No Man's Sky

[mestevo]

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Yeah, I remember the life every planet thing being one of my assumptions that you guys pretty soundly countered w/ one of the barren planet statements, that's pretty disappointing to hear.

Providing a mechanism or shortcut to get to the center of the universe to be able to 'beat' the game kinda sounds like a significant compromise to their stated game design too.

[CubFan23]

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I think most of the hype has come from gamers and posting what they hope or think it should be. In all the videos Sean Murray put out he simply played the game and didn't really come across like he was trying to get everyone hyped up ,he never sounded like a carnival barker or used car salesman trying to hype it up to get you to buy it.

Just because the game does not meet your expectations doesn't mean it's a bad game, but some people will bash it because it's not what they thought it would or should be.

[Boltman]

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I think most of the hype has come from gamers

Just because the game does not meet your expectations doesn't mean it's a bad game, but some people will bash it because it's not what they thought it would or should be.

All your statements are correct. The hype has been fueled by the gamers and also people are going to bash it when it releases. It's a given that it'll happen, then it'll almost be like a console war type scenario across many forums lol, you'll have the people defending the game and people out to talk bad about it.

Jare's been saying that for a while now and I believed him, I could tell from all the attention this type of game was getting. This game may be the single most polarizing game on current gen consoles to be released heh. It's going to fuel a ****storm that's sure to come.

[canes21]

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I've been one of the bigger "critics" in this thread for awhile and was always questioning everything and I am still disappointed in what I have read and seen. If this game was 20 bucks I would still try it out, but after everything I have seen and read I am finding it hard to convince myself to spend $60 on it.

There has also been things that I've seen/read that did impress me or surprise me in a good way, but overall I just don't see a $60 game here.

[mestevo]

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I think most of the hype has come from gamers and posting what they hope or think it should be. In all the videos Sean Murray put out he simply played the game and didn't really come across like he was trying to get everyone hyped up ,he never sounded like a carnival barker or used car salesman trying to hype it up to get you to buy it.

Just because the game does not meet your expectations doesn't mean it's a bad game, but some people will bash it because it's not what they thought it would or should be.

The devs were never really a source of a hype for me, but 100% the source of frustration with the non-answers and vagueness of really understandable questions like multiplayer and what it took for the changes you made to a planet to not be erased as soon as you leave the atmosphere... the silence about the PC release date is just the latest example of this.

That's where my pessimism is rooted, my hype for this game (now cooled quite a bit) comes from the initial leaked footage. It's a game I'll own, but probably not for a little bit. I'll get my fix from streams and impressions and give it a try when the price is right.

[Burns11]

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I think most of the hype has come from gamers and posting what they hope or think it should be. In all the videos Sean Murray put out he simply played the game and didn't really come across like he was trying to get everyone hyped up ,he never sounded like a carnival barker or used car salesman trying to hype it up to get you to buy it.

Just because the game does not meet your expectations doesn't mean it's a bad game, but some people will bash it because it's not what they thought it would or should be.

Two things:

1. Sean Murray is part of the problem. The vast majority of games you know what you are getting because they tell you, if you give half-truths and vagueness people are going to fill in the blanks themselves. On one end of the spectrum you have Molyneux who will flat out tell you something that won't end up in the game, on the other end you have Murray who doesn't want to give you ANY information about the game. Lack of information is worse than the "carnival barker", at least the carnival barker you can ignore the hokum and know what the game will be. Murray deserves all the criticism coming to him for this situation.

2. I don't know why people do this, any criticism of a game means it's "bad" and they are "bashing" it. All the criticisms levied against the game and Murray are all justified. If you refuse to give people information and give them half-truths, then the repercussions of that lack of information and half-truths are reasonable.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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The game he was playing does not have the day one patch either that they were working on all month+, so keep that in mind.

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[Boltman]

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I am finding it hard to convince myself to spend $60 on it.

There has also been things that I've seen/read that did impress me or surprise me in a good way, but overall I just don't see a $60 game here.

I'll get my fix from streams and impressions and give it a try when the price is right.

I honestly like this game and could see myself playing it a lot, but I too am having a hard time justifying the $60 price. As I've said before I'm positive many people will get there 60 out of it and then some. Some might say it's worthy of a $80 purchase for them and I wouldn't dispute that.

