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  • SuperBowlNachos
    All Star
    • Jul 2004
    • 10218

    #1021
    Re: Cord cutting

    I think I am finally going to sign up for a streaming service. Like a good son I've just bummed off my parents for things like ESPN after moving out.

    I am leaning towards Hulu with Live TV ++++++ since I already pay for Hulu no ads. It also looks like it is $20 off for 3 months right now. I would add the Redzone/sports package with one day hoping any of them get Bally Sports back.

    Any reason to consider others?

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    • SuperBowlNachos
      All Star
      • Jul 2004
      • 10218

      #1022
      Re: Cord cutting

      Originally posted by The Kid 24
      Not that Im aware of... We mostly watch YTTV.
      Are you in a rush to get one? This Firestick was $25 on Prime Day. I'd bet there is a similar deal on Black Friday or maybe even before then.

      Either way get one with the remote that can control the TV volume. I'd personally say go ahead and get a 4K version.

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      • lowpaiddonkey10
        MVP
        • Oct 2017
        • 2163

        #1023
        Re: Cord cutting

        Originally posted by SuperBowlNachos
        I think I am finally going to sign up for a streaming service. Like a good son I've just bummed off my parents for things like ESPN after moving out.

        I am leaning towards Hulu with Live TV ++++++ since I already pay for Hulu no ads. It also looks like it is $20 off for 3 months right now. I would add the Redzone/sports package with one day hoping any of them get Bally Sports back.

        Any reason to consider others?

        Went with YTTV rather than Hulu due to the exclusion of MLB Network on Hulu. The DVR is unlimited on YTTV Hulu like 20 hours or something like that.

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        • dubcity
          Hall Of Fame
          • May 2012
          • 17872

          #1024
          Re: Cord cutting

          Originally posted by m1ke_nyc
          Peacock Premium special $1.99mo for 12 months or $20 upfront for the whole year. New accounts only, if currently subbed just cancel and create a new account.
          Good deal if you can handle the commercials.

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          • The Kid 24
            It's Show Time!
            • Jan 2007
            • 14762

            #1025
            Re: Cord cutting

            God damnit, YTTV just lost MLB Network.


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            • Cod
              MVP
              • May 2007
              • 2717

              #1026
              Re: Cord cutting

              This may be a sign that MLB is exploring direct-to-consumer options with Diamond Sports Group (Sinclair / Bally) scheduled to file for bankruptcy soon. MLB already told the company that MLB would not renegotiate their deal or take deferred payments. I realize this is specific to regional networks; however, it may be part of a larger play to make MLB.tv "the" streaming option for baseball. They could offer MLB.tv with no blackouts, MLB Network, and more.

              This is already playing out in MLS with AppleTV offering every game (even national ones) without regional blackouts and most MLSNext games as well.

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              • Speedy
                #Ace
                • Apr 2008
                • 16143

                #1027
                Re: Cord cutting

                Originally posted by Cod
                They could offer MLB.tv with no blackouts, MLB Network, and more.
                I am so ready for this.
                Originally posted by Gibson88
                Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                • dubcity
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • May 2012
                  • 17872

                  #1028
                  Re: Cord cutting

                  I can't see MLB taking MLB Network off of TV/streaming like that.

                  YouTube TV is going to have to raise their price sooner rather than later. They are still sticking it out at $65 for a lot of content.

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                  • Jr.
                    Playgirl Coverboy
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19171

                    #1029
                    Re: Cord cutting

                    Originally posted by dubcity
                    I can't see MLB taking MLB Network off of TV/streaming like that.

                    YouTube TV is going to have to raise their price sooner rather than later. They are still sticking it out at $65 for a lot of content.
                    Yeah it's not urgent right now, there's not much for MLB Network to showcase. I expect it will be resolved by the end of February

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                    • p_rushing
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 14514

                      #1030
                      Re: Cord cutting

                      Originally posted by Cod
                      This may be a sign that MLB is exploring direct-to-consumer options with Diamond Sports Group (Sinclair / Bally) scheduled to file for bankruptcy soon. MLB already told the company that MLB would not renegotiate their deal or take deferred payments. I realize this is specific to regional networks; however, it may be part of a larger play to make MLB.tv "the" streaming option for baseball. They could offer MLB.tv with no blackouts, MLB Network, and more.

