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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #541
    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

    Originally posted by NovaStar
    But the tagline for the series is that anyone can die at anytime. It seems the only ones dying are the characters that people like, or what the viewing audience would deem the good guys, for the most part. The Lannisters are getting away with murder literally, and the story to this point is not addressing or balancing the equity of outcomes.

    At this point in the story (end of season one) there should at least be one dead Lannister. To me, the perfect opportunity for that was when Lady Stark addressed Jaime, she did not necessarily have to kill him but he should have answered to a mother's vengeance.
    It's not a Stark for a Lannister. For the Starks to take the Lannister approach would work against their entire character as a family.
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    • Steel5
      MVP
      • Feb 2010
      • 1768

      #542
      Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

      Originally posted by Xavier12
      After an excellent first season surely everyone is going to read the rest of the books?
      Yeah I am. I'm about halfway through the first book right now, and there is no way I can resist moving on to the sequels when I finish this one.

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      • NovaStar
        Banned
        • Aug 2002
        • 3561

        #543
        Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

        Originally posted by CMH
        It's not a Stark for a Lannister. For the Starks to take the Lannister approach would work against their entire character as a family.
        Ok. I see you guys point.

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #544
          Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

          Originally posted by NovaStar
          Ok. I see you guys point.
          I think that your emotion however is exactly what they want. It's infuriating that this is happening. The Starks are good people and die while the Lannisters are evil and just win, win, win.

          They have the money, the looks, the charm, the power. It's frustrating. But that's what makes the Starks the tragic heroes in this tale.
          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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          • mudtiger
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 3223

            #545
            Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

            Life ain't fair, neither is the series. This isn't a story where good guys never make mistakes or never get hurt. Trust me though, there is an ebb and flow. Things can turn for better or worse in an instant and some plots take some time to develop. Stick with it. It is an outstanding story.

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            • DrJones
              All Star
              • Mar 2003
              • 9108

              #546
              Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

              Originally posted by NovaStar
              I still say the storytelling is uneven when it comes to all that the Starks are sufferering when compared to what the Lannisters are not, for example. When the Starks capture the Lannisters favored son, and he proceeds to tell Lady Stark that he attempted to kill her son by pushing him out of the window, then he goes on to make fun of Ned being beheaded. At this point she should have cut off his sword arm or killed him! that would have been consistent with everything else that has been going on. When she dropped the rock and walked away, the story dropped the ball.
              It's not so much the Starks' honour that's keeping Jaime alive. You've got to remember that as far as Catelyn knows, the Lannisters are holding both Sansa and Arya hostage. As much as she'd like to kill Jaime, doing so would result in the certain deaths of both her daughters. Jaime's a potential bargaining chip; that's why he's still breathing.

              Even before the Lannisters discovered that Jaime had been captured, Tywin and Cersei didn't want Ned executed, just removed as a threat. If Ned had been allowed to join the Night's Watch, all-out war with the the Stark forces of the North likely would've been averted. Joffrey was acting on his own when he had Ned killed.
              Originally posted by Thrash13
              Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
              Originally posted by slickdtc
              DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
              Originally posted by Kipnis22
              yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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              • HealyMonster
                Titans Era has begun.
                • Aug 2002
                • 5992

                #547
                Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                Originally posted by DrJones
                It's not so much the Starks' honour that's keeping Jaime alive. You've got to remember that as far as Catelyn knows, the Lannisters are holding both Sansa and Arya hostage. As much as she'd like to kill Jaime, doing so would result in the certain deaths of both her daughters. Jaime's a potential bargaining chip; that's why he's still breathing.

                Even before the Lannisters discovered that Jaime had been captured, Tywin and Cersei didn't want Ned executed, just removed as a threat. If Ned had been allowed to join the Night's Watch, all-out war with the the Stark forces of the North likely would've been averted. Joffrey was acting on his own when he had Ned killed.

                Your certainly right. If they killed Jaime then they have nothing and potentially get the 2 daughters killed. Right now, the power lies in how valuable Jamie is, and hes worthless dead.

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                • sven
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 6021

                  #548
                  Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                  Season 2 CASTING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

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                  Last edited by sven; 06-23-2011, 02:33 PM.

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                  • Steel5
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1768

                    #549
                    Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                    Originally posted by sven
                    Season 2 CASTING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

                    Spoiler
                    HOT

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                    • Stu
                      All Star
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 7924

                      #550
                      Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                      Originally posted by sven
                      Season 2 CASTING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

                      Spoiler
                      Wow that's a perfect fit looks wise for that character.
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                      • sven
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6021

                        #551
                        Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                        Originally posted by Stu
                        Wow that's a perfect fit looks wise for that character.
                        Yeah some people say she is too old but she can easily look younger than her age (29) and the character will get aged up a few years like all the others.

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                        • MachoMyers
                          Old School
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7670

                          #552
                          Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                          A bit old but Dicaprio still plays a 24 year old in every film he is in so I'm sure the creators will straighten it all out.

                          Margaery Tyrell rocks.

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                          • RockinDaMike
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 9091

                            #553
                            Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                            Top Ten Deaths this season: http://www.gotpunkd.com/a-game-of-th...top-ten-kills/

                            1,2,3 are spot on for me.
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                            • SlimKibbles
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                              • Apr 2004
                              • 7276

                              #554
                              Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                              Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                              Top Ten Deaths this season: http://www.gotpunkd.com/a-game-of-th...top-ten-kills/

                              1,2,3 are spot on for me.
                              A couple of those when I saw them while watching whatever episode they were in made me LOL. The one with the horse cracked me up because it was so over-the-top. When Drogo ripped out that guy's throat with the tongue still attached and then casually tossed it aside made me kind of laugh.
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                              • EnigmaNemesis
                                Animal Liberation
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 12216

                                #555
                                Re: Game of Thrones (HBO Sunday nights @ 9PM EST)

                                Originally posted by SlimKibbles
                                A couple of those when I saw them while watching whatever episode they were in made me LOL. The one with the horse cracked me up because it was so over-the-top. When Drogo ripped out that guy's throat with the tongue still attached and then casually tossed it aside made me kind of laugh.
                                I felt bad for the horse... but the throat rip, that was Mortal Kombat awesome!
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