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  • keRplunK
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 4080

    #31
    Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

    duh.........they were losing something like 150-200$ per console when they were 300$, the martirials to make them got cheaper but they also moved the price down 100$ so.........= no money.........

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    • ThatCanadianGuy
      d*v*'s * k*ll*r!
      • Jul 2002
      • 2111

      #32
      Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

      None of the companies really make anything on the consoles, they make most of their money on the games and accessories.

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      • ThatCanadianGuy
        d*v*'s * k*ll*r!
        • Jul 2002
        • 2111

        #33
        Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

        None of the companies really make anything on the consoles, they make most of their money on the games and accessories.

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        • backbreaker
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3991

          #34
          Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

          Here's the deal, the reason XBOX isn't closing the gap and is losing money on their console, is this and it is simply noticable for the layman. 1. Every marketing tool that they have use is a complete copy cat of Sony i. e. placing the logo at the end of commercials, 2. Their is always a title coming out labeled "The _______ Killer" of whatever sony title that is raking in the dollars and getting rave reviews. Sony implemented the "Live in your world Play in ours" what did Microsoft do "There is no power greater than X. Power of a system has never made it sucessful, the original playstation was inferior to N64 and Dreamcast and laid them out to pasture. XBOX and GC are more powerful than PS2 and they are following suit. Nobody goes into a venture with the goal of losing money, so if you believe that, you should buy a house on quick sand. I own all systems from Pong thru XBOX. They all have their good and bad titles and titles are what drive a system, just like i.e. You have a M60 machine Gun, and I have M16, everyone knows that the M60 is more powerful, but if you only have 3 rounds of ammo, and I have 400, who will win the battle.

          Before the fanboy mumbo jumbo starts, I will say this again I own all systems and play them all, I'm 38 years old and I go to E3 every year, I'm an education software developer in Los Angeles, I work for a high profile Museum. I speak the facts which the #'s prove out.

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          • backbreaker
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 3991

            #35
            Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

            Here's the deal, the reason XBOX isn't closing the gap and is losing money on their console, is this and it is simply noticable for the layman. 1. Every marketing tool that they have use is a complete copy cat of Sony i. e. placing the logo at the end of commercials, 2. Their is always a title coming out labeled "The _______ Killer" of whatever sony title that is raking in the dollars and getting rave reviews. Sony implemented the "Live in your world Play in ours" what did Microsoft do "There is no power greater than X. Power of a system has never made it sucessful, the original playstation was inferior to N64 and Dreamcast and laid them out to pasture. XBOX and GC are more powerful than PS2 and they are following suit. Nobody goes into a venture with the goal of losing money, so if you believe that, you should buy a house on quick sand. I own all systems from Pong thru XBOX. They all have their good and bad titles and titles are what drive a system, just like i.e. You have a M60 machine Gun, and I have M16, everyone knows that the M60 is more powerful, but if you only have 3 rounds of ammo, and I have 400, who will win the battle.

            Before the fanboy mumbo jumbo starts, I will say this again I own all systems and play them all, I'm 38 years old and I go to E3 every year, I'm an education software developer in Los Angeles, I work for a high profile Museum. I speak the facts which the #'s prove out.

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            • SoMiss2000
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2002
              • 20499

              #36
              Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              1. Every marketing tool that they have use is a complete copy cat of Sony i. e. placing the logo at the end of commercials, 2. Their is always a title coming out labeled "The _______ Killer" of whatever sony title that is raking in the dollars and getting rave reviews. Sony implemented the "Live in your world Play in ours" what did Microsoft do "There is no power greater than X

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              I may be the layman but I thought the above was called...uh...let me seeeee...oh yeah...ADVERTISING AND MARKETING!

              How would you suggest they do that?
              "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
              Check out www.sliderset.net



              Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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              • SoMiss2000
                Hall Of Fame
                • Oct 2002
                • 20499

                #37
                Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                1. Every marketing tool that they have use is a complete copy cat of Sony i. e. placing the logo at the end of commercials, 2. Their is always a title coming out labeled "The _______ Killer" of whatever sony title that is raking in the dollars and getting rave reviews. Sony implemented the "Live in your world Play in ours" what did Microsoft do "There is no power greater than X

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                I may be the layman but I thought the above was called...uh...let me seeeee...oh yeah...ADVERTISING AND MARKETING!

