Game of Thrones: Season 8 (Final season)

[jeremym480]

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I can’t believe they didn’t even get past Winterfell. The lost in literally their first battle south of the Wall. Everyone that didn’t see them as a threat was right, the show would be the same without them

That bothers me a bit, as well. I was a little upset about how things went down at first. Arya killing the Night King would be kind of like if Jon ends up killing Cersei, it just doesn't fit to me. However, after realizing that I missed Melisandre's premonition from Season 2 and the fact that Arya has basically been training for that her entire life then I was able to buy into it. I have to say that the Night King going out like that and that easily wouldn't have been my first choice but overall I'm not too upset.

With that said I am pretty disappointed that a) we didn't get a Jon Snow vs the Night King battle and that the White Walkers were all basically useless because the wights did all of the heavy lifting and b) that we didn't get to see the dead marching into Kings Landing. I mean, it's just up to your imagination at this point, but I imagine that being epic.

I guess going forward the story will be Jon, Dany and their severely depleted army but with Dragons vs Cersei's army with Euron and the Golden Company but that seems like a step back from the Battle with the Dead... I'm sure that I'm wrong and there's plenty of entertainment left but that's my initial thought.

[DamnYanks2]

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I think everyone is overrating the White walkers. They can all be killed with the death of the Night King. They aren't incredibly skilled fighters. There is just a ****load of them.

The WW have the numbers. But Jon and Danys armies among the others are far more skilled at battle. Not to mention they have literally every legendary warrior from this series all gathered together to fight as one. That's pretty tough. Greyworm, Brienne, Jamie, Jon, Arya, Tormund, etc...

The WW still decimated Jon and Dany's armies. And did what never had been done before. Destroyed the Wall.

Maybe the night king fell easier then predicted. But you all act like he was a bitch. The same dude that threw a spear and killled a Dragon mid flight and brought the wall down.

The result is honestly what I expected. Collectively that's an insane group the WW's had to go through. Just my take.



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[ehh]

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I think everyone is overrating the White walkers. They can all be killed with the death of the Night King. They aren't incredibly skilled fighters. There is just a ****load of them.

Wights and White Walkers are different. White Walkers are pretty darn skilled fighters and there aren't many of them.

The only thing people can really complain about is the military strategies employed, which is something I'm just not going to do in a show like GOT.

[DamnYanks2]

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Wights and White Walkers are different. White Walkers are pretty darn skilled fighters and there aren't many of them.



The only thing people can really complain about is the military strategies employed, which is something I'm just not going to do in a show like GOT. [emoji38]

Yea I know. I was reading one fan post how they were disappointed that the direwolf went into battle and didn't protect the crypt.

I didn't even think of that lol. I just enjoyed what I was watching. Of course it would have been badass to see the dead descend on Kings Landing. But, I thought it was still pretty damn good.

I mean I saw Sam fight off hordes of Wights. They can't be that great lol sorry.

I think it was more so the fear of the unknown with the Wights. It's nothing you've ever seen before. Hard to plan for an enemy few knew about.

Still, as I said they did a **** load of damage to Winterfells armies. Are there even any Dothraki left?

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[DieHardYankee26]

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Maybe the night king fell easier then predicted. But you all act like he was a bitch. The same dude that threw a spear and killled a Dragon mid flight and brought the wall down.
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I think I built him up as some epic warrior after the javelin throw lol. I was basically expecting a field, him and Jon on either end, slaughtering the others army until they met. I felt like

Spoiler

the Arya move

is the assassin equivalent of poking someone's left shoulder, them looking over it but plot twist, I'm over your right shoulder, I just couldn't believe he went out like that.

[ESPOMAN]

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That bothers me a bit, as well. I was a little upset about how things went down at first. Arya killing the Night King would be kind of like if Jon ends up killing Cersei, it just doesn't fit to me. However, after realizing that I missed Melisandre's premonition from Season 2 and the fact that Arya has basically been training for that her entire life then I was able to buy into it. I have to say that the Night King going out like that and that easily wouldn't have been my first choice but overall I'm not too upset.

With that said I am pretty disappointed that a) we didn't get a Jon Snow vs the Night King battle and that the White Walkers were all basically useless because the wights did all of the heavy lifting and b) that we didn't get to see the dead marching into Kings Landing. I mean, it's just up to your imagination at this point, but I imagine that being epic.

I guess going forward the story will be Jon, Dany and their severely depleted army but with Dragons vs Cersei's army with Euron and the Golden Company but that seems like a step back from the Battle with the Dead... I'm sure that I'm wrong and there's plenty of entertainment left but that's my initial thought.

The thing that’s weird with Melisandre and Arya is that the directors said that they had Arya killing the Night King for only 3 years. So when that line was said it just meant she will kill a lot of people. She’s probably gonna kill Cersei because of Green eyes which I wouldn’t like too much if she kills both of the big bads this season Idk.
I am just annoyed Jon never fought the Night King. Arya just had no connection to themher arc is her list not the Dead. I don’t know though. I just wonder how it’s gonna end

[DocHolliday]

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Man I just went down the Rabbit whole of Redditors about that episode. They are not happy! Some really funny stuff in there though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comm...d_up_a_minute/

[tdawg3782]

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I'm not sure why you guys expected a Jon vs The Night King one on one battle. When has this show ever giving us that. Never got a Jamie vs Ned (I don't count the baby fight when the captured Ned), Jamie vs Robb, Loras vs anyone skilled, etc. They built the Night King up and honestly I don't think Jon would have had any chance one on one. The only way to beat him was distraction, misdirection, and ambush. The first two was achieved by Bran and the Night Kings infatuation with him. The second by the sneaky ninja assassin.