But for me personally I don't initially see me paying 60 for the experience that's being offered. I will most likely get it, but maybe down the road, still unsure exactly.

#stillonthefence

[The JareBear]

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I credit Sean for doing his best throughout this process. He told us "this game isn't a space simulator," he even said in one interview that for a game like this it's impossible not to have "elements that repeat."

I think it's pretty fair how the studio itself have marketed this game. You explore and survive, and if you want to you can trade and fight along the way. You can spend most of the game in your spaceship, or most of it on foot, it's up to you. You can spend time cataloging new life or you can skip that and try killing everything if you want to. I've watched all of the E3 and IGN demos with Sean and I honestly feel he's NEVER overpromised anything. A lot of us predicted what kind game this is going to be for awhile. The answers were all there, the proof was in the pudding, the writing on the wall.

Sean definitely could have been more transparent though, I agree there.

As soon as E3 2014 hit and people saw a guy seamlessly hop in a ship, fly into space and warp across the galaxy in real time, that was a wrap. It was over. Rationality flew (literally and metaphorically) out the window. A great little indie game died and a AAA SYSTEM SELLER was born in the eyes of gamers and probably even Sony. How many people make this game, like 14? People were talking about playing as a Han Solo type smuggler or having large scale intergalactic war campaigns and I was like....uhm, maybe let's see how deep the game mechanics are first. Expecting everything to be fully fleshed out like that, for a game like this, might not be fair.

I could see people saying Sean should have been more transparent with what the game is, and not so secretive, but I don't count that as overhyping, technically. If you actually listen to what he says, and not what kotaku or gamespot writers say, I feel he really has presented a fair and honest "sales pitch" for what his game offers. Although he maybe was a little "tricky" about a few things.

The only thing I potentially have maybe a "ehh, kinda got mislead" feeling about is the whole "every experience unique, 99 percent of the game won't be discovered," pitch. On paper, they technically seems to be true, but really they just means that I could be on a planet that's identical to Bolts planet but he has tall green grass and I have medium green grass, or tall tall red grass. Or everything is the same but I have a lake where he has a mountain. A lot of the core stuff like life forms and....well stuff the eBay buyer has mentioned on Reddit (I'm trying be as generic as possible) seems like it it will be universally experienced by everyone in at least a similar fashion. Yeah, a lot of planets wont bet set foot on, but the things generated on those planets wont be THAT different from things generated on planets that were already discovered.

This game is going to get freaking smashed by some people, and applauded and celebrated by others, most likely. One persons "grind" is another persons "ideal gameplay." One persons "too many life forms" is another persons "awesome space fantasy experience." I love minecraft, I love don't starve, I love 7 days, and this game has elements of those games (no building, but the resource/survival/crafting upgrades side) on top of this beautiful universe exploration that just calls to me. Like I just see myself putting on some David Bowie (cliche, I know) and just flying around forever. Even if it is pointless, I just love being able to go wherever I want to go, freedom of exploration, that is AWESOME for me.

When I heard the game was 6gigs I was a little concerned. How much true variety can there be texture and model wise with such a small pool to generate from? There are a lot of things the eBay has said on Reddit that I think people need to know but it's not my place to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't read, I've also seen how toxic that forum has gotten and I don't want that happening here.

I'm the type of guy who when I play Skyrim, or Witcher 3, I don't fast travel. I really get immersed in the experience and want to see everything I can. That's why I love what I've seen from this game so far. While others use use a farm strategy to get to the center of the universe in one day, or give up on the game after an hour, I'm gonna be just happily plodding along trying to see everything I can, hoping to find every little secret or language decoder even if it's not vital to anything. I just like experiencing games like that. Hopping on a planet that is similar to another one I already plundered and just flying around looking for interesting POIs, digging holes here and there just to see what's beneath (cave systems look pretty cool in the ign vid), that won't get old for me.

But that's just me. This game won't be for everyone, and nobody is right or wrong for loving or hating it.

I honestly suggest that people follow the eBay buyer and just read his paper history if you arent afraid of spoilers. If you know you are buying the game and want to be as fresh as possible, don't read his comments. Otherwise, it sounds like he's being really honest over there even when the truth could hurt. Again it's just one guys opinion, so who knows.

