*** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

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I think the Smoke Monster is simply evil personified. Letting it off the Island would mean the end of the world because evil would take over and run amok?

We won't get anymore answers about Mother or probably anything pertaining to Jacob's past but I'm okay with that. There wouldn't be a great answer to those questions anyway.

[dossier]

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If Mother wasn't the smoke monster, how was she able to destroy the village? Could there be more than one smoke monster?

The last episode opened up a lot of new questions:

- Is Mother the smoke monster?
- Is there more than one smoke monster?
- How did Mother find out about the special ability of the light tunnel?
- Why was MiB able to see his real mother but Jacob couldn't (or was the real mother simply the smoke monster)?
- We know Jacob's main job is to protect the Island, so why did he leave it unguarded to "touch" the candidates?
- Mother said she made it so MiB and Jacob could never hurt each other (we know they can't kill each other from last season) so how do you explain the scene where Jacob basically kicked MiB's *** by punching him in the face at least 5 times? I would consider MiB to be hurt from those punches.

I also wonder why can't Richard be the main person to protect the Island? He doesn't age, can't die, and has been on the Island for hundreds of years.

The first bolded part I believe to be the exact case. Another example of the smoke monster doing this is with Michael and Hurley, infact didn't Michael lead Hurley to a bunch of people in a similar fashion?

And I guess they can hurt each other but not kill each other, or once the mother died that ability was lost.

Also it's worth noting that both the MIB and the smoke monster have the same intention, so maybe it's kinda like Venoms suit where it makes you stronger but unstable.

[dossier]

Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

I think the Smoke Monster is simply evil personified. Letting it off the Island would mean the end of the world because evil would take over and run amok?

We won't get anymore answers about Mother or probably anything pertaining to Jacob's past but I'm okay with that. There wouldn't be a great answer to those questions anyway.

yeah exactly, people are too caught up in the mother story when Lost is about the Losties, always has and always will be. Great episode

O and BTW, anybody else reminded of Lord of the Flies when the kids were hunting. There are alot of parallels.

[soltrain]

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yeah exactly, people are too caught up in the mother story when Lost is about the Losties, always has and always will be. Great episode

O and BTW, anybody else reminded of Lord of the Flies when the kids were hunting. There are alot of parallels.

I think they showed Mother just to show that there was someone before Jacob - and someone before Mother, and someone before that...etc.

[techhokies]

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yeah exactly, people are too caught up in the mother story when Lost is about the Losties, always has and always will be.

Yea, but can't you say that they brought that on themselves. If this show was only about the losties, then why not show stuff that pertains to the losties. They could have shown why Jacob was making the early lists for the others, why Jacob chose these losties, what the rules are that the MIB is following, etc... Instead, they show us why the MIB became what he is, the mother being crazy(bad parenting being a big theme of the show, so that might relate), and how Jacob and MIB were brought to the island.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all of those answers, but you can't dedicate an episode to that, and when you get complaints, turn around and say that the show is only about the losties, which I saw them do in an interview. The only parallel they drew to the losties was with Adam and Eve, and that has no relevance to the losties with the life or death situation they are in right now. With them saying that they will only answer the questions that the characters themselves would wonder about, I guarantee you Jack is wondering more about the 'rules' than who Adam and Eve were in the caves.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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yeah exactly, people are too caught up in the mother story when Lost is about the Losties, always has and always will be. Great episode

How could people not be caught up in the Mother story when she played such a big role in an episode that was the 3rd last of the series. Darlton can't expect to introduce a new character when the series is almost over and not expect the viewers to want to know what her deal is.

I feel like they made a mistake by making this the 3rd to last episode. This episode would have worked better earlier in the season. It's too late in the show to open up a new set of questions and that's what the episode did.

[Picci]

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Starting to get the feeling that LOST will never end. Sure our characters will go but with years of storytelling about people coming to the island, this has a chance of becoming future episodes. Call it LOST - The Beginning, then LOST-The Middle Ages. We could see untold stories of our worlds history in 2000 years. Hey, didn't Amelia Earhart disappear in the Pacific?