                How would you suggest they do that?
                "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                Check out www.sliderset.net



                Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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                • injunwal
                  T*g*r's Sw*ng - M*ck*ls*n's M*n B**bs
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2103

                  #38
                  Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  1. Every marketing tool that they have use is a complete copy cat of Sony i. e. placing the logo at the end of commercials, 2. Their is always a title coming out labeled "The _______ Killer" of whatever sony title that is raking in the dollars and getting rave reviews. Sony implemented the "Live in your world Play in ours" what did Microsoft do "There is no power greater than X

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  I may be the layman but I thought the above was called...uh...let me seeeee...oh yeah...ADVERTISING AND MARKETING!

                  How would you suggest they do that?

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  I guess Sony was the first company to ever have a slogan.

                  Also, I remember back before there ever even was a Playstation and SEGA would show thier logo at the end of commercials along with the SEGA scream.

                  I also believe I have read about a lot of "Halo killers" since its release.

                  This is not something that MS is copying off Sony. This is advertising and Marketing and it has been going on forever
                  Actually...believe it or not from my physique... I'm a light eater - Clay T. Shaver

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                  • injunwal
                    T*g*r's Sw*ng - M*ck*ls*n's M*n B**bs
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2103

                    #39
                    Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    1. Every marketing tool that they have use is a complete copy cat of Sony i. e. placing the logo at the end of commercials, 2. Their is always a title coming out labeled "The _______ Killer" of whatever sony title that is raking in the dollars and getting rave reviews. Sony implemented the "Live in your world Play in ours" what did Microsoft do "There is no power greater than X

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    I may be the layman but I thought the above was called...uh...let me seeeee...oh yeah...ADVERTISING AND MARKETING!

                    How would you suggest they do that?

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    I guess Sony was the first company to ever have a slogan.

                    Also, I remember back before there ever even was a Playstation and SEGA would show thier logo at the end of commercials along with the SEGA scream.

                    I also believe I have read about a lot of "Halo killers" since its release.

                    This is not something that MS is copying off Sony. This is advertising and Marketing and it has been going on forever
                    Actually...believe it or not from my physique... I'm a light eater - Clay T. Shaver

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                    • imported_Administrator
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 7137

                      #40
                      Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Before the fanboy mumbo jumbo starts, I will say this again I own all systems and play them all, I'm 38 years old and I go to E3 every year, I'm an education software developer in Los Angeles, I work for a high profile Museum. I speak the facts which the #'s prove out.


                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Well someone needs to pass you the...

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                      • imported_Administrator
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7137

                        #41
                        Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        Before the fanboy mumbo jumbo starts, I will say this again I own all systems and play them all, I'm 38 years old and I go to E3 every year, I'm an education software developer in Los Angeles, I work for a high profile Museum. I speak the facts which the #'s prove out.


                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        Well someone needs to pass you the...

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                        • backbreaker
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3991

                          #42
                          Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                          "How would they do that" well, some originality to separate yourself from your competition. Most of you games are ports don't let your marketing strategy be the same way. Yes Sony has proven that their marketing machine works, I just suggesting try another direction if you don't care about losing money like most people believe, if so try something refreshing and new that will separate you. Sega had its "SEGA" blurted out at the end of their commercials, when nintendo was the market leader, there "only on nintendo" was the way they marketed. I'm not a marketing person, but I beleive there sublime message and the way they do their commercials , have people thinking of PS2, because its a direct rip off.

                          I love My XBOX, but I'm not gonna market it, just as I didn't market the PS and PS2.

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                          • backbreaker
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3991

                            #43
                            Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                            "How would they do that" well, some originality to separate yourself from your competition. Most of you games are ports don't let your marketing strategy be the same way. Yes Sony has proven that their marketing machine works, I just suggesting try another direction if you don't care about losing money like most people believe, if so try something refreshing and new that will separate you. Sega had its "SEGA" blurted out at the end of their commercials, when nintendo was the market leader, there "only on nintendo" was the way they marketed. I'm not a marketing person, but I beleive there sublime message and the way they do their commercials , have people thinking of PS2, because its a direct rip off.

                            I love My XBOX, but I'm not gonna market it, just as I didn't market the PS and PS2.

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                            • backbreaker
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3991

                              #44
                              Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                              thats funny dude.

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                              • backbreaker
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 3991

                                #45
                                Re: Microsoft\'s Xbox losses almost double.

                                thats funny dude.

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