No Man's Sky

[PVarck31]

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Sean Murray said that all DLC will be free. So take that for what it's worth.

[Burns11]

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Sean Murray said that all DLC will be free. So take that for what it's worth.

Lol, the jokes just write themselves on that one.

Anyway, question about warp fuel, once you upgrade your hyperspace drive does each jump still cost the same one cell or is it multiple depending on how far you go? I could test it, but don't want to jump that far.

[kingkilla56]

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I don't know how Minecraft is supported, but do you think GTA-level support is likely?



Seeing that thread is a bit upsetting. I've enjoyed the game, but I can already feel the grind a bit and it's starting to wear on me. It's alarming to see those gameplay videos from pre-release and actually experience the game now and it does suck that things turned out differently.

Minecraft updates are free. Gta online makes an insane amount of money for rockstar. Allows them to add some sizable additions to the game for no additional cost to users. Overwatch is supporting a similar model microtransaction model. Destiny as well to a smaller degree.

NMS has no microtransactions that I know of. So if they plan to release free dlc through the life of the game, then good on them. That is a very significant thing in deciding to buy and stick with NMS.

PC modders will make NMS incredible on that platform. Hopefully Hellogames will be able to support mods on console like Bethesda has started with their titles.

[mgoblue]

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I read an article earlier where Sean said they may have paid DLC if they can't do free...I can try to find a link tomorrow....he is just a dreamer IMO...

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[Burns11]

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Found an interesting system

See all those large asteroids? Gold. Place was filthy with them, there weren't any small asteroids, it was all massive chunks of gold.

Here is a video of me entering a system and seeing a distress signal, took me a while to figure out WTF was going on, all the ships looked like the normal trading ships and nobody was aggro to me. Couple of mistakes in there, but I came out fine.
<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/w8jmcZeD80Y?vq=hd1080" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

BTW, in the beginning, I think that was actually me shooting (hit the wrong button I guess, if it was an enemy it wouldn't have let me fly away like that), but I've noticed it sometimes shoots me instead of shooting out. Anybody else having this happen occasionally?

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Difference between Molyneux and Murray when they announce a game on stage:

Peter Molyneux: "Hey everyone, check out my game, you can do anything and everything."
Gamers: "That's amazing."

Sean Murray: "Hey everyone, check out my game."
Gamers: "You can do anything, and everything."
Gamers: "That's amazing!"

People who have been following the game and seeing how the community overhyped it more than the developer will get this reference. We have only ourselves to blame for the hype machine. As an example, I seen him say one vague sentence or a vague answer early on (he is a programmer, lol), and the gaming community will run with it in an insane fashion of interpretation.

Now with that said, he is not excused from constructive criticism on how he handled it. Once the dust settles, I am sure we will get an interview or 12.

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[kingkilla56]

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Beating a dead horse.

[ExtremeGamer]

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I don't get something. If you like the game. Why are some of you actively seeking out reasons not to? Reading reviews, scouring Reddit posts, reading Twitter complaints, etc. I'm loving the game. Haven't seen a single review and unsubscribed from the Reddit group over a week ago. Just enjoy the game and stop worrying about others opinions. They are only there to ruin your own.


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[Vni]

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Haven't tryed it but that toggle Hud mod should be pretty sweet. clic

Btw is there a free look key while in the ship on PC that I didn't find like they have on console with one of the sticks ?

[Armor and Sword]

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I don't get something. If you like the game. Why are some of you actively seeking out reasons not to? Reading reviews, scouring Reddit posts, reading Twitter complaints, etc. I'm loving the game. Haven't seen a single review and unsubscribed from the Reddit group over a week ago. Just enjoy the game and stop worrying about others opinions. They are only there to ruin your own.


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Same approach I have with games. I play them and form my own opinion of them. I love coming here to discuss and exchange thoughts and opinions. But what I don't get caught up in, is trying to convince someone it is good or bad. If you think it sucks....no problem.

