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  • Fresh Tendrils
    Strike Hard and Fade Away
    • Jul 2002
    • 36131

    #211
    Re: True Blood Season 3

    Originally posted by ODogg
    It was Pam, not Peggy, wasn't it? Yeah I have no issue with that. If they're going to go in that direction then they should do more scenes like that IMO.
    You have no issue because it was two girls?



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    • allBthere
      All Star
      • Jan 2008
      • 5847

      #212
      Re: True Blood Season 3

      Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
      You have no issue because it was two girls?
      I'm not getting comments like this...

      I'm a straight guy, most straight guys like watching good sex scenes, and like seeing 2 girls go at it too whether it be some fantasy or just because of the female form or whatever.

      What exactly are you getting at here? Are you saying that we SHOULD have issue with 2 girls? Are you saying that we SHOULD enjoy watching the 2 dudes kiss?

      There is nothing wrong with a straight guy being turned off when presented with 2 dudes making out, just like there is nothing wrong with enjoying sex scenes, naked women, or 2 women making out. There is NOTHING to apologize for.

      And I'll reiterate again, it even seemed out of place for the show in terms of story, and even out of character for lafayette, but maybe that's the point.

      My original point is that it's kind of thrown in there just to do it and be hip. I also brought up the demographic of viewers out of curiosity the ties into the majority of this post. I actually go to gay pride in toronto and have a couple of gay friends, BUT in no way does me not liking to watch 2 dudes make out say anything about my character negatively or make me old-fashioned.

      assuming most viewers are straight men and women, in my experience, most of them don't enjoy watching stuff like that.

      It actually wasn't THAT big of deal to me, but it requires more articulation to discuss it and therefore takes over a thread easier.
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      • Fresh Tendrils
        Strike Hard and Fade Away
        • Jul 2002
        • 36131

        #213
        Re: True Blood Season 3

        I'm getting at that he is basing his uneasiness about LaFayette and Jesus kissing on what he considers the norm. I'm not saying he should feel comfortable, but two girls going down on each other isn't exactly "the norm" either. I just think getting upset and refusing to watch the show because of that scene is a little ridiculous especially within the context of the show itself. From the 3 seasons I've watched, the show flaunts its sexuality and has no shame in its homosexual overtones. Anybody who has followed the show really shouldn't be surprised and you have to be half expecting this to happen, but maybe that's just me. To be honest, I thought that scene was tame considering shadows were masking a lot of the kissing and especially in comparison with all the other sexual encounters.

        Personally, I don't see how anybody could not see this relationship coming a mile away.



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        • Cebby
          Banned
          • Apr 2005
          • 22327

          #214
          Re: True Blood Season 3

          Originally posted by allBthere
          And I'll reiterate again, it even seemed out of place for the show in terms of story, and even out of character for lafayette, but maybe that's the point.
          It's out of character for a homosexual character to kiss another attractive homosexual man?

          Really?

          I'm getting at that he is basing his uneasiness about LaFayette and Jesus kissing on what he considers the norm. I'm not saying he should feel comfortable, but two girls going down on each other isn't exactly "the norm" either. I just think getting upset and refusing to watch the show because of that scene is a little ridiculous especially within the context of the show itself. From the 3 seasons I've watched, the show flaunts its sexuality and has no shame in its homosexual overtones. Anybody who has followed the show really shouldn't be surprised and you have to be half expecting this to happen, but maybe that's just me. To be honest, I thought that scene was tame considering shadows were masking a lot of the kissing and especially in comparison with all the other sexual encounters.

          Personally, I don't see how anybody could not see this relationship coming a mile away.
          Exactly

          True Blood is sex. I think every female character has had either a nude or sex scene. True Blood:Sex as Dexter:Profanity. It doesn't matter the situation, both shows will use their go to in excess.

          The show has a lesbian vampire, a cross dressing drug dealer, and an implied homosexual high court in Mississippi.

          If a male/male kissing sequence bothers you, I don't know how you went through 2.5 years of the show.

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          • allBthere
            All Star
            • Jan 2008
            • 5847

            #215
            Re: True Blood Season 3

            Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
            I'm getting at that he is basing his uneasiness about LaFayette and Jesus kissing on what he considers the norm. I'm not saying he should feel comfortable, but two girls going down on each other isn't exactly "the norm" either. I just think getting upset and refusing to watch the show because of that scene is a little ridiculous especially within the context of the show itself. From the 3 seasons I've watched, the show flaunts its sexuality and has no shame in its homosexual overtones. Anybody who has followed the show really shouldn't be surprised and you have to be half expecting this to happen, but maybe that's just me. To be honest, I thought that scene was tame considering shadows were masking a lot of the kissing and especially in comparison with all the other sexual encounters.

