Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

[Majingir]

Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

They mentioned it in an interview several weeks ago. There's cameramen everywhere so it gets to the point where if a cameraman is randomly hanging around in an area, nobody is suspicious. They film basically every conversation possible.

[l3ulvl]

Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

They mentioned it in an interview several weeks ago. There's cameramen everywhere so it gets to the point where if a cameraman is randomly hanging around in an area, nobody is suspicious. They film basically every conversation possible.

Even conversations between trees?

[Majingir]

Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

Even conversations between trees?

They get multiple camera shots of conversations too, so if people see a cameraman off in the distance or just near a tree or bush or something shooting them, they aren't supposed to care.

[p_rushing]

Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

Tony finally screwed up with the idol

[Majingir]

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Ya. That could very well be the stupidest move in the history of Survivor. Worse than Erik or Brandon. He was in the most powerful position in Survivor history and he messed it up! He's done for sure now and it sucks cause he deserved to win more than anyone and now it looks like Spencer is gonna win the season.

He would've been guaranteed final 3 even if Trish was gone, and he would choose who's in the final 3. If final 2 is Kass and Spencer......That has to be one of the worst final 2s in the history of Survivor.

[rsnomar05]

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Ya. That could very well be the stupidest move in the history of Survivor. Worse than Erik or Brandon. He was in the most powerful position in Survivor history and he messed it up! He's done for sure now and it sucks cause he deserved to win more than anyone and now it looks like Spencer is gonna win the season.

He would've been guaranteed final 3 even if Trish was gone, and he would choose who's in the final 3. If final 2 is Kass and Spencer......That has to be one of the worst final 2s in the history of Survivor.

First, I still think it's a final 3. But even if it's a final 2, Spencer has been the most deserving this season. He's been on the bottom almost this entire time and every time he's faced certain elimination he's won an immunity challenge. Not only that, but he successfully diverted attention away from himself and onto Tasha by manipulating Tony into thinking there was going to be an all-girl alliance.

As for Tony, he hasn't been the most deserving player. First, his social game has absolutely sucked, meaning he will face a bitter jury. He has lied to everyone while swearing on something like his mother or his police badge. Problem is, he's done that way too much, and it's gotten to the point where his pledges and swearing on family members means nothing. Woo and Kass both realized this, and the only reason they didn't flip on Tony last week was because Kass realized Tony was facing a bitter jury, much like Russell Hantz. She correctly surmised that there was a great chance Tony wouldn't get any votes, so she talked Woo out of flipping On top of that, Tony is way too paranoid. At the first suggestion that someone is against him he instantly believes it and gets jumpy. He is good at finding idols, but that's about it. Sure, he makes a lot of moves, but moves for the sake of moves is not smart. If he were really smart, he would have known that Kass is volatile and wouldn't have accused her of almost flipping, throwing Woo under the bus in the process. Kass, as she always does, seized on this, played the victim card, and went straight to Woo. If Tony hadn't made this dumb move, Woo likely wouldn't have flipped, and Kass would have gone home. Tony still would have been on top of the game, and Spencer would still be on the outs. Now, as it stands, Tony probably goes home next.

[Majingir]

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Why do you think it's a final 3? It's a 2 hour show next week and it's starting off with final 4. That basically guarantees a final 2.

Preview for finale seems interesting. What's up with the boat and when showing the reaction of the players to the boat,there's only 3 players sitting there to see the boat....is that a hint at the final 3?

(neither of these 2 rumors regarding the type of season each will be are confirmed as filming hasn't even started for season 29 yet,but I put it in spoiler tags anyways even though it's not a spoiler since it's unconfirmed)

Rumor for season 29 is that it's:

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Blood vs Water with only new players

Rumor for season 30 is that it's:

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"Survivor: Legends" which is basically All Stars 3(All Stars 1 was All Stars,All Stars 2 was Heroes vs Villains,All Star 3 will be Legends). Possibly a season featuring only past winners(if it's a past winners season,it truly could be the best season of Survivor ever,as long as they choose people like Parv,Richard and stuff and not ones like Jenna)

[Mabster]

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Kass is playing an excellent game. Using Tony's hot head and brashness against him to expose himself too Woo is perfectly played and might have been the only way to get Woo to wake up and stop playing the deer in headlights game. Tony hasn't been on my best player list for weeks. He's played too many people, lied to many times, paranoia has led to rash decisions and unneeded moves, and tries to play dictatorship and rule conversation. That stuff doesn't fly forever and doesn't make a winner.

