Women

[ODogg]

Re: Women

I will check this show out. I have beyond no game. I have a negative game LOL. I'm told two things that I'm most interested in are a couple of the reasons, politics and sports. So yeah i'm already handicapped in that respect. Then the fact that i'm overweight and middle-aged is not exactly appealing either. So thanks for the heads up, I can use all the help I can get!

[daflyboys]

Re: Women

Pfft.

A good wing man should be single, and willing to **** the fat chick that the hot girl your buddy is trying to score with brought along with her.

Sounds more like a masochist than a wing man!

[countryboy]

Re: Women

Pfft.

A good wing man should be single, and willing to **** the fat chick that the hot girl your buddy is trying to score with brought along with her.

I lost a wingman once...... he just had to let her cover him in chocolate syrup.... poor bastard.

[Village Idiot]

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I just think it's funny that some people are under the impression that this stuff is a "magic bullet" to landing your ideal woman. That's like saying, "Here's LaDanian Tomlinson's offseason workout, now you can be just like him!" There's so much work required between getting that information and being able to reach a goal that it's not even funny. It definately gives you the tracks to walk down, but you've still got to walk.

Well the only thing I'd disagree with here (mostly, I think your attitude is right on point) is that we're not necessarily talking about landing an 'ideal woman'. Mostly, the idea is just about getting phone numbers (or email addresses) and, more importantly, getting laid. The main thing this sort of stuff teaches is that you don't have to limit yourself to hogs, dogs and sluts; that you don't have to be intimidated talking to women, even if they're hot; and that you don't have to look like Brad Pitt or have a body like an NFL running back to do well with the ladies. It's that psychological edge that a lot of guys are missing, and from what I've read, this stuff seems to at least provide, as you mentioned, a step in the right direction.

[Graphik]

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These dudes offer great advice and so do the numerous articles and books that are found throughout the net. One thing that nobody seems to want to touch on is after getting your "ideal" woman, how to keep her. Or better yet, how to maintain a relationship without her getting bored or finding out that you were full of **** to begin with.

After some helpful advice through reading, I have no problem talking to or picking up ladies. Like others have mentioned, confidence is key...being a challenge or being the 'prize' is also great advice on picking up women. But what happens down the road is the frightening part. What about 2 weeks later after you're involved with this woman? What about 2 months later? Its hard to keep a interested for long periods of time without some type of mystique and facade that will eventually fade away after you've become comfortable which is inevitable.

After a while, you'll eventually have to be yourself and your true self might not be all that appealing as was the person who picked up that ideal woman to begin with. So whats the secret? This is what I'm interested in more than anything. These guys are masters of attracting and picking up women but I'd bet they cant stay in a serious relationship. Maybe they dont care for doing so since their skills are primarily meeting new women. Dont be fooled though, the art of picking up that hot chick is one that is only the first step in finding a great or ideal woman. Keeping her is much more tricky and IMO is much more tough than your first interactions.

Women can usually see through a guys BS after so long so the answer for me is consistency. If you can stay consistent with your attitude, confidence and way of thinking since that initial first impression then you may have a shot at keeping that woman. Its a tougher practice. Much tougher than walking up to a woman and making her interested by first impression. My entire point is this: these guys may teach you how to get that great woman, maybe even get her in the sack but beware, there is much more to know than one would think. So dont get caught up trying to be someone you're not only to end up being dumped or played because that initial boost of confidence landed you 'that girl' but your real self stepped out and ran her off. Stay consistent.

Of course, all of this is void if you're just a simple womanizer who's goal is to add as many notches to your belt before you pass. If so, by all means, knock yourself out.

[mgoblue]

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Graphik hit the nail on the head! Nicely done.

I highly recommend any of these people read "The Game" by Neil Strauss first, before becoming a full out pick up artist. It's a pretty lonely existence once you realize life is more than banging as many girls as you can. Does it work? Sure! Just make sure that's the kind of life you want to have. I personally wouldn't want to be Mystery at all...seems like it would suck, having all those acquaintances but no real friends you can trust.

[Beantown]

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Sounds more like a masochist than a wing man!

One in the same, usually.

[bullcats]

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Graphik hit the nail on the head! Nicely done.

I highly recommend any of these people read "The Game" by Neil Strauss first, before becoming a full out pick up artist. It's a pretty lonely existence once you realize life is more than banging as many girls as you can. Does it work? Sure! Just make sure that's the kind of life you want to have. I personally wouldn't want to be Mystery at all...seems like it would suck, having all those acquaintances but no real friends you can trust.

I agree with what your saying here, but for someone like myself who has trouble approching women I could this information as a tool to find and get with a girl I like. I am not out to add countless notches on my bedpost, but merely find a women I am interested in and be able to talk to her without sounding like a buffon.

