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  • JayBee74
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 22989

    #196
    Re: Mr Robot

    Originally posted by PVarck31
    I have to say as a person with a degree in Psychology I almost felt real emotion for Elliot. He is very mentally ill and should probably be in a psychiatric facility.

    Just from what I observed in the first season, he suffers from Dissociative Fugue disorder, which is where he forgets who and where he is. Most likely Dissociative Identity disorder, which is having two or more distinct personalities. (Being Mr. Robot) He's also delusional and has hallucinations.

    He also likely suffers from major depression. It's amazing he can even get through a day on his own.

    I wonder if maybe they will touch more on his mental illness in season 2.

    They've done a great job making me feel for him and want him to get help.

    Then on the other hand you have Tyrell. Who is likely a psychopath or sociopath.
    His shrink doesn't seem to be making much headway.

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    • p_rushing
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 14514

      #197
      Re: Mr Robot

      Originally posted by 23
      I dont recall him being associated with being at that guys house, or that company party, while working at all safe at the same time.

      Im all for finding out who he is and what side stories are going on but seems like we're swinging in the dark when we just say that he's just everybody.
      I still think that Tyrell is probably real, but there were lots of things in this episode that point to him possibly being Elliot.

      The times square scene where all of a sudden no one is there? You can see that Elliot's mind can do anything as far as what he sees. Either he imagined all the people or he imagined them all disappearing.

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #198
        Re: Mr Robot

        Originally posted by p_rushing
        I still think that Tyrell is probably real, but there were lots of things in this episode that point to him possibly being Elliot.

        The times square scene where all of a sudden no one is there? You can see that Elliot's mind can do anything as far as what he sees. Either he imagined all the people or he imagined them all disappearing.
        Was he also in the car as mr robot his dad talking to tyrell himself as well?

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        • JayBee74
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 22989

          #199
          Re: Mr Robot

          Originally posted by 23
          Was he also in the car as mr robot his dad talking to tyrell himself as well?
          Yeah the scene with Tyrell and Slater in the car has me more interested than baffled.

          If I criticized the show earlier for the "what is real and what not is real" angle, I have to say at this point I'm really satisfied with the payoff. I'm glad I have other shows to buffer my wait for season 2.

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          • GaryT531
            MVP
            • Jun 2008
            • 1715

            #200
            Re: Mr Robot

            The popcorn gun (Darlene stole)and Tyrell don't appear in the finale, and Elliot wakes up in his SUV like three days later. Coincidence? That right there is enough to make the casual viewer even partially suspect that Elliott could be Tyrell. No one knows for sure.

            So basically overall we don't know what happened to Tyrell. We don't know where Elliot was on the days in which the hack went down. We don't know what thought process drove Angela to work for the company that's responsible for killing her mother.

            We just watched a complete first season, and we don't know anything other than whiterose looked cozy with evil corp in the post credits scene.

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            • ThePPL
              MVP
              • Jun 2008
              • 1030

              #201
              Re: Mr Robot

              So far, the only thing we can confirm is that Mr. Robot was in Elliot's head the whole time. If you watch back the footage, he's only appeared when Elliot was around. The only two scenes I can think of where Mr. Robot was not physically with Elliot was when Mr. Robot was in the van while they were at Steel Mountain and when Mr. Robot was interacting with Tyrell in Tyrell's vehicle. None of those scenes were too far out. When there were some members of fsociety in the van, none of them actually talked to Mr. Robot, in fact, Mr. Robot was sitting behind Romero and Mobley.

              There was a scene where Romero was interacting with Mr. Robot while Elliot was withdrawing and later Romero and Mobley left the motel, but it's either possible Romero was just talking to Mobley while looking at Elliot's bed or it never happened as Elliot was clearly hallucinating in scenes after that and Romero and Mobley were by Elliot's side when he stabilized.

              Elliot could have easily imagined himself as Mr. Robot while talking to Tyrell.

              Now to believe that Elliot is Tyrell is going a step too far. That would be entering a state where events clearly didn't happen and were completely imagined in Elliot's mind. Like Tyrell living in his own house with a wife that recently had a baby, Tyrell invited to the CTO candidate's home, the CTO candidate, Scott Knowles, confronting Tyrell about the washroom incident, Tyrell strangling Knowles' wife to death, Tyrell's conversations with Gideon and the CEO of Evil Corp.

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              • JayBee74
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 22989

                #202
                Re: Mr Robot

                Originally posted by ThePPL
                Elliot could have easily imagined himself as Mr. Robot while talking to Tyrell.
                Yeah, but compare the differences in demeanor between Elliot talking to Tyrell in the restroom and Mr Robot conversing with Tyrell in the car. When talking to Elliot, Tyrell was smarmy and condescending. In the car with Mr Robot was the Swede taken aback by the surprise aggressiveness of Elliot or was he reacting to Slater/Mr. Robot?

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                • ThePPL
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1030

                  #203
                  Re: Mr Robot

                  Originally posted by JayBee74
                  Yeah, but compare the differences in demeanor between Elliot talking to Tyrell in the restroom and Mr Robot conversing with Tyrell in the car. When talking to Elliot, Tyrell was smarmy and condescending. In the car with Mr Robot was the Swede taken aback by the surprise aggressiveness of Elliot or was he reacting to Slater/Mr. Robot?
                  Elliot has already shown his aggressive demeanor when he appeared to be almost insulted that Tyrell brought him to the regular employee's cafeteria.

