The Order: 1886

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How?

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It doesn't actually tell a complete story from beginning to end. There's no resolution to the Isi character, no resolution to what was happening with Hastings, no resolution to the totally-out-of-left-field vampire stuff, no indication as to whether or not the chancellor knew what Hastings was doing, nothing. Heck, there was no reason for Galahad to kill Lucen and do what the chancellor told him to do, either. There's a whole other act missing to the story.

Exactly That made me go huh myself. I actually thought that was awful

[DickDalewood]

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It very clearly sets up for additional games. Especially if you watch through the credits.

One of my favorite games this gen without a doubt.

[CMH]

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I thought I read an interview where the developer said if the game does well they will look into making a more open world sequel. He also confirmed the plan is for several games to cover the story, seeing as how they've written the history up until the present day.

I'm intrigued.

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[NYGiants4Natic]

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If this game was not awesome looking in terms of gameplay nobody would be talking it up like am reading.

This game was a total waste of money and here is why.

The actual time you play the game is more like 5 hours. There are 16 chapters and a few of them are all cust scenese with zero controller function.

The ending was a complete joke with no resolution to anything that the game tried to tell you. I know they are aiming at getting a sequel and that is fine but you can at least tell your fans why some things are happening and not just throw it out there and hope it sticks.

I cannot believe that many of the best brutal fights are mostly made of QTE only. Like the first time you face that beast wolf and you are shooting but realizing you cant move your character as it is just a shoot button prompt. I mean come on now.

I started to enjoy the story at first but by the end I was disgusted at how it was handled and how weak and short the experience was.

There is much to love about the game in terms of future potential but this well deserves the media reviews it is getting because at the end of the day there is nothing new here except the shinny graphics and way way way to much cuts and QTE to justify $60 but I still gotta love the value this game gave me because I beat it on Hard yesterday and today took it to best buy and got 44 in credit plus a $15 I had in credit which allowed me to buy $60 in PSN cards and got home and purchased Tomb Raider for 14 and Wofenstein for 24 and Metro Redux for 25. WIn

[PhilliesFan13]

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Just finished Chapter 8 in the game and I am really enjoying it. The blimp stage was very well done I think. Starting to enjoy the shooting now as well. The game is just so damn beautiful.

To each their own with the complaints, but I have none. It's a great game. I'm also not keeping track of how many hours it takes me to get through the game. Who cares. Games are meant to be fun. Not to see how long it takes to beat it.

[daniel77733]

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If this game was not awesome looking in terms of gameplay nobody would be talking it up like am reading.

This game was a total waste of money and here is why.

The actual time you play the game is more like 5 hours. There are 16 chapters and a few of them are all cust scenese with zero controller function.

The ending was a complete joke with no resolution to anything that the game tried to tell you. I know they are aiming at getting a sequel and that is fine but you can at least tell your fans why some things are happening and not just throw it out there and hope it sticks.

I cannot believe that many of the best brutal fights are mostly made of QTE only. Like the first time you face that beast wolf and you are shooting but realizing you cant move your character as it is just a shoot button prompt. I mean come on now.

I started to enjoy the story at first but by the end I was disgusted at how it was handled and how weak and short the experience was.

There is much to love about the game in terms of future potential but this well deserves the media reviews it is getting because at the end of the day there is nothing new here except the shinny graphics and way way way to much cuts and QTE to justify $60 but I still gotta love the value this game gave me because I beat it on Hard yesterday and today took it to best buy and got 44 in credit plus a $15 I had in credit which allowed me to buy $60 in PSN cards and got home and purchased Tomb Raider for 14 and Wofenstein for 24 and Metro Redux for 25. WIn

I disagree in regards to the visuals being the only reason the game gets any praise. I'll be playing through the game a second time on 480p so I can eliminate the black bars but the reason im playing through the game a second time is because I fully enjoyed the game from start to finish. Open world games are great but few if any have as good of a story as The Order or The Last of Us or other linear games.

Don't know about you but sometimes, I want a good story based game and seeing as how so many critics and gamers love Telltale's series as well as others like it but bash The Order makes no sense to me whatsoever. I had no problem spending $60 on the game at launch as I do with nearly every game I buy unless it's a digital only game.

The ending was GREAT in my opinion because it didn't resolve everything. The Order should hopefully be a trilogy to complete the entire story. I don't want things ending in one game especially when no one game is going to include everything that want to see and play and do. And if it does, chances are it's a broken game and experience.

I wasn't a big fan of the multiple lycan fights but loved the main ones because using the QTE setup worked for it better as it's based on timing and execution. To just shoot them until they die would be a true waste of potential. Was it perfect? No but definitely good.

Sorry but no way does The Order deserve lower than a 7 especially when those other story based games get such high ratings and reviews and have LESS gameplay than what The Order has.