[Graphik]

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I agree with what your saying here, but for someone like myself who has trouble approching women I could this information as a tool to find and get with a girl I like. I am not out to add countless notches on my bedpost, but merely find a women I am interested in and be able to talk to her without sounding like a buffon.

But dont sacrifice your true self in order to get that woman. What you may need help in is the confidence department. You can stay yourself and still remain confident and cocky enough to pick up the woman you're interested in. Its tricky but with enough practice it can be done. One thing that helped me out immensely is talking to just about any woman, period. Women that you may not be attracted to, women that may be much older than you, women that you have no real desire to know, etc. Just become comfortable talking to the opposite sex and when you do find that someone, you'll know how to act without being someone you're not. Once you start doing this, you'll start to notice what attracts a woman in the first place.

Its easy to get choked up when you do want to actually pick up a girl you're interested in but with enough random practicing, it'll make that comfrontation much easier to handle when the time comes.

[mgoblue]

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But dont sacrifice your true self in order to get that woman. What you may need help in is the confidence department. You can stay yourself and still remain confident and cocky enough to pick up the woman you're interested in. Its tricky but with enough practice it can be done. One thing that helped me out immensely is talking to just about any woman, period. Women that you may not be attracted to, women that may be much older than you, women that you have no real desire to know, etc. Just become comfortable talking to the opposite sex and when you do find that someone, you'll know how to act without being someone you're not. Once you start doing this, you'll start to notice what attracts a woman in the first place.

Its easy to get choked up when you do want to actually pick up a girl you're interested in but with enough random practicing, it'll make that comfrontation much easier to handle when the time comes.

I agree. I understand that a lot of guys need to learn and exude confidence, but a lot of what these pick up artists teach you is tricks/skills, which is somewhat different. I guess IMO there's a difference between having a backbone and being confident vs. running "game".

[Graphik]

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I agree. I understand that a lot of guys need to learn and exude confidence, but a lot of what these pick up artists teach you is tricks/skills, which is somewhat different. I guess IMO there's a difference between having a backbone and being confident vs. running "game".

Running game is quite simple. It just consist of telling a woman everything she wants to hear. Which is what these guys are masters of. I'm not knocking them cause if you're into collecting a stable of women, their route is definitely the way to go but for those who want to find the ideal woman, being true to yourself and learning to have confidence is a better approach.

What I like to do is look at it from a ****** perspective. I'm sure many men wouldn't mind being used for sex as much as women are but in the end, you'll feel used, loney and more than likely insecure with yourself because you wont be able to trust anything a woman does tell you. Its the reason why there are so many insecure types out there now. They're so used to guys running game on them and being used that they cant tell the difference between a guy who's being sincere vs a guy who's running game. As a man, you may think that being used for sex may be appealing but what'll happen when you actually fall for someone? You wont trust them.

[Lintyfresh85]

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I agree with Graphic here... it's not that hard to pick up girls... it's the keeping her interested months later part that is the tough part. Must be why most of my relationships only last about 3 months... I just can't figure out how to keep things interesting.

[Herbsinator]

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I have no problem talking to girls at all...its just that I get stuck in cuddle bitch mode. I just need to work on making my self the "prize" more.

[Dallasin2K3]

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I highly recommend any of these people read "The Game" by Neil Strauss first, before becoming a full out pick up artist. It's a pretty lonely existence once you realize life is more than banging as many girls as you can. Does it work? Sure! Just make sure that's the kind of life you want to have. I personally wouldn't want to be Mystery at all...seems like it would suck, having all those acquaintances but no real friends you can trust.

Let me interject here and say that I also believe that this "material" is legitimate even in that light. This stuff CAN be about banging as many chicks as possible, or it can be about finding that one girl that you want to settle down with. It's all in how you use it. I met my girlfriend when I was out in "the field" running a "routine" at a "bar/nightclub" on "multiple sets". All the lame jargon crap and everything. The whole bit. In normal terms, I met her when I was out one weekend trying to pick up chicks. I can't say I went out that night to meet someone to settle down with, but I played the game and that is the route I took it. I can't guarantee I would have met her if I wasn't out that night doing that.

It's all in how you use it. At its most fundamental level, though, I believe this stuff is about helping guys interact with women. It's not "bad". It doesn't have to be about banging as many chicks as possible. It is what you make of it.

I think Graphik has a good point in that being true to yourself and what you want and being confident with that is the key. But that can be harder than it sounds and sometimes the lines between that and "game", or wading through all of the biologically-ingrained gender games, can be blurred. Sometimes you have to play the game just to get the chance to be real with someone.

[ODogg]

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Running game is quite simple. It just consist of telling a woman everything she wants to hear. Which is what these guys are masters of. I'm not knocking them cause if you're into collecting a stable of women, their route is definitely the way to go but for those who want to find the ideal woman

Ideal woman? I'd just like to find one that is breathing and not 500 pounds. LOL.