            Personally, I don't see how anybody could not see this relationship coming a mile away.
            I agree... I knew it was coming from the first meeting at the care centre. Unlike other relationships in the show though, I don't see how it's going to connect into the larger story, and I can't even make a good guess.

            I think maybe he convinces lafayette to get out of the drug dealing game, which will only have an impact with the king killing that glasses judge-type vampire and selling V with no hiding it. IN that case lafayette's life could get in danger and his new partner's. Either way, I'm not seeing a how it affects the story in the way many of the show's relationships do concerning central characters.

            That scene was on the tame side (except for some dialogue), but nobody said they are going to stop watching so far. I'm glad it was tame, I wouldn't want a heavy gay sex scene because again, I don't want to watch that. I also don't think that it needs to be 'represented' equally or anything like that in the name of PC'ness. (not saying you are saying that either).

            - on another relationship I had guesses about crystal, but after that last show I have no idea and I'm a bit worried she's going to be some new weird creature that might oversaturate the season with crazy 'beings'. I'm also wondering if sookie is going to turn out to not even be human or something. I hope it doesn't get too ridiculous.
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            • allBthere
              All Star
              • Jan 2008
              • 5847

              #216
              Re: True Blood Season 3

              Originally posted by Cebby
              It's out of character for a homosexual character to kiss another attractive homosexual man?

              Really?



              Exactly

              True Blood is sex. I think every female character has had either a nude or sex scene. True Blood:Sex as Dexter:Profanity. It doesn't matter the situation, both shows will use their go to in excess.

              The show has a lesbian vampire, a cross dressing drug dealer, and an implied homosexual high court in Mississippi.

              If a male/male kissing sequence bothers you, I don't know how you went through 2.5 years of the show.
              I thought i said their relationship was out of character. Is that what I said? Did I say him kissing another dude was out of character? ...don't think so.

              Lafayette is a hard-hitting, crude, down and dirty, drug dealer who does hard-core web-cam strip shows on the internet for money. So when I said CHARACTER I wasn't thinking "homosexual" ... His character with that guy is shy and submissive which is what I meant by out of character, without even considering they are a bit of an 'odd-couple'. AND again, I said maybe that's the point. Is that clear now?

              And the rest of your post is just not understanding what my point was.
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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
                • 36131

                #217
                Re: True Blood Season 3

                I don't think it needs to be represented equally because really there's only one (somewhat) major homosexual character on the show, but to be surprised/putoff when said character becomes intimate is kind of silly I think.

                Maybe I misunderstood ODogg, but I got the impression that he would stop watching the show if they continued showing these types of scenes. Perhaps he meant progressing the sexuality of the relationship.

                As far as the relationship goes, we haven't really seen LaFayette interact with another man in that situation before, so (for me at least) its hard to really gauge how he would act. I'm aware of LaFayette's gruff exterior and apparent personality (ie: AIDS burger is one of my favorite scenes in any show, ever), but I wouldn't expect him to act the same way in a romantic situation.

                If you want to talk about things that really don't tie in with the storyline, there are several things this season that just seem kind of "filler" for now and actually Jason is involved in most of them. I'm not sure how Crystal, the whole cop thing, or the QB1 interactions are going to tie into anything. Crystal seems to be a shifter and could possibly be doing the same thing Tommy is doing, but that's all I can really think of that makes sense to me. I would prefer her not to be a werewolf or a were"whatever" because, like you, I hope the show doesn't start getting too heavy into the different types of creatures.

                Also, what is up with Tara's mom? The last time we saw her she was throwing herself at the reverend, right?



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                • ODogg
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 37953

                  #218
                  Re: True Blood Season 3

                  allBthere seems to be doing a much better job of espousing what I was trying to say in all of my posts in regards to my position on this issue. I don't have a problem at all with gay people, I just don't care to see men doing it on screen. I don't have much problems with the kissing but if it goes beyond that then I do have issues with it if it becomes gratuitous. As for the Pam scene, I said it was ok yes and to me it was ok (in fact I thought it was pretty good actually, lol).

                  And what I meant by the norm isn't "straight" but rather what most guys that I know of consider ok and from the people that I know male-female and female-female is the norm. I do have one friend who is pretty religious who finds female-female just as bad as guy-guy but I honestly don't think that is anything but his religious/morality views, not what he considers to be "hot" or not.

