78
        Aka."Footballforever"
        • May 2003
        • 23918

        #78
        Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

        Why does everyone bring up price, yes mac's are a little on the end end of price. Let's just get real for a minute, we are really comparing OS in reality. People say that mac's cost a lot, well you get what you pay for, a great machine. You can't compare a freaking netbook to a mac and say or look it;s cheaper and it has Vista and say see look at that mac it's $1,100. That's not what you compare, thats not even on a level to compare. Most adorable PC's with windows are cheaply made and are running Vista home, which IMO is crap. So Mac's are expensive because the hardware is better then most low end PC's of course.
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        • snepp
          We'll waste him too.
          • Apr 2003
          • 10007

          #79
          Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

          Originally posted by FootballForever
          Why does everyone bring up price
          Perhaps because it's a perfectly valid comparison point that no amount of fayboyism can make go away?

          Just off the top of my head.
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          • jmood88
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            • Jul 2003
            • 34639

            #80
            Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

            Originally posted by FootballForever
            Why does everyone bring up price, yes mac's are a little on the end end of price. Let's just get real for a minute, we are really comparing OS in reality. People say that mac's cost a lot, well you get what you pay for, a great machine. You can't compare a freaking netbook to a mac and say or look it;s cheaper and it has Vista and say see look at that mac it's $1,100. That's not what you compare, thats not even on a level to compare. Most adorable PC's with windows are cheaply made and are running Vista home, which IMO is crap. So Mac's are expensive because the hardware is better then most low end PC's of course.
            No, they are expensive because Apple can get away with this "we use premium parts" excuse for why their stuff is so expensive and people eat it up. There are so many different ways you can get a PC from having it prebuilt or building it yourself that Macs cost more because of their parts makes no sense whatsoever.
            Originally posted by Blzer
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            • pfunk880
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 4452

              #81
              Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

              Originally posted by FootballForever
              Why does everyone bring up price, yes mac's are a little on the end end of price. Let's just get real for a minute, we are really comparing OS in reality. People say that mac's cost a lot, well you get what you pay for, a great machine. You can't compare a freaking netbook to a mac and say or look it;s cheaper and it has Vista and say see look at that mac it's $1,100. That's not what you compare, thats not even on a level to compare. Most adorable PC's with windows are cheaply made and are running Vista home, which IMO is crap. So Mac's are expensive because the hardware is better then most low end PC's of course.
              Who said anything in here about comparing a netbook to a Mac?
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              • mgoblue
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                • Jul 2002
                • 25477

                #82
                Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                Originally posted by pfunk880
                Who said anything in here about comparing a netbook to a Mac?
                Exactly...all along we've been comparing similar machines and it's well known that the Mac version is much more expensive.

                I find it kinda laughable that people are saying "who gives a hell about how much it costs" while we're in the middle of the worst economic downturn since the great depression...

                I could afford a Mac, I just personally don't think it's worth the added price. A lot of you do, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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                • Heelfan71
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 19940

                  #83
                  Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                  Originally posted by jmood88
                  No, they are expensive because Apple can get away with this "we use premium parts" excuse for why their stuff is so expensive and people eat it up. There are so many different ways you can get a PC from having it prebuilt or building it yourself that Macs cost more because of their parts makes no sense whatsoever.
                  they cost more not because of the parts so much but the build quality. Of course most people will never know until they own one.

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                  • jmood88
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #84
                    Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                    My mom has almost exclusively used Macs for a long time and I've used them but they aren't anything special.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                    • MC Fatigue
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                      • Feb 2006
                      • 4150

                      #85
                      Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                      Originally posted by jmood88
                      My mom has almost exclusively used Macs for a long time and I've used them but they aren't anything special.
                      My dad has used one pretty much since he began using computers (because of where he works, that's what they gave him) and he hates it. I had thought about getting one, and he actually begged me not to waste my money on it.

                      He much prefers the XP laptop he has for home use.

                      I've actually never had a single good thing to say about my dad's computers either. I've checked them all out, and they've all been pretty poor. The one he currently has now crashes all the time, and if he tries to open an attachment, it freezes and he has to restart and then view it again to get it to work (for every attachment).

                      Every MAC he's owned has also always had memory issues. He'd have some word processor open, and to open another program and suddenly there's no memory to open the application.

                      They've tried fixing it, but it's hopeless.

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                      • HealyMonster
                        Titans Era has begun.
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 5992

                        #86
                        Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                        Originally posted by Timmay
                        My dad has used one pretty much since he began using computers (because of where he works, that's what they gave him) and he hates it. I had thought about getting one, and he actually begged me not to waste my money on it.

                        He much prefers the XP laptop he has for home use.

                        I've actually never had a single good thing to say about my dad's computers either. I've checked them all out, and they've all been pretty poor. The one he currently has now crashes all the time, and if he tries to open an attachment, it freezes and he has to restart and then view it again to get it to work (for every attachment).

                        Every MAC he's owned has also always had memory issues. He'd have some word processor open, and to open another program and suddenly there's no memory to open the application.

                        They've tried fixing it, but it's hopeless.

                        Your the first person I have ever hear of say anything like that about a MAc. Yet nearly every person I have ever spoken to has encountered what you said on a PC, myself included so I dont know what your point is.

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                        • MC Fatigue
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                          • Feb 2006
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                          #87
                          Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                          Originally posted by Renegade44
                          myself included so I dont know what your point is.
                          My point was pretty clear - my dad dislikes MAC's, as they've all been rather crappy, and he's been using them for at least 20 years now.

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                          • HealyMonster
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                            • Aug 2002
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                            #88
                            Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                            Originally posted by Timmay
                            My point was pretty clear - my dad dislikes MAC's, as they've all been rather crappy, and he's been using them for at least 20 years now.
                            no, lol, I understand that your dad doesnt like macs. my sister, aunt, uncle, friends dislikes PC's and have consistently had the same encounter with PCs that your father has had. This is what im saying, whats your point? cause your dad dislikes Macs, they suck in general?

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                            • mgoblue
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 25477

                              #89
                              Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                              Originally posted by Renegade44
                              no, lol, I understand that your dad doesnt like macs. my sister, aunt, uncle, friends dislikes PC's and have consistently had the same encounter with PCs that your father has had. This is what im saying, whats your point? cause your dad dislikes Macs, they suck in general?
                              What's your point? just because those people dislike PC's, they all suck?
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                              • MC Fatigue
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                                • Feb 2006
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                                #90
                                Re: Apple can't stand the MS heat

                                Originally posted by Renegade44
                                This is what im saying, whats your point? cause your dad dislikes Macs, they suck in general?
                                No, I never said MAC's suck. I said my dad has had nothing but problems with them, and dislikes them; that was my point. It was in response to mood's post.

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