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[DamnYanks2]

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I'm not sure why you guys expected a Jon vs The Night King one on one battle. When has this show ever giving us that. Never got a Jamie vs Ned (I don't count the baby fight when the captured Ned), Jamie vs Robb, Loras vs anyone skilled, etc. They built the Night King up and honestly I don't think Jon would have had any chance one on one. The only way to beat him was distraction, misdirection, and ambush. The first two was achieved by Bran and the Night Kings infatuation with him. The second by the sneaky ninja assassin.

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I was thinking too man. Hasn't Jon done enough? Let someone else do something lol. Jon has done his lion share. I'm ok with someone else dealing the final blow.

And we know Jon will have a pivotal part in the invasion of King's Landing.

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[DamnYanks2]

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I think I built him up as some epic warrior after the javelin throw lol. I was basically expecting a field, him and Jon on either end, slaughtering the others army until they met. I felt like

Spoiler

the Arya move

is the assassin equivalent of poking someone's left shoulder, them looking over it but plot twist, I'm over your right shoulder, I just couldn't believe he went out like that.

Yea I don't disagree with that. I think maybe we just don't fully grasp how great an assassin Arya had become. How quietly she could move and sneak up on victims.

And Bran seemed to have the Night King in a trance. His focus all around him was a little weaker in that moment because he was so entranced with Bran. Where he had full focus of his surroundings when he knew Jon was coming from behind him.

Bran lured him in for the final blow. That was Bran's purpose. That's my guess.



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[tdawg3782]

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I was thinking too man. Hasn't Jon done enough? Let someone else do something lol. Jon has done his lion share. I'm ok with someone else dealing the final blow.

And we know Jon will have a pivotal part in the invasion of King's Landing.

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To me I think Jon's pivotal role versus the WW was to unite the people (aka the living) against this massive threat to, well, the world really. Who else could have done it? He is the only character who has a Nobel bloodline, respect among many cultures, and no desire to rule any part of the Seven Kingdoms. He is a protector and just wants what is best and fair for the people. A selfless warrior.


If he doesn't accomplish his task the WW run over the entire Seven Kingdoms and that is that. Did I think the Night King was going down in the last episode? Hell no. I thought the same as many of you. He has been built up so much over the last 7+ seasons there is no way him and his army go down in one, albeit movie length, episode. Was I shocked when it happened? Yes I was. Big time actually. But you know what? I am 100% okay with that. I think it happened in a perfect way.


The Night King got cocky. He had never really been challenged. I think a lot of people, me included, thought Bran was the one lately who had thought his **** didn't stink with his all seeing 3 Eyed Raven plan. I thought he was going down. But you know what? He is the mother****ing, all seeing, 3 Eyed Raven!!!! He knew what he was doing the whole time. Giving the Super Sneaky Ninja Assassin (Arya) a chance to do what she does best. And it still almost didn't work. But in the end, at least in my opinion, it happened because the Night King got distracted just enough by Bran, got cocky when he caught Arya, and didn't realize who the **** he was dealing with lol. She's got reflex's like a Puma hahaha!!!


So while this outcome was shocking to me I am very happy with it and can't wait for the next 3 episodes to see how this all wraps up. Also this is just my opinion on what happened and I fully respect others opinions which differ with mine. I'm not here to change your mind. Just stating what I thought of the episode.

[DamnYanks2]

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That was the only conceivable way to take out the Night King though. We watched him take a hail of dragon fire that would have destroyed a thousand or more men. And it did nothing to him.

He took out a very skilled Theon that had just held his own against a **** load of a whights in about a tenth of a second.

It took Bran and Arya at a perfectly synchronized moment to end it... That was the only way. Not even Jon could have bested the NK one on one. Especially when the NK could keep raising the dead. Impossible. Maybe not the sexiest ending, but more realistic then the others.

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[GAMEC0CK2002]

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That was the only conceivable way to take out the Night King though. We watched him take a hail of dragon fire that would have destroyed a thousand or more men. And it did nothing to him.

He took out a very skilled Theon that had just held his own against a **** load of a whights in about a tenth of a second.

It took Bran and Arya at a perfectly synchronized moment to end it... That was the only way. Not even Jon could have bested the NK one on one. Especially when the NK could keep raising the dead. Impossible. Maybe not the sexiest ending, but more realistic then the others.

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Nice summation. I had no problem with Arya going 007 to take out the NK. Much more believable than Jon in a 1 to 1 faceoff.

[Beantown]

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I’m done defending it against people that are clearly watching the show for different reasons than me but....

After three rewatches, it’s the best episode of TV I’ve ever watched. And I’m so ****ing glad I’m on my side.

[Cardot]

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I can’t believe they didn’t even get past Winterfell. The lost in literally their first battle south of the Wall. Everyone that didn’t see them as a threat was right, the show would be the same without them

I agree that the demise of the NK was rather abrupt and a bit anti-climactic. But I am not sure what the alternative would be? If they get past Winterfell, the AoTD won't face much trouble at The Twins or Harrenhal....so I guess we end up with a final battle at Kings Landing between the NK and Cersei/Euron?