LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

I don't go there any more.

LOL, neither do I , it will such the excitement for any new TV you get, stay away from AVS at all costs.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

LOL, neither do I , it will such the excitement for any new TV you get, stay away from AVS at all costs.

Agreed ... that damn forum kept me from buying ANY TV the past 2 years ... you look at something you think you like, then Google about it, then they come up, then you read the anal puckering, then you no longer want the TV, then your head is spinning.

Some help from anyone if you have any?

I want a nice HDTV, I want one bad ... I am heavily leaning towards the PN50C8000 Samsung, since it is a phenomenal picture and does good 3D and much cheaper than most other 3D displays. My only concern is burn-in and image retention (what is that anyway?).

But my head is still spinning. I want something that has little to no input lag for gaming, which I know is hard for a HDTV. Since I am used to gaming on a Dell Ultrasharp for years, I am afraid I will notice the input lag ... but I also played on a newer Sony 3DTV (800 or 810 cant remember), and I did not notice a difference in The Show (in game mode), even though AVS "claims" they are "so so" for input lag. I swear these people are cyborgs.

I am also considering the Vizio XVT423SV, since the price per performance is fantastic. And the picture quality is almost on par with a Panny or Sammy plasma. Cnet reviews claim the 1080p/24 is not too hot on it... do I need that feature? And what is so hot about that feature over just watching things with the "soap opera effect (which I like)" in 240hz?

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

Anyway to have to different TV settings for Games and Blu-Rays if using a PS3? I want to have different TV settings for when I play games and for when I watch Blu-Rays, but I'm using a PS3 as my player so it's only one input on the TV. Any way to do this? It's a Samsung LCD.

Use Game Mode (TV) for Gaming & Use Movie Mode (TV) for BR.

[mjb2124]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

Run the break-in images as much & as often as possible. Are using a SD CARD/USB Drive or a DVD?

USB drive. That seemed like the easiest way to go. They've been running for about an hour now.

[mjb2124]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

I want a nice HDTV, I want one bad ... I am heavily leaning towards the PN50C8000 Samsung, since it is a phenomenal picture and does good 3D and much cheaper than most other 3D displays. My only concern is burn-in and image retention (what is that anyway?).

I have the 63" version of that set. I was worried last night that I'd have some burn-in or IR while watching the Steeler game (the score sits in the upper left hand corner). After the game, there was nothing.

This TV has a pixel shift feature that shifts the pixels either 2 or 4 rows every 1-4 minutes. I set it aggressively at 4 every 1 minute. Some people claim that you can see the pixels shift, but I was not able to. I've turned that off now that I'm running the break-in slides as I don't want the pixels shifting while it's breaking-in.

I've only had the TV for one night and this morning, but it has a phenomenal 2D picture. I haven't had a chance to watch 3D yet, but by all accounts, the picture is also very good.

Like you said, this set is a bit cheaper than other 3D models. I was between this and the 65" VT25 by Panasonic. Considering they both are supposed to be great sets, I couldn't justify the extra $$$ for the VT25. Most sites have this set around $3100 while the VT25 is around $4000. That's a big jump in price.

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

Use Game Mode (TV) for Gaming & Use Movie Mode (TV) for BR.

The Samsung plasmas have these options? I'm just wondering, I'm not huge in the plasma screen market so I don't know what kinds of options they have. I just know that I have a Panasonic Vieja that's kind of one of the older HDTV sets around and it's very limited to its picture settings, there's no real way to do ISF calibration or anything unfortunately.

And this is actually really jumping around so I'm just wondering, but if you have one of those Harmony universal remotes is it possible to change picture/audio settings like with the touch of a button, in a sense? Because every time with my Samsung LCD and HTiB I'll have to go to my menu and turn off game mode, then go to my sub-woofer dB volume and increase it by seven (personal preference for games). Things like this would be much easier with a remote that can do it all with one easy access feature, and I didn't know if Harmony actually provides this for you.

[fishepa]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

Use Game Mode (TV) for Gaming & Use Movie Mode (TV) for BR.

Does game mode have it's own set of settings though? For instance, I wanted to play the Dead Space demo last night, the brightness was so low that I had to turn it up on the TV, but the brightness would be too high for movies. I don't want to have to manually change the settings back and forth.

[EnigmaNemesis]

I have the 63" version of that set. I was worried last night that I'd have some burn-in or IR while watching the Steeler game (the score sits in the upper left hand corner). After the game, there was nothing.

This TV has a pixel shift feature that shifts the pixels either 2 or 4 rows every 1-4 minutes. I set it aggressively at 4 every 1 minute. Some people claim that you can see the pixels shift, but I was not able to. I've turned that off now that I'm running the break-in slides as I don't want the pixels shifting while it's breaking-in.