But don't try to convince me it does. I like/love it...you don't...have a nice day. I really try to stay away from argumentative posting and back and forth agenda posting. I mean why would someone stay in a thread for game they do not enjoy or despise? Ok you said it stinks.....go away.....go to the cesspool of Reddit threads dedicated to the chaos of ripping games, game developers and being psychotic.

I love to engage in conversation with like minded people who are enjoying the game and we can share our stories, adventures etc with the game.

All I really care about is my enjoyment of the game. When it comes to sports games it's my pleasure to share my settings with people who have a similar "mindset" and "approach" to the game and want to have "potentially" a solid simulation experience. If it works for you....awesome. If it does not...move on.

[PPerfect_CJ]

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I can't stand when I see people bashing game developers on twitter and other social media. If I don't like a game, I will complain but won't attack anyone who worked hard to make it.

Unless it's FIFA, because we've tried to help them with our suggestions and they just ignore it and spit out the same FUT-focused game every year with no fixes for bugs that have existed forever and no concern for our beloved Manager Mode. THOSE people kind of deserve it. But, this is about No Man's Sky, so I digress. Lol! Still gonna wait on a price drop, but will definitely be picking it up later thanks to you guys and your adventures.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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I don't get something. If you like the game. Why are some of you actively seeking out reasons not to? Reading reviews, scouring Reddit posts, reading Twitter complaints, etc. I'm loving the game. Haven't seen a single review and unsubscribed from the Reddit group over a week ago. Just enjoy the game and stop worrying about others opinions. They are only there to ruin your own.


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WALL OF TEXT INCOMING...

Bingo. I have not clicked on it myself, but if it is some of a list (which I believe it is) I seen in another place last week, then a lot of the list is construed without concrete facts due to a myriad of reasons and is only serving the confirmation bias camp until it is actually detailed from HG (if that ever happens).

I too am loving the game. Hell, I can't remember the last time I read a review, had to be more than 10+ years ago. I am my own judge. If I like it, I like it, if I don't, well my bad for getting it, it is a lotto. If I listened to half the internets opinions, I would have missed out on a LOT of gems over the years gaming. I guess for me personally, when you been at it long enough, you tend to just want to pick up a game and play it (or let it sit on a shelf of backlogs, lol).

A lot of those types of threads, etc., just serve the confirmation bias as I mentioned earlier, fueling more hatred than their supposed intent of constructive feedback. Gives the haters a place to pile on.

We just went from, "What do you do?" up until release, to utmost experts on "Sean said"? To be frank, he was vague about the game's systems. He did not overhype (which I do not understand that one saying HE did), in fact, has been crucified for being too humble/vague and not detailing what people were digging for. He is a programmer, not a PR guy. A lot of them either speak in code, or are adamant to protect their code. (You ever try to understand **** that Carmack says over the 20+ years? Of course not, but you know it will be cool.)

The man even admitted this game would be polarizing. There will be those who just want to explore, and have a ton of discovery themselves in the game (no hand holding)... and then there will be those who will dislike that, and want to know everything in detail along the way. I am enjoying the former, because it reminds me of gaming in the 80's on the C64/etc., but now with the added flavor of threads like this, communities, built around helping one another with tips along our personal adventures.

We are a nature of our own hype more often than not, especially with this game. When I made the post above, it was tongue in cheek (I think the Molyneux comparisons people are touting are BS) stands to be true in a sense. We manufactured what we thought the systems would be in the game, much like we do in all facets of life. Take Batman Vs. Superman for instance. This happens a lot with movies (for obvious reasons of script/plot protection). People have an idea of how things should be, or what they are going to be, then those who go overboard in their minds; are left disappointed... the devs (directors) later patch (add the deleted scenes) to the movie, and all is forgiven, and "this is so much better now." Those who did not hype up themselves with ideas, enjoyed the Theatrical Cut, and the Director's even more so.