[soltrain]

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Starting to get the feeling that LOST will never end. Sure our characters will go but with years of storytelling about people coming to the island, this has a chance of becoming future episodes. Call it LOST - The Beginning, then LOST-The Middle Ages. We could see untold stories of our worlds history in 2000 years. Hey, didn't Amelia Earhart disappear in the Pacific?

It could very well become a Star Trek type thing.

Charlie (Desmond's son), Aaron and Yi Jeon can be "LOST: The New Class"

[HealyMonster]

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I just had a thought while in the shower and Im going to throw it out there while the iron is hot.

Few things hit me at once.

"Everyone starts fresh when they get to the island""Whatever they did before the island doesn't matter"

OK we take that and then look at what the candidates did "since they have been on the island"

There is Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sawyer left from the original Losties.

Jack, while the leader and overall "good guy", but he set of the Nuke and killed Juliete, Sawyer set off the bomb last week and killed Sun and Jin.

That leaves Hurley and Kate, I am just thinking that while on the island, the "leaders" At one point it was Jack, sawyer took ove rfor a while, they made decisions that had an effect on the island and on candidates( sawyer killed sun and Jin in a round about way). I am thinking if this has something specific to do with who the "replacement is"

Truthfully, I dont know what this might mean, Im just thinking how, out of the remaining people left, they will choose the replacement without killing everyone off except the replacement. It took me right to those "moments" where the right decision might or might not have been made.

[DrJones]

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I just had a thought while in the shower and Im going to throw it out there while the iron is hot.

Few things hit me at once.

"Everyone starts fresh when they get to the island""Whatever they did before the island doesn't matter"

OK we take that and then look at what the candidates did "since they have been on the island"

There is Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sawyer left from the original Losties.

Jack, while the leader and overall "good guy", but he set of the Nuke and killed Juliete, Sawyer set off the bomb last week and killed Sun and Jin.

That leaves Hurley and Kate, I am just thinking that while on the island, the "leaders" At one point it was Jack, sawyer took ove rfor a while, they made decisions that had an effect on the island and on candidates( sawyer killed sun and Jin in a round about way). I am thinking if this has something specific to do with who the "replacement is"

Truthfully, I dont know what this might mean, Im just thinking how, out of the remaining people left, they will choose the replacement without killing everyone off except the replacement. It took me right to those "moments" where the right decision might or might not have been made.

Kate isn't a candidate.

[p_rushing]

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I don't know what to think.

MIB wasn't seeing smokey because Jacob couldn't see their mother. Everyone can see smokey.

Smokey may be controllable. Maybe the mother was able to control it and used it to destroy the village.

Does the jug of liquid do anything or is it just symbolic? Didn't MIB have it this season? Can they make more?

How will a candidate be chosen now? Jacob is dead and cannot pass it on to them.



Maybe this is what happened.

The mother knew about the light and what it did. She was able to kill people, lie, and manipulate. She wasn't like Jacob. Unless there is something that tells you everything about the island, she would only know about the light if she went in there herself. Maybe she killed the person she replaced like MIB killed her. MIB in turn became her. She said something to MIB before saying thank you, but I didn't catch what it was. Maybe her act of choosing the replacements was her redemption.

She chooses the kids, one becomes Jacob(protector) the other MIB. She was MIB before and managed to kill Jacob in the same way MIB did. She then realizes that she is still unable to leave the island. Her last act is to choose the islands protector. In choosing the protector, she also chooses the next MIB.

Now in present time, Hurley sees dead people who aren't MIB, just like little MIB. Jack is similar to Jacob. If it holds true to the past, Hurley will kill Flocke, Jack will become Jacob, and Hurley will become MIB.

[Steel5]

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I don't know what to think.

MIB wasn't seeing smokey because Jacob couldn't see their mother. Everyone can see smokey.

Smokey may be controllable. Maybe the mother was able to control it and used it to destroy the village.

Does the jug of liquid do anything or is it just symbolic? Didn't MIB have it this season? Can they make more?

How will a candidate be chosen now? Jacob is dead and cannot pass it on to them.



Maybe this is what happened.

The mother knew about the light and what it did. She was able to kill people, lie, and manipulate. She wasn't like Jacob. Unless there is something that tells you everything about the island, she would only know about the light if she went in there herself. Maybe she killed the person she replaced like MIB killed her. MIB in turn became her. She said something to MIB before saying thank you, but I didn't catch what it was. Maybe her act of choosing the replacements was her redemption.