                      This is already playing out in MLS with AppleTV offering every game (even national ones) without regional blackouts and most MLSNext games as well.
                      Those contracts are way too much revenue for the teams. There is no way MLB.tv can fill in the revenue. If Bally goes under, someone will buy the rights and have broadcast control.

                      Unless MLB is buying their own rights back and paying the teams their contracts, nothing changes.

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                      • Cod
                        MVP
                        • May 2007
                        • 2717

                        #1031
                        Re: Cord cutting

                        Originally posted by p_rushing
                        Those contracts are way too much revenue for the teams. There is no way MLB.tv can fill in the revenue. If Bally goes under, someone will buy the rights and have broadcast control.

                        Unless MLB is buying their own rights back and paying the teams their contracts, nothing changes.
                        I thought the same thing, until I read this in a recent article: Sports leagues have been aware that bankruptcy could occur, and with it, Major League Baseball hired former Sinclair and FOX Media Group executive Billy Chambers to the newly created position of Executive Vice President, Local Media. Chambers is scheduled to start at MLB on February 1st.

                        Chambers was specifically sought out and hired by MLB after the rumors of Diamond bankruptcy last year to help MLB maximize the reach of their game in clubs' local markets. I read all this as MLB is exploring direct-to-consumer options.

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                        • Hammerhunker
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3007

                          #1032
                          Re: Cord cutting

                          I am speaking from ignorances regarding all of the agreements and such, but to me it seems like MLB is leaving a crap-ton of moolah on the table. Blacking out "local viewers" (I am a local viewer of a team and live 500 miles away, and I know there are more ridiculous situations existing) is wasting a torrent of advertising revenue.

                          Is this the case in a nutshell or what I am missing here?

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                          • SuperBowlNachos
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 10218

                            #1033
                            Re: Cord cutting

                            Originally posted by Hammerhunker
                            I am speaking from ignorances regarding all of the agreements and such, but to me it seems like MLB is leaving a crap-ton of moolah on the table. Blacking out "local viewers" (I am a local viewer of a team and live 500 miles away, and I know there are more ridiculous situations existing) is wasting a torrent of advertising revenue.

                            Is this the case in a nutshell or what I am missing here?
                            Regional sports networks. They pay for the rights to the local viewing area. 500 miles away is crazy, but if XYZ Network has the rights then that's just how it is.

                            It's awful in my area too. The Rangers, Mavericks, and Stars are on Bally Southwest, but you can't get that channel except on traditional cable/satellite services. Or you can pay $20/mo for their streaming service.

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                            • p_rushing
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 14514

                              #1034
                              Re: Cord cutting

                              Originally posted by Cod
                              I thought the same thing, until I read this in a recent article: Sports leagues have been aware that bankruptcy could occur, and with it, Major League Baseball hired former Sinclair and FOX Media Group executive Billy Chambers to the newly created position of Executive Vice President, Local Media. Chambers is scheduled to start at MLB on February 1st.

                              Chambers was specifically sought out and hired by MLB after the rumors of Diamond bankruptcy last year to help MLB maximize the reach of their game in clubs' local markets. I read all this as MLB is exploring direct-to-consumer options.
                              I'm guessing he was hired to get better contracts with the providers but I doubt it will be a full MLB TV offering only. The RSNs have priced themselves into bankruptcy because they kept increasing fees. More and more people don't want them.

                              The main issue is those contracts are crazy, even for the terrible teams. There isn't anyone who can match that pay. I don't know how many subscribers they have but I don't see how they lose money without those deals.

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                              • tarheelguy4736
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 852

                                #1035
                                Re: Cord cutting

                                Diamond Sports Group, owner of 19 Bally Sports regional networks that broadcast games of 14 MLB, 16 NBA and 12 NHL teams, skipped out on about $140 million in interest owed, triggering a 30-day grace period that could lead to a bankruptcy filing.


                                I think you are witnessing the end of the RSNs now. Missing just the interest payments is a huge signal that they just can't afford to pay these teams for the rights anymore.

                                My assumption would be the sports leagues will have to manage on their own. I am sure they will use their own applications and make people pay. My hope is that it wont be too expensive, especially since most of us would only watch out local teams. I dont want to have to pay to watch teams I never will watch.

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