                  You can argue that Elliot was cutting the bs, and showing his true personality in the car knowing Tyrell already doesn't see him as an innocent tech.

                  Since Tyrell revealed that he knows about Elliot's hack, there's no need to be swarmy anymore. He grabbed Mr. Robot by the collar, he threaten him. Tyrell did seem less smug in the car and more serious, but he was feeling more desperate at the time and he was trying to get down to business.
                  Last edited by ThePPL; 09-07-2015, 06:11 PM. Reason: grammar correction

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                  • Tsuki
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 637

                    #204
                    Re: Mr Robot

                    Originally posted by 23
                    Dude he was fired... he cant lobby for a job at a company he doesn't even work at.
                    It is either what I see. Or E corp thinks it is Tyrell. Regardless Tyrell is sorta guilty by association if he had anything to do with Elliot successfully executing the plan.
                    "ITS SO FLUFFY!!!">:D

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                    • ThePPL
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1030

                      #205
                      Re: Mr Robot

                      Originally posted by GaryT531
                      The popcorn gun (Darlene stole)and Tyrell don't appear in the finale, and Elliot wakes up in his SUV like three days later. Coincidence? That right there is enough to make the casual viewer even partially suspect that Elliott could be Tyrell. No one knows for sure.

                      So basically overall we don't know what happened to Tyrell. We don't know where Elliot was on the days in which the hack went down. We don't know what thought process drove Angela to work for the company that's responsible for killing her mother.

                      We just watched a complete first season, and we don't know anything other than whiterose looked cozy with evil corp in the post credits scene.
                      Possible season 2
                      Spoiler

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                      • Antec
                        Retar Crew
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 943

                        #206
                        Re: Mr Robot

                        Logistically I don't see how Tyrell can be a delusion / part of Elliot but the scene with his wife has be second guessing it. Her line of questioning/tone is strange; she tests him with swedish to see if he gets it; and she seems sad by the end of the conversation realizing her husband is nuts. But I don't see how 1 person can be in so many places at once. Between the hacking, 2 different jobs, a girlfriend, a dog, & a wife he would need to be the most efficient guy in the world.

                        I give myself half credit on the Darlene twist. When she first showed up I completely forgot about the hacker girl he met at the arcade and figured it was his sister. She had no boundaries for his personal space by breaking in, overshared way too much to be a stranger, and especially the line about 'of course I know where you live'.

                        I was watching it like okay this is his sister...oh wait it's that chick from before...you idiot how did you forget about her and think she was his sister.

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                        • jorge380
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1249

                          #207
                          Re: Mr Robot

                          Originally posted by Antec
                          Logistically I don't see how Tyrell can be a delusion / part of Elliot but the scene with his wife has be second guessing it. Her line of questioning/tone is strange; she tests him with swedish to see if he gets it; and she seems sad by the end of the conversation realizing her husband is nuts. But I don't see how 1 person can be in so many places at once. Between the hacking, 2 different jobs, a girlfriend, a dog, & a wife he would need to be the most efficient guy in the world.

                          I give myself half credit on the Darlene twist. When she first showed up I completely forgot about the hacker girl he met at the arcade and figured it was his sister. She had no boundaries for his personal space by breaking in, overshared way too much to be a stranger, and especially the line about 'of course I know where you live'.

                          I was watching it like okay this is his sister...oh wait it's that chick from before...you idiot how did you forget about her and think she was his sister.
                          Anything is possible with Mr. Robot

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                          • RockinDaMike
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 9091

                            #208
                            Re: Mr Robot

                            Yeah I've stopped figuring it out awhile ago. It's too crazy to make sense of it and it's fascinating to me.

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                            • fistofrage
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 13682

                              #209
                              Re: Mr Robot

                              Originally posted by Antec
                              Logistically I don't see how Tyrell can be a delusion / part of Elliot but the scene with his wife has be second guessing it. Her line of questioning/tone is strange; she tests him with swedish to see if he gets it; and she seems sad by the end of the conversation realizing her husband is nuts. But I don't see how 1 person can be in so many places at once. Between the hacking, 2 different jobs, a girlfriend, a dog, & a wife he would need to be the most efficient guy in the world.

                              I give myself half credit on the Darlene twist. When she first showed up I completely forgot about the hacker girl he met at the arcade and figured it was his sister. She had no boundaries for his personal space by breaking in, overshared way too much to be a stranger, and especially the line about 'of course I know where you live'.

                              I was watching it like okay this is his sister...oh wait it's that chick from before...you idiot how did you forget about her and think she was his sister.
                              I semi binge watched this show over the course of a few weeks. It is fascinating. I also don't see how Elliott could be Tyrell. It would make sense for Elliot to have a Tyrell like personality, but logistically it just doesn't seem to fit.

                              I could almost see how Elliot is one of Tyrells personalities. Some guy in a high profile high stress job has an alter ego rents a floppy apartment with minimal furnishings and goes on morphine benders off the grid. But that scenario doesn't fit logistically either.

                              Fascinating show. I kind of wish they would have kept it to ones season though and told a story. Shows like this become popular, they look to stretch them out for the sake of revenue and in the end, they end up with inconsistent writing and storylines that don't go anywhere. See Lost as the perfect example.
                              Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                              • JayBee74
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 22989

                                #210
                                Re: Mr Robot

                                Originally posted by fistofrage
                                Fascinating show. I kind of wish they would have kept it to ones season though and told a story.
                                My guess is that you're in the minority on that one.

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