People are bashing The Order because it's not open world, has no extra fluff and filler, no bullcrap, no meaningless side quests which rarely if ever have anything to do with the main story, no crappy co-op or multi-player which ruins single player games in my opinion as opposed to making them better and so much more.

Is The Order perfect? Nope but no game was, is or ever will be and considering the fact that I enjoyed The Order and it's shorter gameplay than I did Watch Dogs, Mordor, Unity and FC 4 is saying a lot. Open world games are good but the majority of what's in them can easily be avoided and if you just do the story objectives, chances are you'll finish the game in under ten hours anyway. It's all the side stuff that adds more content and time playing to open world games than the main story does.

For me, im hoping for a sequel and The Order being a trilogy. Should a few things be changed/altered? Absolutely but I wouldn't change the entire direction of what the game was and is meant to be just because critics reviewed it bad and in doing so, contradicted themselves repeatedly.

As for trading it in, I will be doing the same as im not a collector regardless of the game. I stopped buying disc based games digitally after Xbox 360 simply because if anything, that's a bigger waste of money in my opinion. As for those three games you listed, Tomb Raider was an excellent game and also cinematic but to a lesser extent. Metro Last Light was good but nothing special. Just another linear FPS. Didn't play the first one though or Wolfenstein. Funny thing is that if you just progress through the story, all of those games and the majority of games nowadays can be finished in ten hours or less.

Worse part is people saying that The Order isn't worth $60 but yet, remastered or definitive editions are? Hmmmm, nope. Even worse than that is back in the SNES days, I spent $60 on Castlevania, Ghouls N Ghosts and so many others and ALL of them could be finished within five hours yet no one was complaining back then. To me, gamers nowadays just complain for the sake of complaining and expect way too much and then are disappointed because their expectations aren't met which I find hilarious because you can't control how any game is developed, what's created or how it will end up in the released product so what's the point?

In the end, you have to play the game for what it is and what it was meant to be, not what you want it to be simply because doing that will make you disappointed in the majority of games if not all of them.

[mrprice33]

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It very clearly sets up for additional games. Especially if you watch through the credits.

One of my favorite games this gen without a doubt.

Right and that's a cheap, cruddy, and cynical way to tell a story.

I understand having something larger in mind, but telling a complete story and setting up for future stories aren't exclusive ideas.

This would be like if A New Hope ended before they attacked the Death Star or something.

[mrprice33]

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I disagree in regards to the visuals being the only reason the game gets any praise. I'll be playing through the game a second time on 480p so I can eliminate the black bars but the reason im playing through the game a second time is because I fully enjoyed the game from start to finish. Open world games are great but few if any have as good of a story as The Order or The Last of Us or other linear games.

Don't know about you but sometimes, I want a good story based game and seeing as how so many critics and gamers love Telltale's series as well as others like it but bash The Order makes no sense to me whatsoever. I had no problem spending $60 on the game at launch as I do with nearly every game I buy unless it's a digital only game.

The ending was GREAT in my opinion because it didn't resolve everything. The Order should hopefully be a trilogy to complete the entire story. I don't want things ending in one game especially when no one game is going to include everything that want to see and play and do. And if it does, chances are it's a broken game and experience.

I wasn't a big fan of the multiple lycan fights but loved the main ones because using the QTE setup worked for it better as it's based on timing and execution. To just shoot them until they die would be a true waste of potential. Was it perfect? No but definitely good.

Sorry but no way does The Order deserve lower than a 7 especially when those other story based games get such high ratings and reviews and have LESS gameplay than what The Order has.

People are bashing The Order because it's not open world, has no extra fluff and filler, no bullcrap, no meaningless side quests which rarely if ever have anything to do with the main story, no crappy co-op or multi-player which ruins single player games in my opinion as opposed to making them better and so much more.

Is The Order perfect? Nope but no game was, is or ever will be and considering the fact that I enjoyed The Order and it's shorter gameplay than I did Watch Dogs, Mordor, Unity and FC 4 is saying a lot. Open world games are good but the majority of what's in them can easily be avoided and if you just do the story objectives, chances are you'll finish the game in under ten hours anyway. It's all the side stuff that adds more content and time playing to open world games than the main story does.

For me, im hoping for a sequel and The Order being a trilogy. Should a few things be changed/altered? Absolutely but I wouldn't change the entire direction of what the game was and is meant to be just because critics reviewed it bad and in doing so, contradicted themselves repeatedly.

As for trading it in, I will be doing the same as im not a collector regardless of the game. I stopped buying disc based games digitally after Xbox 360 simply because if anything, that's a bigger waste of money in my opinion. As for those three games you listed, Tomb Raider was an excellent game and also cinematic but to a lesser extent. Metro Last Light was good but nothing special. Just another linear FPS. Didn't play the first one though or Wolfenstein. Funny thing is that if you just progress through the story, all of those games and the majority of games nowadays can be finished in ten hours or less.