I've only had the TV for one night and this morning, but it has a phenomenal 2D picture. I haven't had a chance to watch 3D yet, but by all accounts, the picture is also very good.

Like you said, this set is a bit cheaper than other 3D models. I was between this and the 65" VT25 by Panasonic. Considering they both are supposed to be great sets, I couldn't justify the extra $$$ for the VT25. Most sites have this set around $3100 while the VT25 is around $4000. That's a big jump in price.

Thanks for your feedback.

If you can keep us updated with impressions and such after you break it in, that would be fantastic. Especially how responsive gaming is, etc.


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[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

Does game mode have it's own set of settings though? For instance, I wanted to play the Dead Space demo last night, the brightness was so low that I had to turn it up on the TV, but the brightness would be too high for movies. I don't want to have to manually change the settings back and forth.

Yes, my Samsung LCD has completely different picture settings options based on whether I have Game Mode on or off and I adjusted them accordingly. That's pretty much the only reason I use it, other than it supposedly being more responsive for gaming.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

The Samsung plasmas have these options? I'm just wondering, I'm not huge in the plasma screen market so I don't know what kinds of options they have. I just know that I have a Panasonic Vieja that's kind of one of the older HDTV sets around and it's very limited to its picture settings, there's no real way to do ISF calibration or anything unfortunately.

And this is actually really jumping around so I'm just wondering, but if you have one of those Harmony universal remotes is it possible to change picture/audio settings like with the touch of a button, in a sense? Because every time with my Samsung LCD and HTiB I'll have to go to my menu and turn off game mode, then go to my sub-woofer dB volume and increase it by seven (personal preference for games). Things like this would be much easier with a remote that can do it all with one easy access feature, and I didn't know if Harmony actually provides this for you.

I believe the Harmony won't allow for that, but if the HTIB allows for Independent Input adjustment, then you can adjust from the HTIB for each input

[mjb2124]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

Thanks for your feedback.

If you can keep us updated with impressions and such after you break it in, that would be fantastic. Especially how responsive gaming is, etc.


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I checked out COD: Black Ops just to give it a test run about 30min ago. I had no issue with response. I even tried it in 3D and had no issues with response time on that either. I'll have to give The Show a try as that should be a very good barometer. BTW, I did not put the TV into Game Mode while playing COD. Game Mode has it's own settings and I'm not going to mess much with that until it's broken in. I figure it shouldn't take long to break in if I just let it run at night while I'm asleep.

Unfortunately I won't have much time with the TV until Monday (holiday party at my in-laws tonight, party here tomorrow, traveling to another party on Sunday).

[EnigmaNemesis]

I checked out COD: Black Ops just to give it a test run about 30min ago. I had no issue with response. I even tried it in 3D and had no issues with response time on that either. I'll have to give The Show a try as that should be a very good barometer. BTW, I did not put the TV into Game Mode while playing COD. Game Mode has it's own settings and I'm not going to mess much with that until it's broken in. I figure it shouldn't take long to break in if I just let it run at night while I'm asleep.

Unfortunately I won't have much time with the TV until Monday (holiday party at my in-laws tonight, party here tomorrow, traveling to another party on Sunday).

No problem. Thanks for your initial impressions. Looking forward to more when you you get the chance and everything set up. Have a great holiday.


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[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

Yup, I use game mode on my plasma and my LCD, looks great and I see no lag.

[onetonmartin]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

Good afternoon Fellas,

I was looking into buying a 55-65" 8000 series Samsung LED to go in the living room. My current TV is a 2.5 year old 58" 1080p Samsung Plasma.

Since I watch a lot of sports and play a lot of Madden, would this move be a bad idea? I hear LEDs can turn pretty choppy when handling motion of a sporting event.

One of the main reasons I'm interested in LED is because I like the soap opera effect it puts on movies and tv shows. (I'm in the minority, I know)

How does/would Madden 11 look on an LED? (compared to plasma)
How do sports look on an LED? (compared to plasma)

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,
Marty

[tripwire]

Re: Plasma or LCD?

I checked out COD: Black Ops just to give it a test run about 30min ago. I had no issue with response. I even tried it in 3D and had no issues with response time on that either. I'll have to give The Show a try as that should be a very good barometer. BTW, I did not put the TV into Game Mode while playing COD. Game Mode has it's own settings and I'm not going to mess much with that until it's broken in. I figure it shouldn't take long to break in if I just let it run at night while I'm asleep.

Unfortunately I won't have much time with the TV until Monday (holiday party at my in-laws tonight, party here tomorrow, traveling to another party on Sunday).

Wanted to give you a thumbs up on that purchase. Cleveland Plasma receives great feedback at AVS, as does Chad B. Nice pick up.

Enjoy it