The only thing he was 'guilty' of is not detailing, and that was his choice, because he appeared to want the mystique. The 'use your imagination' and 'choose your own adventure', 'self discovery' is my belief. Yet we again, go from, "What do you do?", where even those of us who followed for 3 years, could not really 'explain', we would just show videos and say 'do what you want', to "Sean is a dirty liar, here is a one answer sentence which confirms (inserts assumptions and opinions on what you as a person thought it should have been, but never actually detailed by the developer himself)."

Just like the whole 'seeing another player'. This has yet to be disproven. He did mention he would want it like Journey in a way (but the chances would be far more remote to run into someone), or LOST where Jack saw his dad off in the distance and did a double take and he was gone. That does NOT sound like a system you can manipulate and/or coordinate to meet up with someone on party chat because you happened to luck into the same or near 'star system' (due to server checks being hit day one I assume)... rather, it sounds like a system of chance due to a 'rule check' algorithm. Hence why they added the 'scan for other players' feature, which I believe is one of the rule checks tied to it.

But again, people like to think they know how the game or system works (when it was never detailed) now, yet the day before launch, "What do you do?"



/endrant

And I am loving every second I am in the game. Only thing I really dislike about it at the moment, is that I get so absorbed in the chill, time flies and I get less sleep at night as a result.

[Burns11]

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I see no difference between Molyneux and Murray. They both talked big game about what their game was supposed to include, and failed to include everything. That's point for point the same. It's not all in people's heads, he said things were in the game that 100% are not. Those are facts. Just because he didn't explain everything, doesn't make the things he did say suddenly not count.

Just because you like a thing, doesn't invalidate any negative opinions of the thing. It also doesn't mean that people are wrong about Murray, no matter how much you want to ignore any evidence of that.

[mgoblue]

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I see no difference between Molyneux and Murray. They both talked big game about what their game was supposed to include, and failed to include everything. That's point for point the same. It's not all in people's heads, he said things were in the game that 100% are not. Those are facts. Just because he didn't explain everything, doesn't make the things he did say suddenly not count.

Just because you like a thing, doesn't invalidate any negative opinions of the thing. It also doesn't mean that people are wrong about Murray, no matter how much you want to ignore any evidence of that.

I see the difference, but also feel that Sean could have communicated better to truly inform gamers.

I'm also investigating this because to run this game I'd have to invest in a $300 graphics card for my PC, and not really sure if it's a good investment at the moment.

I've also been drawn in my all the media and wonder this game put out beforehand, so wanted to see if it delivered. Sounds fun but limited so far, but great if you just want to chill. DLC should introduce more depth I'd think.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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I see no difference between Molyneux and Murray. They both talked big game about what their game was supposed to include, and failed to include everything. That's point for point the same. It's not all in people's heads, he said things were in the game that 100% are not. Those are facts. Just because he didn't explain everything, doesn't make the things he did say suddenly not count.

Just because you like a thing, doesn't invalidate any negative opinions of the thing. It also doesn't mean that people are wrong about Murray, no matter how much you want to ignore any evidence of that.

There are definitely differences. Molyneux made a career out of it (with a big first party budget/team mind you). Delivered completely different games than revealed. This is not a completely different game. Yet, 'what do you do?'

There are a few things that were not detailed, and appear not in (yet?), however, a lot of the other things are in, just not to what people were hoping them to be. And there are also things on that list that have yet to be proven/disproven with 18 quintillion planets out there. "I have not seen the brontosaurus, therefore, it does not exist." Huh?

It is a disingenuous comparison at best when you consider all of the factors, and not just isolated 'bullet points'.

If he becomes a repeat offender, then make the comparison. Even the Molyneux Effect was not what it was until he himself repeated a few times as well.

And man, reading some of those posts on both Reddit and NeoGAF, you would think people are patron saints. A lot do go way overboard and out of their way to flat out stifle every 'middle ground' conversation that pops up. I seen them piling on those people and bullying them out of the threads. But no, no agendas or anything. Staying away from those sites for a while. Very toxic.

Constructive criticism = good... yet it will be drowned in the sea of vitriol.