It comes down to Kass and Spencer for me right now. They've both been in the bottom at some point. Kass has saved her butt through social and strategy. Spencer has saved his butt with social and immunity. The players that have to fight for survival are always better players in my book then the ones who find and ride hidden immunities to the end.

[kingkilla56]

Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

Tony finally screwed up with the idol

He voted for Trish to leave though.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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I'm just sad we won't get to see the special idol in play. Are they filming the next season already? Hopefully they are so it can be introduced without the new cast having seen this season to know what it is.

[Majingir]

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I'm just sad we won't get to see the special idol in play. Are they filming the next season already? Hopefully they are so it can be introduced without the new cast having seen this season to know what it is.

Filming hasn't started yet. They film winter/spring seasons back to back though, which is something that does suck because if a player gets brought back right away, they end up doing bad. People like James,Russell,Malcolm have all played back to back seasons and were in much worse physical,mental shape than every other person playing that season because they played 2 seasons of Survivor in a 3 month timespan.

[ajblithe20]

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Kass is playing an excellent game. Using Tony's hot head and brashness against him to expose himself too Woo is perfectly played and might have been the only way to get Woo to wake up and stop playing the deer in headlights game. Tony hasn't been on my best player list for weeks. He's played too many people, lied to many times, paranoia has led to rash decisions and unneeded moves, and tries to play dictatorship and rule conversation. That stuff doesn't fly forever and doesn't make a winner.

It comes down to Kass and Spencer for me right now. They've both been in the bottom at some point. Kass has saved her butt through social and strategy. Spencer has saved his butt with social and immunity. The players that have to fight for survival are always better players in my book then the ones who find and ride hidden immunities to the end.

I wouldn't mind if Spencer won, he's played a good game. But I think Tony has played a great game too. I don't think anyone has ever blindsided their alliance only to "be their leader" again.... twice. Tony has controlled the game for a long time, and who cares if he's lied to people. I hate how the final vote always comes down to nothing more than a popularity contest. If I was on the jury, I'd look closely at how the final 3 outwit, outlasted, and outplayed the others.... not how someone annoyed me or voted me out. That's bitter. I think it's a toss up for me on Spencer or Tony winning, it would have to come down to the arguments (which I think past people have done a really poor job of convincing the jury that they deserve it, even if they really did).

As for Kass, she is my least favorite player to ever play the game. I can't stand her, and she's a terrible player. I think all she has done well is flip alliances at the right time. Trish and Tony called her out (especially Trish) on how she plays both sides and then cries victim as soon as someone calls her out. She's a terrible person, but she's a terrible Survivor player as well. At tribal, when Trish and Tony talked about Kass, you saw EVERYONE laughing and smiling about it, and most of those people were laughing and smiling because what Trish and Tony were saying was right. I doubt she has a chance to win, but if she does, I'll be disappointed.

[Majingir]

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One thing to consider though is that they usually show jury reactions whenever Tony or Kass is talking. Spencer gets some jury reaction shots, but Woo got none. Maybe a possible hint at the finals? Can't think of any other reason they'd show jury reaction shots so much for some people and none for others.

Also...my TVguide preview says it's a final 3.....Don't know if that's true or not because I don't get how they can even have a final 3 in a 2 hour episode which already begins at final 4. Don't think it's ever been done like that before.

[mvb34]

Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

One thing to consider though is that they usually show jury reactions whenever Tony or Kass is talking. Spencer gets some jury reaction shots, but Woo got none. Maybe a possible hint at the finals? Can't think of any other reason they'd show jury reaction shots so much for some people and none for others.

Also...my TVguide preview says it's a final 3.....Don't know if that's true or not because I don't get how they can even have a final 3 in a 2 hour episode which already begins at final 4. Don't think it's ever been done like that before.

Maybe the second hour is the reunion show...

[SuperBowlNachos]

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Woo never says anything that warrants a reaction. Usually when he talks he is just agreeing with the obvious point that Jeff just stated.