Mass Effect Discussion

**Pared** · 11-18-2007, 11:47 AM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by jmood88

I understood what you were saying but outside of the dialogue there isn't much that is the same.

You haven't played it though so how can you say that?

This is kind of the reason why I'm asking in the Impressions thread.

**jmood88** · 11-18-2007, 11:50 AM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by Pared

You haven't played it though so how can you say that?

This is kind of the reason why I'm asking in the Impressions thread.

Sorry I actually thought that this was just the pre release thread.

**Defel** · 11-18-2007, 02:19 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by Pared

I was never able to get into KOTOR although I played it on the PC.

This is pretty much just like that, right?

If you were never able to get into KOTOR because of the dialogue/questing system, then you may have a problem with this game. This game has the same amount of the same style of dialogue as KOTOR. The dialogue system is only different from previous games in how simplified it is. It's a nice feature for those who don't care about the dialogue, don't want to think too hard about the consequences of what they say, and just want to get to the next scene while still maintaining their Paragon/Renegade status. For example, if you want to be a Paragon, hold your thumbstick to the upper right and continually press A.

If you had a problem with the combat of KOTOR, then you shouldn't have the same problem with this game. I would say the combat is similar to Jade Empire, but better, obviously. Instead of blocking and then countering with your offensive skills in Jade Empire, you're finding cover, jumping out unleashing your offensive skills and jumping back. You also have more tactical options such as rushing their position and meleeing them or splitting your group up and flanking them. Even if you had these options in Jade Empire, there would be no reason to use them as that game was ridiculously easy. In Mass Effect, you can't just run in blindly. I've only died once in 20 hours of gameplay as an Engineer on the default difficulty, but, if I didn't make my soldiers do most of the front line work, I would have died a lot more often.

In my opinion, it's too much to compare the combat to something like GRAW. This is not a complaint; it's just that this game is still primarily an RPG. Characters and enemies walk stiffly with their guns drawn in front of them. If you shoot someone with a pistol, their body will only react if the statistics behind the game say so.

**Tha_Kid** · 11-18-2007, 05:47 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

One thing i'm disappointed with about the game was that they took out the ability to interrupt people during the conversations. There was a video shown earlier this year where you could choose this response and Shepard would cut off what the other person was saying and depending on the situation might even grab them by the collar or something similar. In the final game, after you choose your response Shepard waits for whoever's talking to finish. Not a biggie if you didn't know about it, but definitely one of the coolest things if you did, especially considering just how much dialogue is in the game.

**Pared** · 11-18-2007, 05:50 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by Defel

If you were never able to get into KOTOR because of the dialogue/questing system, then you may have a problem with this game. This game has the same amount of the same style of dialogue as KOTOR. The dialogue system is only different from previous games in how simplified it is. It's a nice feature for those who don't care about the dialogue, don't want to think too hard about the consequences of what they say, and just want to get to the next scene while still maintaining their Paragon/Renegade status. For example, if you want to be a Paragon, hold your thumbstick to the upper right and continually press A.

If you had a problem with the combat of KOTOR, then you shouldn't have the same problem with this game. I would say the combat is similar to Jade Empire, but better, obviously. Instead of blocking and then countering with your offensive skills in Jade Empire, you're finding cover, jumping out unleashing your offensive skills and jumping back. You also have more tactical options such as rushing their position and meleeing them or splitting your group up and flanking them. Even if you had these options in Jade Empire, there would be no reason to use them as that game was ridiculously easy. In Mass Effect, you can't just run in blindly. I've only died once in 20 hours of gameplay as an Engineer on the default difficulty, but, if I didn't make my soldiers do most of the front line work, I would have died a lot more often.

In my opinion, it's too much to compare the combat to something like GRAW. This is not a complaint; it's just that this game is still primarily an RPG. Characters and enemies walk stiffly with their guns drawn in front of them. If you shoot someone with a pistol, their body will only react if the statistics behind the game say so.

Hey that's exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks for the post.

**Jistic** · 11-18-2007, 07:40 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by Pared

Hey that's exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks for the post.

I won't have the game til tomorrow Pared, but you might wanna pass on this one. It is still an RPG first, action second. They were pretty clear about that from the start.

**Pokes** · 11-18-2007, 08:31 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

And after 24 hours and some odd minutes of play I've beaten the game. However, there was a lot of stuff I didn't do.... I didn't know the main quest would be that short. I'm probably going to go back and pick a different background story and try to complete more of the game. Overall my feeling of this game can be summed up in one word - incredible!

**DLaren** · 11-18-2007, 09:28 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by TexanWolverine

And after 24 hours and some odd minutes of play I've beaten the game. However, there was a lot of stuff I didn't do.... I didn't know the main quest would be that short. I'm probably going to go back and pick a different background story and try to complete more of the game. Overall my feeling of this game can be summed up in one word - incredible!

Cool, when you start playing through it again, maybe you can confirm some of these things quoted from the lead designer of Mass Effect:

Originally posted by Lead Designer of Mass Effect

- The level cap on the first playthrough is 50.
- Beating the game the first time raises the cap to 60.
- You can reach this cap by playing a new character (very hard to reach) or using an old character to re-enter the game.
- You bring over all your gear and money from the previous playthrough when you restart with an old character.
- You can customize new characters on subsequent playthroughs using unlocked talents earned from achievements; think Adept with a shotgun.

Hopefully all of that stuff made it into the game...Thanks.

**Pokes** · 11-18-2007, 09:41 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by DLaren

Cool, when you start playing through it again, maybe you can confirm some of these things quoted from the lead designer of Mass Effect:

Hopefully all of that stuff made it into the game...Thanks.

I've just checked out the replay so far yes your level and stuff (eqipment/money) all carries over and the game levels up all your squad members to your level as well. Levels 51-60 have also been unlocked as well.

**USF11** · 11-18-2007, 10:10 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by TexanWolverine

I've just checked out the replay so far yes your level and stuff (eqipment/money) all carries over and the game levels up all your squad members to your level as well. Levels 51-60 have also been unlocked as well.

Just a question? Does the rest of the game level up with you? It seems like you would be unstoppable if you started a new game at 50 and the enemies are at 1?

**Pokes** · 11-18-2007, 10:19 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by USF11

Just a question? Does the rest of the game level up with you? It seems like you would be unstoppable if you started a new game at 50 and the enemies are at 1?

Depends on the difficulty; but on normal the enemies I'm encountering at the beginning were the same I was encountering at the end of the game.

**Eton Rifles** · 11-18-2007, 11:02 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

does anyone know if the games soundtrack will be available? I hear its a good score so I would want to hear it.

**Flawless** · 11-18-2007, 11:23 PM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Originally posted by Eton Rifles

does anyone know if the games soundtrack will be available? I hear its a good score so I would want to hear it.

Yes, it's coming out the same day as the game.

**Sully** · 11-19-2007, 01:01 AM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Mine shipped. Should have it tomorrow.

**Jistic** · 11-19-2007, 08:21 AM

Re: Mass Effect - Impressions

Has anyone that has the game also read the book?

Have you come across any characters/locations that were in the book?

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