Game of Thrones: Season 8 (Final season)

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 8 (Final season)

No one is surprised she's gone mad. They don't like how it happened.

[TMagic]

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No one is surprised she's gone mad. They don't like how it happened.

It didn't happen this episode when the "bells rang" as you assumed. It wasn't out of nowhere as the people who didn't "like how it happened" seem to think

You specifically pointed out that she saved people two episodes ago. But somehow forgot about all the people she's killed during her conquest for the throne over the years or that her bestie and child were killed the episode directly preceding this one.

I guess Im just viewing it from a different lens. 🤷🏾*♂️

[DieHardYankee26]

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I think you're just misinterpreting what's being said, I'll elaborate when I get a chance.

That clips tells us Dany will eventually go mad...but I just said we already knew that. We want to be shown the descent. The list of things you gave...the problem is a tyrant who kills isn't a mad tyrant, it's just a tyrant. She was never Jon Snow, she wasn't ever going to be that, her family isn't that way, but the character who's been trying to save innocents the whole show snapping out of nowhere...honestly that isn't what kills me. She didn't even go for Cersei. She could've flown straight into the Red Keep and torched Cersei and everything she loves, but she starts killing randoms instead?

The reason I brought up the bells is because they played it like it looked like some sort of trigger, I knew she was going to go mad but for her to just do what she did there had to be an explanation. The writers said in the behind the episode thing that it was because she saw the Red Keep and lost it, I guess she forgot about her purpose the same way she forgot about the Iron Fleet.

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You specifically pointed out that she saved people two episodes ago. But somehow forgot about all the people she's killed during her conquest for the throne over the years or that her bestie and child were killed the episode directly preceding this one.

She's sacrificing a lot in E3 to save the realm and millions of innocent people, and plenty of not-so-innocent folks as well. An episode and a half later she's murdering tons of innocent people--women and children!--left and right.

Sure, she's been ruthless with her enemies or people who've tried to take advantage of her or cross her. There's a chasm between being ruthless to your enemies and slaughtering thousands of innocent people. It's the difference between being a tough military leader and being Hitler.

Even if they did something as simple as having her kill innocent bystanders while she's taking out the enemy armies in KL it'd make more sense. But to win the war and then decide to kill a ton of innocent civilians, before taking care of Cersei? Eh...

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She's sacrificing a lot in E3 to save the realm and millions of innocent people, and plenty of not-so-innocent folks as well. An episode and a half later she's murdering tons of innocent people--women and children!--left and right.

Sure, she's been ruthless with her enemies or people who've tried to take advantage of her or cross her. There's a chasm between being ruthless to your enemies and slaughtering thousands of innocent people. It's the difference between being a tough military leader and being Hitler.

Even if they did something as simple as having her kill innocent bystanders while she's taking out the enemy armies in KL it'd make more sense. But to win the war and then decide to kill a ton of innocent civilians, before taking care of Cersei? Eh...

But that's ignoring her motives for doing so.

As someone else mentioned, winning the fight against Cercei wasnt the only goal. She wants the throne. That supercedes all. It becomes clear when she doesn't go right to the red keep to kill Cersei immediately.

She wants to rule. And she can't do that if the people aren't behind her. She can't do that once word spreads that she isn't the true heir and John (who everybody who's anybody loves) is the true king.

So without the people... and without birthright...what does she have?

The constant theme that has been thrown at her over and over the entire series...fear. That's what she's decides to turn to when lighting up these innocent people.

Edit:

I also don't know if she was motivated by the innocent people who would be killed by the walkers as she was by John and the fact that the WW were a threat to what she sees as "hers". She gave John the same treatment that Cersei did when he first came to her about the WW.

And then afterwards it pissed her off seeing John get the attention of the people when she was hoping to be the recipient of their adoration.

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But that's ignoring her motives for doing so.

As someone else mentioned, winning the fight against Cercei wasnt the only goal. She wants the throne. That supercedes all. It becomes clear when she doesn't go right to the red keep to kill Cersei immediately.

She wants to rule. And she can't do that if the people aren't behind her. She can't do that once word spreads that she isn't the true heir and John (who everybody who's anybody loves) is the true king.

So without the people... and without birthright...what does she have?

If that's her line of thinking then the first thing she should do is kill Jon.

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If that's her line of thinking then the first thing she should do is kill Jon.

And that's very well what I think she will try to do in the next episode.

I dont think she went into it thinking that she's going to kill people or kill John. It wasn't until the fight was won that she realized despite winning these battles, the throne is still not hers.

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[NYJets]

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This didn't come close to approaching TWD or Breaking Bad. The earlier seasons made them my favorite shows. But they ruined it as it progressed to the point where I started hating the main characters. That's never good.



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The whole point of Breaking Bad was for Walter White to go from the good guy to the villain that you hate. They did that perfectly. Every step along the way made sense. This was like if they had taken season 2 Walter White and gone straight to Season 5 Walter White, skipping everything along the way.

The only show I can recall that was this popular and this bad at the end was Lost, and honestly GOT might be even worse due to the 180 it did along the way. Most fans had a suspicion that Lost wasn't going to have a fulfilling ending. GOT completely changed the style/type of show over the last 2ish seasons. This isn't even about an unsatisfying conclusion, it's about the entire show becoming complete **** down the home stretch that barely resembles what the first few seasons were like.

Agreed 100%.

[DamnYanks2]

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Wasn't so much that. I just lost interest. Didn't grip me like the first three seasons did. Not to get OT.

But I've never lost interest in GOT. It still grips me. Paid for HBO just for that series. Never done that for any show. Let alone just six episodes.

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[johnnyg713]

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A lot of reaching going on in this forum. Wether you like the show this season or not, here is support for everyone disappointed with the writing. ... and everyone else that thinks they’re clever with their “clear cut” explanations.

https://m.ign.com/articles/2019/05/13/game-of-thrones-s8-ep-5-review

[DamnYanks2]

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If that's her line of thinking then the first thing she should do is kill Jon.

She loves Jon, she doesn't want to kill Jon. She doesn't care about the people in Kings Landing.

You are correct she should kill him if she wants the throne.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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The whole reason it's taken so long for her to take Kings Landing was because she didn't know how to do it without killing innocents. If that is out the window, whatever love for Jon she has should be out just as quick.

[tdawg3782]

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Spoiler

This was a flat out nuclear holocaust!

My wife and I watched and were blown away at the madness. But we knew it was coming. You feel and sense it building and building. Dani trusts no one. Jon denying her love was the final straw and I knew at that moment she would go full postal on Kings Landing.

A tremendous episode. An incredible series. One of the best of all time hands down. So good that I will revisit it and watch it all again without question.


With that being said......any Vikings fans in here? That is the next best show IMO. Incredible actually.

I agree completely. I love the ride this show has taken me on. I have no complaints at all. I may not have liked some things that have happened but it's not my story and it has entertained all through out.

Funny you mention Vikings because my coworker today was just telling me I need to start watching that next. Two recommendations in one day? Think I have to do it now.

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[bkfount]

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I enjoyed the show but feel like it suffers from the end being so rushed. Things feel unearned to me.

[tdawg3782]

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I still don't understand why people are upset over things feeling rushed. It's only 6 episodes in something that should be 10 episodes. We are missing anywhere from 3-5 hours of content. Also a majority of this season has been battles that we needed but that also took up more time. There was just no opportunity to flesh more character development out in a proper way. This is why I just take it for what it is able to be. I love discussing this show but it has turned into lots of complaining lately. Oh well. I digress.

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