Launch is probably going to be a crapshow and firestorm across rhe internet, luckily I know we will be safe in this "OS Bomb Shelter" from the crazy behavior of other NMS forums.

I wrote this on my iPad sorry for any typos

This post probably won't get many likes, I'm really not trying to be negative, I just think it's important to be realistic and based on one guys impressions a number of things that were feared or predicted might be the case as far expectations vs reality with this game.

For the record, I'm still pre-ordered and ready to rock on Steam. That won't change, I really think I am going to love the game

EDIT

I feel like this game probably should have been a 30 dollar title that we just found out about 6 months ago. Instead of this AAA equivalent (expectations wise) monster that we've been chomping at the bit to play for the last 2+ years. Had it just been a cool indie game that popped up on our radar recently it would probably get 9s and 10s by reviewers but I think, given what actually happened, it's gonna sit in the high 6 or low 7 range

EDIT1:

Canes21 is a guy who I feel was one of the first to look at what was being shown of the game and ask some questions, and I feel he was brave for expressing those concerns when he did and he might have been right about a few things

[The JareBear]

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I think this would kill the game if 1 in 50 planets you visit had nothing interesting. What fun is exploring a barren planet? I don't know why people would want this. Realism in this case would not be fun.

I am not sure I agree with this. Variety is KEY for a game like this, especially in longevity, and finding life IMO should have been a fun, exciting, WOW moment each time. If every single planet has life I feel that finding life just feels cheaper and a lot less cool.

I don't think it should have been so rare that it would be the equivalent of us finding aliens in real life. But every single planet? That is just a much different experience than what was promised, for me at least.

Also, just because a planet has no life does not mean that planet isnt interesting, there are still plenty of things you could find on the planet.

It just would have been cool if I found a flying spaghetti monster and it was the first time I had seen a living thing in an hour, as opposed to finding that flying spaghetti monster and its just another living thing to add to the list of nonstop living things that may or may not lack variety.

[The JareBear]

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The game he was playing does not have the day one patch either that they were working on all month+, so keep that in mind.

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Youre right, but I am just curious what all they could really change in a patch? The odds that life gets spawned? The ease of getting what it takes to warp to the center? I hope so....

I've been one of the bigger "critics" in this thread for awhile and was always questioning everything and I am still disappointed in what I have read and seen. If this game was 20 bucks I would still try it out, but after everything I have seen and read I am finding it hard to convince myself to spend $60 on it.

There has also been things that I've seen/read that did impress me or surprise me in a good way, but overall I just don't see a $60 game here.

I didnt see this before I wrote my long post just now, or I would have quoted it in there, because you were right, and you are right. You definitely saw it first

[PVarck31]

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I'm still getting the game for sure. I'm sure there will be multiple updates to improve the game. I mean in the end, its still the same game as we have seen. It's just that we thought certain things would be a certain way, but some of things aren't and this probably happens with every game.

When you think about it, there still is unlimited exploration. That was my biggest draw to the game.

And the guy who has it said he doesn't regret paying what he did for it. And that he can't wait to keep playing. So that's a good sign.

My expectations are definitely down now. But I think that will make everything cool that I find in the game that much better.

[The JareBear]

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I'm still getting the game for sure. I'm sure there will be multiple updates to improve the game. I mean in the end, its still the same game as we have seen. It's just that we thought certain things would be a certain way, but some of things aren't and this probably happens with every game.

When you think about it, there still is unlimited exploration. That was my biggest draw to the game.

And the guy who has it said he doesn't regret paying what he did for it. And that he can't wait to keep playing. So that's a good sign.

My expectations are definitely down now. But I think that will make everything cool that I find in the game that much better.

For a game like this I imagine there lots of possibilities for bugs and whatnot to pop up, I wonder what all they addressed in the Day 1 patch

[Dog]

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I am getting it day 1. I know almost nothing about the game and I'm going to keep it that way.


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[The JareBear]

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Some of the bugs the guy details really have my scratching my head. Hope that first patch is legit.

Did they do any open beta testing for this game or was it all internal QA?