She chooses the kids, one becomes Jacob(protector) the other MIB. She was MIB before and managed to kill Jacob in the same way MIB did. She then realizes that she is still unable to leave the island. Her last act is to choose the islands protector. In choosing the protector, she also chooses the next MIB.

Now in present time, Hurley sees dead people who aren't MIB, just like little MIB. Jack is similar to Jacob. If it holds true to the past, Hurley will kill Flocke, Jack will become Jacob, and Hurley will become MIB.

So a question that comes to mind for me: Does anybody else know these secrets besides mother? Is she the only one that truly knew/knows about the island and what it is/whats its purpose?

[dossier]

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Yea, but can't you say that they brought that on themselves. If this show was only about the losties, then why not show stuff that pertains to the losties. They could have shown why Jacob was making the early lists for the others, why Jacob chose these losties, what the rules are that the MIB is following, etc... Instead, they show us why the MIB became what he is, the mother being crazy(bad parenting being a big theme of the show, so that might relate), and how Jacob and MIB were brought to the island.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all of those answers, but you can't dedicate an episode to that, and when you get complaints, turn around and say that the show is only about the losties, which I saw them do in an interview. The only parallel they drew to the losties was with Adam and Eve, and that has no relevance to the losties with the life or death situation they are in right now. With them saying that they will only answer the questions that the characters themselves would wonder about, I guarantee you Jack is wondering more about the 'rules' than who Adam and Eve were in the caves.

The point of the episode was to show how someone gets chosen to be a replacement, what kind of knowledge a protector has, and how the smoke monster came to be about. That all has to do with the losties.

Your just nitpicking small scenes like Adam and Eve when the entire episode was dedicated to explaining how things happen, not why.

[dossier]

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I was re-watching the first season of lost and I noticed a bunch of interesting tidbits:
-the first time we hear the smoke monster in the forest knocking down trees, the camera switches immediately to Locke
-it starts to rain and locke raises his arms and smiles, then the smoke monster starts toppling trees again
-desmond might not be responsible for the crash of oceanic flight 815 since they had lost radio contact for hours and were thousands of miles ofcourse
-at the end of episode three locke stares down michael and walt while creppy music is playing
-in episode four locke gets pissed off at work, while staring down his boss a noise that sounds exactly like the smoke monster rings around
-Locke is the first lostie to actually see the smoke monster
-when christian walks into the forest, he vanishes into the forrest and locke appears out of the forest

Theories:
-the writers always knew that locke would become the smoke monster
-there are two protectors (MIB and Jacob) think of it as the MIB is a rapid dog and jacob is the owner with a leash
-the dark area where smokie patrols the most is where the light is

These are more easter eggs than anything revolutionary, but interesting nonetheless

[USF11]

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I was re-watching the first season of lost and I noticed a bunch of interesting tidbits:
-the first time we hear the smoke monster in the forest knocking down trees, the camera switches immediately to Locke
-it starts to rain and locke raises his arms and smiles, then the smoke monster starts toppling trees again
-desmond might not be responsible for the crash of oceanic flight 815 since they had lost radio contact for hours and were thousands of miles ofcourse
-at the end of episode three locke stares down michael and walt while creppy music is playing
-in episode four locke gets pissed off at work, while staring down his boss a noise that sounds exactly like the smoke monster rings around
-Locke is the first lostie to actually see the smoke monster
-when christian walks into the forest, he vanishes into the forrest and locke appears out of the forest

Theories:
-the writers always knew that locke would become the smoke monster
-there are two protectors (MIB and Jacob) think of it as the MIB is a rapid dog and jacob is the owner with a leash
-the dark area where smokie patrols the most is where the light is

These are more easter eggs than anything revolutionary, but interesting nonetheless

Yeah I noticed the same things rewatching season 1.

Also, when Locke tells Walt, "You want to hear a secret", they goto to a black screen leaving the dialog up to interpretation.

We are suppose to think Locke tells Walt he couldnt walk before the crash or this island is special. But I think something else was said that will be revealed in the finale.