                  As for me quitting the show because of it, now that I think about it, so long as the shows storylines are good I will continue to watch. I'll just have to bury my eyes in my girlfriends chest when/if it gets too bad in regards to the whole gay thing. I mean after all, I used to watch The L word and other shows like it so I'm tolerable, but if the show is going to be going that route, then the story had better to continue to be good and compelling because I'm not sitting through that stuff if it's not.
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                  • bgeno
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4321

                    #219
                    Re: True Blood Season 3

                    Originally posted by soltrain
                    That really bothers people that much? SMH.
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                    Originally posted by allBthere
                    I thought i said their relationship was out of character. Is that what I said? Did I say him kissing another dude was out of character? ...don't think so.

                    Lafayette is a hard-hitting, crude, down and dirty, drug dealer who does hard-core web-cam strip shows on the internet for money. So when I said CHARACTER I wasn't thinking "homosexual" ... His character with that guy is shy and submissive which is what I meant by out of character, without even considering they are a bit of an 'odd-couple'. AND again, I said maybe that's the point. Is that clear now?
                    And that's why the last thing we saw with those two was
                    Spoiler


                    Originally posted by ODogg
                    And what I meant by the norm isn't "straight" but rather what most guys that I know of consider ok and from the people that I know male-female and female-female is the norm. I do have one friend who is pretty religious who finds female-female just as bad as guy-guy but I honestly don't think that is anything but his religious/morality views, not what he considers to be "hot" or not.
                    I think your word choice is just really poor here. Instead of saying "norm," I think you mean "hot." To most guys, watching a dude/girl or a girl/girl scene is hot, but a male/male scene is not hot to most guys.

                    But think about the girls who watch the show who have had to watch a few lesbian scenes. Do you think they're as uncomfortable as you are to watch the male/male scenes?
                    Last edited by bgeno; 07-29-2010, 04:31 PM.
                    Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
                    How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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                    • Fresh Tendrils
                      Strike Hard and Fade Away
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 36131

                      #220
                      Re: True Blood Season 3

                      So, I was watching Firefly last night and in the episode Shindig when Inara is picking her suitors, the first suitor video she watches is the same guy who played Steve Newlin.



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                      • soltrain
                        The Batman
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 6863

                        #221
                        Re: True Blood Season 3

                        Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                        So, I was watching Firefly last night and in the episode Shindig when Inara is picking her suitors, the first suitor video she watches is the same guy who played Steve Newlin.
                        Steve Newlin was in that Amanda Bynes show. What I Like About You.
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                        • Jonesy
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 5382

                          #222
                          Re: True Blood Season 3

                          Originally posted by allBthere
                          I'm not getting comments like this...

                          I'm a straight guy, most straight guys like watching good sex scenes, and like seeing 2 girls go at it too whether it be some fantasy or just because of the female form or whatever.

                          What exactly are you getting at here? Are you saying that we SHOULD have issue with 2 girls? Are you saying that we SHOULD enjoy watching the 2 dudes kiss?

                          There is nothing wrong with a straight guy being turned off when presented with 2 dudes making out, just like there is nothing wrong with enjoying sex scenes, naked women, or 2 women making out. There is NOTHING to apologize for.

                          And I'll reiterate again, it even seemed out of place for the show in terms of story, and even out of character for lafayette, but maybe that's the point.

                          My original point is that it's kind of thrown in there just to do it and be hip. I also brought up the demographic of viewers out of curiosity the ties into the majority of this post. I actually go to gay pride in toronto and have a couple of gay friends, BUT in no way does me not liking to watch 2 dudes make out say anything about my character negatively or make me old-fashioned.

                          assuming most viewers are straight men and women, in my experience, most of them don't enjoy watching stuff like that.

                          It actually wasn't THAT big of deal to me, but it requires more articulation to discuss it and therefore takes over a thread easier.
                          I agree with this post. Straight guys preferring not to see two dudes making out or having sex should not come as shock to anyone nor should we have to apologize for it. I won't stop watching the show because of it but it doesn't mean i want to see more of it just for the sake of it.

                          With that being said this ep kicked ***. I agree with the FT when he says he actually found Tara less annoying this episode and it was pretty brutal when she smashed Franklin with that mace. Would that kill a Vampire or would he heal eventually?

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #223
                            Re: True Blood Season 3

                            Soooo yeah.

                            The freight train didn't stop this week.

                            Off topic, but Tara is smoking hot outside of the show. Jesus. They did a little segment on Comic Con, and the cast was there in San Diego... Tara had me

                            My Gooood

                            Don't know how they manage to make her look so ugly in the show.

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                            • soltrain
                              The Batman
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6863

                              #224
                              Re: True Blood Season 3

                              Good episode last night. I really can't wait to see what Eric's plan is and how he will execute it.
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                              • Fresh Tendrils
                                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 36131

                                #225
                                Re: True Blood Season 3

                                Jason: I never thought I was smart enough to get depressed.


                                This season is awesome.



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