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  • Altimus
    Chelsea, Assemble!
    • Nov 2004
    • 27283

    #211
    Re: Plasma or LCD?

    Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
    When gaming, it is always better to turn of any processing features as it adds LAG to the signal.
    Originally posted by Giants4Natic
    This above
    Thanks guys.

    Quick question, I assume Edge Enhancement is something I should leave off as well?

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    • CaptainZombie
      Brains
      • Jul 2003
      • 37851

      #212
      Re: Plasma or LCD?

      Originally posted by Altimus
      Thanks guys.

      Quick question, I assume Edge Enhancement is something I should leave off as well?
      Yes, from what I'm reading it's best to turn it off.
      HDMovie Room

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      • sportdan30
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 2010

        #213
        Re: Plasma or LCD?

        When are these LCD-LEDs 55" hdtvs going to come down in price? I saw a Vizio that I love at Walmart for $1298. Still a little too pricey though.

        Do you guys think there is that much of a difference in picture quality between a LCD and LCD-LED? Thinness doesn't bother me.
        PSN: sportdan30
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        • Giants4Natic
          Banned
          • Oct 2010
          • 2475

          #214
          Re: Plasma or LCD?

          Originally posted by Altimus
          Thanks guys.

          Quick question, I assume Edge Enhancement is something I should leave off as well?
          Yes turn it off since that is an image processor which would contribute to input lag.

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          • Giants4Natic
            Banned
            • Oct 2010
            • 2475

            #215
            Re: Plasma or LCD?

            Originally posted by sportdan30
            When are these LCD-LEDs 55" hdtvs going to come down in price? I saw a Vizio that I love at Walmart for $1298. Still a little too pricey though.

            Do you guys think there is that much of a difference in picture quality between a LCD and LCD-LED? Thinness doesn't bother me.

            LED's are better but only if you get a local dimming LED which I think Vizio has. Do not get any edge led.

            If it comes down between edge led or lcd then get an lcd.

            Remember that LED's are LCD tv's but the diff is that LCD use full bulbs which are long therefore you do not see any crop circles on dark scenes.

            LED's are small bulbs that are suppose to enhance the color accuracy when in dark scenes and improve blacks which is the key think to representing accurate colors

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            • Giants4Natic
              Banned
              • Oct 2010
              • 2475

              #216
              Re: Plasma or LCD?

              Originally posted by sportdan30
              When are these LCD-LEDs 55" hdtvs going to come down in price? I saw a Vizio that I love at Walmart for $1298. Still a little too pricey though.

              Do you guys think there is that much of a difference in picture quality between a LCD and LCD-LED? Thinness doesn't bother me.

              If you want a great LCD then this one will blow your mind.

              If you can find it then go for it. Is from last years B model LCD series but it kicks the butt of any of this years LCD's

              http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN52B7...1341880&sr=8-1

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              • Altimus
                Chelsea, Assemble!
                • Nov 2004
                • 27283

                #217
                Re: Plasma or LCD?

                One more question, I finally got my new LED TV tuned to where I want it. Then I pop in Halo Reach and notice terrible motion blur. Run to Google, type in Halo Reach motion blur and a get a ton of results. On the two previous LCD TVs I've seen Halo Reach played, I've notice either very little to no motion blur. Popped in Blacks Ops on the LED TV and it's perfect. Is there any reason why this LED TV makes the motion blur in Halo more obvious? The 120hz to 60hz difference?

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                • Giants4Natic
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2475

                  #218
                  Re: Plasma or LCD?

                  Originally posted by Altimus
                  One more question, I finally got my new LED TV tuned to where I want it. Then I pop in Halo Reach and notice terrible motion blur. Run to Google, type in Halo Reach motion blur and a get a ton of results. On the two previous LCD TVs I've seen Halo Reach played, I've notice either very little to no motion blur. Popped in Blacks Ops on the LED TV and it's perfect. Is there any reason why this LED TV makes the motion blur in Halo more obvious? The 120hz to 60hz difference?
                  I this case I suggest you turn Motion BLur ON but put it on low.

                  Does your tv have game mode?