Worse part is people saying that The Order isn't worth $60 but yet, remastered or definitive editions are? Hmmmm, nope. Even worse than that is back in the SNES days, I spent $60 on Castlevania, Ghouls N Ghosts and so many others and ALL of them could be finished within five hours yet no one was complaining back then. To me, gamers nowadays just complain for the sake of complaining and expect way too much and then are disappointed because their expectations aren't met which I find hilarious because you can't control how any game is developed, what's created or how it will end up in the released product so what's the point?

In the end, you have to play the game for what it is and what it was meant to be, not what you want it to be simply because doing that will make you disappointed in the majority of games if not all of them.

There's a huge gulf of difference between the storytelling and character work in a season of a telltale game and what happened here. Nothing the characters do in the last half of the game makes any sense, save for Lafayette and Lakshmi, and there are these huge dangling plot threads just left out there. There's no guarantee they'll get the money to make another game, so purposely leaving out the final act of your story to set up some kind of trilogy is foolish.

Besides, even if your story is part 1 of a larger story arc, it should still be self-contained. Just look at an episode of TV: it's supposed to drive forward a larger season of TV as well as a series, but good episodes of TV still tell their own stories from beginning to end. The sloppy pacing and total disregard of Isi through the last half of this story indicates rushed or terrible plotting, not some grand scheme. There are a thousand different ways they could have ended the game properly and still left room for a sequel. They either chose not to or couldn't.

Gameplay-wise, the problems here have nothing to do with it not being open world or long enough. That's a weird canard you've created. It has to do with there being 3 basic enemy encounters in the game, repeated forever. You either have the encounter against humans, of which there are only a couple of enemy types that all have shoddy AI, you have the lycan fights which are horrendous, or you have the stealth sections that are an affront to good design, from the way the guards have no AI to the instant-fail nature of them to the timing-based takedowns (did they not playtest those?).

Oh and you have a boss fight that is a shot for shot remake of an earlier encounter, neither of which was fun at all.

What this game is meant to be is a third-person shooter with cinematic elements and interactive cutscenes. The third-person shooting is marred by the AI and encounter design, and the cinematic side of it is ruined by a half-baked, poorly edited, sloppily paced story that discards character logic halfway through and ends with absolutely no resolution

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If they kill Lucen on the airship and make Percival the half-breed that would have worked super well.

to the plot points we care about. The characters and relationships we have been building to catharsis for are cast aside for a nothing revelation about a nothing character.

Reviewers didn't make this a bad game, Sony and Ready at Dawn did.

[Thadeus]

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I need to throw out a big **** you to the developers for making the part where you need to find tesla's lab so unbelievably difficult. I'm playing on medium, and there is absolutely no way to get past the room full of enemies. I have tried 35 times. The game is over for me.

[daniel77733]

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I need to throw out a big **** you to the developers for making the part where you need to find tesla's lab so unbelievably difficult. I'm playing on medium, and there is absolutely no way to get past the room full of enemies. I have tried 35 times. The game is over for me.

I played on hard and it took me three hours worth a tries to get past that part. I had it early on but there was a shotgun guy I missed and he got me when I went back to restock on ammo.

[authentic]

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I need to throw out a big **** you to the developers for making the part where you need to find tesla's lab so unbelievably difficult. I'm playing on medium, and there is absolutely no way to get past the room full of enemies. I have tried 35 times. The game is over for me.

Use the cover system. I beat it the first time through right away, but it was very difficult. You really have to control yourself from coming out of cover when your hurting and there's a lot of enemies.

As for the ending, it's VERY clear there's going to be follow up on the story. Like another post stated, after the credits roll, it sets up either DLC or another game. Don't act like no game has ever left you wondering what the hell happened or didn't explain every detail to you.

Overall, this game was great and I will be keeping it. I'm not really too worried what other people say because I enjoyed it and for me, that's all that matters. I would highly recommend this game to a friend.

[mrprice33]

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It being setup for DLC or another game is indefensible. It's indefensible when any game does it.

It's just doubly bad here when the gameplay is also so lackluster.

[PhilliesFan13]

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Some screenshots I took.

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[headzapp]

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Just beat it on Normal, will play again on Hard.

I loved Heavy Rain, loved this more.

Can't wait for 1887.

i'd imagine it would be 1906, since they wrote the story to present time which i heard. I'm on chapter 6

[WaddupCouzin]

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In spite of all the negative reviews around the Web, I am enjoying the hell out of this game! It's a 1st time IP, so I'd like to see follow-up game in the series!