Diablo 3

[MelMan1486]

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People enjoy being drama queens on the internet. It's so lame.

I never understood it. When has there ever been an online game with a smooth launch with 0 problems. Everyone knows that a newly released game is going to have issues yet some STILL freak out over it. There was one guy saying that he was "done with Blizzard games" after like 10 minutes of the game going live. If only a chill pill was real and not a figure of speach.

[MachoMyers]

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Work is done for the day. Game installing now. Pure bliss!

[Drewski]

Work is done for the day. Game installing now. Pure bliss!

Extremely envious, almost mid way through my day and I'm itching. Took a two hour nap before launch and I'm not even remotely tired. Pumped to play again. Gl in your adventures

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[st67]

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I never understood it. When has there ever been an online game with a smooth launch with 0 problems. Everyone knows that a newly released game is going to have issues yet some STILL freak out over it. There was one guy saying that he was "done with Blizzard games" after like 10 minutes of the game going live. If only a chill pill was real and not a figure of speach.

To be fair - for the people who want to play single player, it is quite poor that you can't just install the disks and play. The entire "must be online" part even to play single player was a dirty move by Blizzard. Stopped me from purchasing the game - or any other Blizzard games, until they remove it. There's no reason to validate players online when they're playing a single player mode.

[ODogg]

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If only a chill pill was real and not a figure of speach.

it is, it's called Prozac and it's a wonderful pill

[ODogg]

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To be fair - for the people who want to play single player, it is quite poor that you can't just install the disks and play. The entire "must be online" part even to play single player was a dirty move by Blizzard. Stopped me from purchasing the game - or any other Blizzard games, until they remove it. There's no reason to validate players online when they're playing a single player mode.

It's the only way to control the hacking of items and outright piracy. I see people's point that they'd like to be able to play without being connected but if it does keep things server side so there's not 50,000 of every rare item like there was in Diablo 2 then I'm in favor of it.

P.S. - I know you might think that offline, single player wouldn't have anything to do with the online aspect but the way the game works is the two are connected. The way everyone cheated in Diablo 2 was to go offline, spawn a sword, connect online and the sword would be there again and then you'd have a copy.

So if you're angry about the always-must-be-connected-online you can thank the people who did that spawning of rare items for it. It's also crucial for Blizzard to keep those rare items rare considering there's now a real-money auction house for those items.

[Skyboxer]

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Thankfully (I was sure though but confirmation is still cool) I can run full tilt on my laptop.
Today I found out I do have to work Wednesday but don't have to work Saturday so I'll take that.
Either way...there's no way I don't play full on tonight

[st67]

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It's the only way to control the hacking of items and outright piracy. I see people's point that they'd like to be able to play without being connected but if it does keep things server side so there's not 50,000 of every rare item like there was in Diablo 2 then I'm in favor of it.

P.S. - I know you might think that offline, single player wouldn't have anything to do with the online aspect but the way the game works is the two are connected. The way everyone cheated in Diablo 2 was to go offline, spawn a sword, connect online and the sword would be there again and then you'd have a copy.

So if you're angry about the always-must-be-connected-online you can thank the people who did that spawning of rare items for it. It's also crucial for Blizzard to keep those rare items rare considering there's now a real-money auction house for those items.

I appreciate your well thought out reply, and I'm glad you're not one of the people who just went "waaahbulance!" in response.

However, I don't buy it for a second. Blizzard is made up of world class programmers. They're second to none when it comes to this stuff. The online only aspect is DRM, plain and simple - the rest of it is just excuses. They could have figured out ways to stop duping and hacking if they really wanted to.

They sound like good reasons - but I just don't buy it for a second. If this is the direction PC gaming is going to take (online verification to even play), then I sadly may be done with a hobby I've had for over 20 years.

[Spoonska]

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Another fine aspect of only online gaming that seems to never get brought up is the amount of research data it supplies the company. You can track where the majority of players succeed and fail thus providing you with the information to make a better game.

If you're going to get all uppity about being connected then you're going to live out the rest of your days in frustration. This isn't just a gaming trend for all things to be online. Technology as a whole is moving towards everything being plugged in and connected. I know that's a whole separate topic so that's all I have to say about that.

[mgoblue]

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It's the only way to control the hacking of items and outright piracy. I see people's point that they'd like to be able to play without being connected but if it does keep things server side so there's not 50,000 of every rare item like there was in Diablo 2 then I'm in favor of it.