                  Try Motion Blur ON but low

                  To test for input lag

                  Pop in Madden if you have it. Put it on All Madden and go to practice mode

                  Kick off and see if the kick meter which should be faster, hit when you press the kick button. If there is bad input lag you will have issues hitting the mark.

                  If you have zero issues after a few tries then leave it at low with Tru Motion On

                  If you get lag to where is hard for you to get the kick to go on command then turn it off

                  True Motion is suppose to help reduce the blur

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                  • Altimus
                    Chelsea, Assemble!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 27283

                    #219
                    Re: Plasma or LCD?

                    Tried Madden, noticed no difference in input between off, user, low, and high. I've now tried:

                    NBA 2K11
                    PES 2011
                    Madden 2011
                    NFS Hot Pursuit
                    Black Ops
                    Mass Effect 2.

                    All those game I have 0 issues. No lag, looks great, everything is fine. In Reach I just don't understand. There is no difference between TruMotion off, low or high. I can also adjust it manually for user and change settings between blur and judder.

                    The motion blur is there no matter what. Don't want to return the TV just for one game so I guess I'll have to live with it.

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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #220
                      Re: Plasma or LCD?

                      Originally posted by Altimus
                      Tried Madden, noticed no difference in input between off, user, low, and high. I've now tried:

                      NBA 2K11
                      PES 2011
                      Madden 2011
                      NFS Hot Pursuit
                      Black Ops
                      Mass Effect 2.

                      All those game I have 0 issues. No lag, looks great, everything is fine. In Reach I just don't understand. There is no difference between TruMotion off, low or high. I can also adjust it manually for user and change settings between blur and judder.

                      The motion blur is there no matter what. Don't want to return the TV just for one game so I guess I'll have to live with it.
                      Could it be synching &/or tearing your seeing altimus?

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                      • Jukeman
                        Showtime
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10955

                        #221
                        Re: Plasma or LCD?

                        My 42" Panny (Plasma)

                        Just arrived (yay I finally joined the HD club; choops will last another 2-3 years)

                        Any suggestions for settings for the first 100 hours?

                        For now I have everything at default with contrast at 0 (0-100 scale)

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                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42515

                          #222
                          Re: Plasma or LCD?

                          Might as well tone down everything if you want to "break it in," going with sharpness as well. Also try and avoid watching anything that has a static image, including sports tickers, or black-barred shows/movies. So in that case, looks like you'll be watching a lot of PBS HD.

                          But just remember, it's the white that burns in not the black. I don't know what that has to do with anything, but basically if you watch a dark movie like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, then I don't think having the horizontal black bars will affect anything very much.
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                          • GAMEC0CK2002
                            Stayin Alive
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 10384

                            #223
                            Re: Plasma or LCD?

                            Originally posted by Jukeman
                            My 42" Panny (Plasma)

                            Just arrived (yay I finally joined the HD club; choops will last another 2-3 years)

                            Any suggestions for settings for the first 100 hours?

                            For now I have everything at default with contrast at 0 (0-100 scale)
                            Congrats on the purchase.

                            Few things:
                            Break-in should be about 1 1/2 months

                            1. Lower the contrast to something between 50-55 (make sure it's not in vivid mode)
                            2. Make sure your viewing takes up the entire screen (change the aspect ratio to do this)
                            3. Static images are not good. Static DVD/blu ray menu screens are also not good.

                            A little image retention is to be expected...the phosphors have to age. IR is temporary.

                            If you do this, you should be good to go. Enjoy.

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                            • Jukeman
                              Showtime
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10955

                              #224
                              Re: Plasma or LCD?

                              Thanks,

                              Should I put the picture setting to "standard" of "cinema"

                              It was off of "vivid mode by default

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                              • GAMEC0CK2002
                                Stayin Alive
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 10384

                                #225
                                Re: Plasma or LCD?

                                Originally posted by Jukeman
                                Thanks,

                                Should I put the picture setting to "standard" of "cinema"

                                It was off of "vivid mode by default
                                Whichever one you prefer. Just make sure the contrast is between 50-55.

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