Batman: Arkham Knight

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: Batman: Arkham Knight

Is this really an RPG though?? I see it as action adventure. In a RPG you have more control over story elements, and your decisions have a lasting affect. This game is linear, until its not when you can choose your own side mission. THE story you get to tell is in what sequence of events you will complete a side mission. That's NOT an RPG.

If upgrades make this an RPG, than is Destiny a RPG???

What you've described is not an RPG, what effects do you have on the story of a Final Fantasy game?

[DieHardYankee26]

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This is my favorite quote from you too because of how I can't even fathom why you'd even make this statement at all. So a game with a complex XP based upgrade system - one which you have to use in order to beat the game (for example, the drone tank battles labeled "extreme" are impossible to beat without upgrading the Batmobile), one that forces upgrades upon the player to finish the game to completion, isn't by all intents and purposes an RPG?

Consider the Riddler trophies. You literally cannot complete all of them without certain upgrades and sealed-off-to-story-progression equipment. Which again, means I'll have to backtrack later. How can anyone consider that fun?

I should never be forced to 100% a game with over 300 activities to see the game to completion. Not when that content is arbitrarily sealed off, mostly has no story, and requires specific pieces of equipment I may or may not have at certain points in time.

Ummm...no lol, it's not an RPG. An upgrade system doesn't make a game an RPG, the other Arkham games weren't RPG's, Dying Light isn't an RPG, MLB The Show isn't an RPG, nor is God of War. Almost any action game will have an upgrade system to give you better moves, attacks, and make you more powerful as you push through the game. Shadow of Mordor had one, it also wasn't an RPG.

[mestevo]

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Railing against 'backtracking' in a game that has you bouncing all over the city... are you even playing?

Edit: ah, you quit, got it.

[Bullit]

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Ummm...no lol, it's not an RPG. An upgrade system doesn't make a game an RPG, the other Arkham games weren't RPG's, Dying Light isn't an RPG, MLB The Show isn't an RPG, nor is God of War. Almost any action game will have an upgrade system to give you better moves, attacks, and make you more powerful as you push through the game. Shadow of Mordor had one, it also wasn't an RPG.

Just curious then at what you consider to be an RPG then in this day an age? Do you play RPG's and if so what games are you considering to be RPG's?

This is not meant to be argumentative, I really am just curious as to what other people consider to be RPG's. I pretty much only play what I consider RPG's and sports titles. With exception to what people are calling action games now,which to me is still a branch of RPG games.

[jeebs9]

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I consider a RPG to be anything that plays like Pokemon.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Just curious then at what you consider to be an RPG then in this day an age? Do you play RPG's and if so what games are you considering to be RPG's?

This is not meant to be argumentative, I really am just curious as to what other people consider to be RPG's. I pretty much only play what I consider RPG's and sports titles. With exception to what people are calling action games now,which to me is still a branch of RPG games.

I consider a RPG to be anything that plays like Pokemon.

This is a part of it. There's JRPG's (Final Fantasy, Persona, Pokemon) and then Western RPG's. Western RPG's are mostly huge open world games or ones where you directly impact the plot. Basically you've got your Witcher, Elder Scrolls, Fallouts and you've got your Mass Effect, Dragon Ages, etc.

Batman is just an action game with an upgrade system. It is in no way other than that RPG like. A surefire way to tell an RPG is to see whether people say it plays like **** but has great lore lol. The time CDPR and Bethesda spend cooking up an amazing world with tons of possibilities and a unique experience per user, Rocksteady puts that time into making sure the experience that they made feels as good as it can. Not that all RPG's play like ****, just most of them and even in series when they fix up the gameplay it is often considered at the expense of the game's RPG elements (Mass Effect).

[daniel77733]

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Just curious then at what you consider to be an RPG then in this day an age? Do you play RPG's and if so what games are you considering to be RPG's?

This is not meant to be argumentative, I really am just curious as to what other people consider to be RPG's. I pretty much only play what I consider RPG's and sports titles. With exception to what people are calling action games now,which to me is still a branch of RPG games.

For me personally, I consider a game like The Witcher 3 to be a hack and slash action real time battle RPG. In other words, a WRPG. I know that my use of the terms are different but I consider these WRPG's and turn based to be JRPG's mainly due to the SNES, Saturn and PSone eras. I know it goes based on where the game's development originates from but that's not how I look at it. Also, one other major factor is the length of the game - while there are shorter RPG's, the majority of them usually get to 100 hours or more.

A game like Batman Arkham Knight is a third person action adventure game with RPG elements but I personally do not consider it to be an actual RPG. One argument that I always have is in regards to the Mass Effect series. People tend to say that it's an RPG. To me, it's a third person sci-fi shooter with RPG elements. Nothing more, nothing less.

Compared to what it used to be back in the SNES, PS one and Saturn eras, it seems like every game gets classified as an RPG just because it has certain elements that are known in actual RPG's. A game like Far Cry for example has RPG elements in it but at it's core, it's a first person action adventure shooter.

In the end, I think that everyone has their own opinion as to what they believe is an RPG.

[Candyman5]

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The big tank mission at the end where there is 7 of them is just killing this game for me. I have a long holiday weekend with nothing to do and I can't even play this game bc i have already spent close to 2 hours trying to beat it. It's singly handly enough for me to tell people not to buy this game

It's not that hard. Just be patient and get the upgrade point that makes your shot hit location attract the tank.

[georgiafan]

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It's not that hard. Just be patient and get the upgrade point that makes your shot hit location attract the tank.

I will have to look into getting that I have one point upgrading I've been holding on. I'm really bad at driving in video games so that hurts me.

[jmurphy31]

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If you complete the main story can you go back and collect all the riddler trophies and finish all the side missions to get to 100% or do you have to do it all in new story +. I'm pretty close to finishing but I want to get 100% at some point.

[Jano]

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If you complete the main story can you go back and collect all the riddler trophies and finish all the side missions to get to 100% or do you have to do it all in new story +. I'm pretty close to finishing but I want to get 100% at some point.

Yep you can!

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[jmurphy31]

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Yep you can!

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Thanks man. I've been enjoying the side stuff and the main story, but unless a trophy or riddle pops up I haven't been searching.

[Jano]

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Thanks man. I've been enjoying the side stuff and the main story, but unless a trophy or riddle pops up I haven't been searching.

I was the same way. Kind of wish I left some of the side missions unfinished before I finished the game.

I loved scanning the world for thugs to destroy lol.

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[Fresh Tendrils]

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All I have left is Riddler. Having characters come back from AC was really nice.

AO is the only one I haven't completed fully, but that first Deathstroke encounter was awesome. I was a bit disappointed that his encounter in this one was a copy and paste of Arkham Knight's.

The final gameplay to the main story was amazing, though. From a gameplay and level design perspective Rocksteady nailed this series. I think the problems with this game are the same problems from the previous ones. AA benefits from a smaller, more contained narrative and cast. AC goes for the bigger is better angle with mixed results. AK dials down the main story significantly, but the Batmobile emphasis hurts it slightly.

I still had plenty of fun with the game and the series as a whole. The actual gameplay is smooth and satisfying. My only problems lie on the narrative side.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I can't for the life of me figure out why Rocksteady didn't bring over some of the dudes who did the boss fights in Origins. My biggest complaint with this game was that bringing Deathstroke in the way they did was awful, him and the Arkham Knight should've had awesome 1 on 1 duels (I mean with Batman and not each other if this wasn't clear lol).