P.S. - I know you might think that offline, single player wouldn't have anything to do with the online aspect but the way the game works is the two are connected. The way everyone cheated in Diablo 2 was to go offline, spawn a sword, connect online and the sword would be there again and then you'd have a copy.

So if you're angry about the always-must-be-connected-online you can thank the people who did that spawning of rare items for it. It's also crucial for Blizzard to keep those rare items rare considering there's now a real-money auction house for those items.

While I agree with you, it is crazy annoying if your internet connection goes down for a weekend due to crappy internet. I'd hate to not be able to play my single player game because my cable company had something go down.

Whenever I get Diablo 3 I'll deal with it, but there is some value to offline play What if I bring my laptop on a work trip and there's no free wifi? I have to pay to play my game at that point?

[ODogg]

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I appreciate your well thought out reply, and I'm glad you're not one of the people who just went "waaahbulance!" in response.

However, I don't buy it for a second. Blizzard is made up of world class programmers. They're second to none when it comes to this stuff. The online only aspect is DRM, plain and simple - the rest of it is just excuses. They could have figured out ways to stop duping and hacking if they really wanted to.

They sound like good reasons - but I just don't buy it for a second. If this is the direction PC gaming is going to take (online verification to even play), then I sadly may be done with a hobby I've had for over 20 years.

I think you underestimate the hacker community. Having the data server side is really the only foolproof way to protect it from being hacked. And like I said before, I don't like it really either but I dislike the alternative much worse. Especially since there will be an open market with real world money, there just can't be any hacking and this ensures it.

Another fine aspect of only online gaming that seems to never get brought up is the amount of research data it supplies the company. You can track where the majority of players succeed and fail thus providing you with the information to make a better game.

If you're going to get all uppity about being connected then you're going to live out the rest of your days in frustration. This isn't just a gaming trend for all things to be online. Technology as a whole is moving towards everything being plugged in and connected. I know that's a whole separate topic so that's all I have to say about that.

I agree. As I said, I wasn't a big fan either but I'm not going to be so affected by the decision I revolt against it. I understand the reasons why they're doing it.

With all new technology there will be people who will resist and/or simply refuse it. I remember people saying they'd NEVER switch from DOS to Windows. Hell I was one of the last people to switch myself. You can rage against the machine but inevitably you will either adapt or be left behind..

[weeeeeeez]

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God I want to play this so bad. FUUUUU 06 macbook.

[MelMan1486]

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I appreciate your well thought out reply, and I'm glad you're not one of the people who just went "waaahbulance!" in response.

However, I don't buy it for a second. Blizzard is made up of world class programmers. They're second to none when it comes to this stuff. The online only aspect is DRM, plain and simple - the rest of it is just excuses. They could have figured out ways to stop duping and hacking if they really wanted to.

They sound like good reasons - but I just don't buy it for a second. If this is the direction PC gaming is going to take (online verification to even play), then I sadly may be done with a hobby I've had for over 20 years.

I can understand the frustration but I think you're putting the Blizzard programmers on a pedistal. Yes, they are amazing at what they do but for ever great Blizzard programmer there's an equally skilled if not better programmer out there. Diablo 2 was a mess and the Blizzard programmers put in countless hours to try and eliminate duped items and hacks but after every attempt a new hack would just surface.
They learned their lesson from D2 and decided to go to an online only account linked system. This system can be frustrating but it will eliminate alot of attempts to hack the game (which in turn will make the game more enjoyable for the people who plan to put alot of time into this game).

[Leon]

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Well, I lied about waiting to buy the game. All my friends bought day one copies so I got Diablo'ed into it.

The only thing I regret is NOT DOING IT SOONER. I thought having the beta installed would allow me to skip the download process and just activate via purchasing. NOPE! Now, I'm just staying awhile....and listen!

[MelMan1486]

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While I agree with you, it is crazy annoying if your internet connection goes down for a weekend due to crappy internet. I'd hate to not be able to play my single player game because my cable company had something go down.

Whenever I get Diablo 3 I'll deal with it, but there is some value to offline play What if I bring my laptop on a work trip and there's no free wifi? I have to pay to play my game at that point?

True but think of the alternative. What if you decide to hop on multiplayer and give the auction house a try and pay $3 for an item. Then Blizzard runs a sweep and gets rid of all the duped items and the item that you paid money for is gone because it was duped.

Just hop on Diablo 2... it's hard to find a decent party to play with, 90% of the accounts on D2 are just bots. And the human players that are playing are using the maphack to rush just so they can get their player high enough to run a bot. I think that's what Blizzard was trying to eliminate and had to sacrafice offline to get rid of it.