Women

[cjonesfan921]

Re: Women

Ahh...the infamous cubble-bitch role. I love this topic so much cause I used to be one till I found out what the problem was. There are various reasons why a guy enters the friend zone. Some examples: you're to availible, you're scared to say no a girl, you open up to quickly, you're scared to make a first move....this list can go on and on.

One thing I've learned from reading various articles is to: "give a little and take it back". What that means is you give a chick only so much of you then in an instant, you step back and become mysterious and unpredictable again.

The second you beome predictable, especially during the early stages of a relationship, is the second when she'll lose interest. For instance, when she calls, do you always pick up the phone? Do you always call her at the same times every night? Do you constantly listen to how her day went but she could care less about yours? Do you listen attentively while she rants about other guys she knows? Do you bend over backwards whenever she asks for a favor?

If the answer is yes to more than one then you may be heading towards the friend-zone.

In order to give a little and take it back, for instance, when she calls, you know you're not doing anything, you know you're bored tryna beat that creature with the bats flying around on Gears, you know that the rest of your day will be filled with catching up to episodes of Grey's Anatomy, whatever you do, dont answer the phone! Let her mind wonder as she calls and hears a voice mail. All the time thinking of possible things you could be doing. All the time wondering if you're talking to somebody else. Are you out with somebody else. Hmmm.....

I know you want nothing more than to hear her sweet voice. In fact, you've been thinking of it all day. But when she calls, you let the phone ring. Looking at the name on your caller id. Now you've got her where you want her. Thinking of you. Of course this can all backfire and she could just go down to another guy on her list. .....anyway. Call back later that evening and she'll be anxious to know what you were up to. But dont tell her right away!! Let her ask. She wont ask off bat but she will eventually inquire about your whereabouts. If she does this, your attraction is still there.

If you always answer every time she calls. Sometimes with nothing to talk about...you'll induce boredome. Before you know it, you're a predictable sap and she feels that she can call and talk to you whenever SHE wants you. Turn the tables and make her want you....right when she cant have you.

My lady tried to turn me into a cuddle-bitch a few times. But I always prevailed. She'd call me up sometimes and ask for a favor. Whether you know it or not, its like a test to see if you'll do whatever she asks. So she'd ask for a favor and to tell the truth, yes, I did it. But right when she thinks she's found a friend in me, I'd switch back into mysterious mode. Next day she'd call and I'd be unavailible. Whether through not answering or answering and telling her I'm busy. Right then and there, I won my attraction back.

Most guys make the mistake by thinking that if a chick asks you for a favor and you do it, you're earning some brownie points and she likes you even more when you do it. All you're doing actually is making yourself look desperate to please her and she'll catch on immediately. Another way to turn the tables is to ask her for a favor in return. See if she'll do it. That way you're not looking as pansy as the guy who asks for nothing in return.

Pretty much what me and AP have said. That is the "secret" right there. Make her want you. This brings me back to the main article, make you the "prize". I can't stress how important that don't pick up the phone thing is. My cousin almost never picks up when his girl, soon to be fiancee, calls. She then harasses me with texats/ims to see if i know where he is. It's freaking crazy.

[Altimus]

Re: Women

She then harasses me with texats/ims to see if i know where he is. It's freaking crazy.

Same thing happens with me. My girl calls my best friend and if I'm with him I try not to crack up. LOL

EDIT:

But seriously though, that's what you got to do. I have this other buddy, we were playing Madden and the COD 4 beta at his house yesterday and during 3 hours his GF called him 3 times. I was like WTF dude.

[JohnnytheSkin]

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This whole topic cracks me up...some of you guys are just too analytical. Be yourself, if a girl doesn't want that, too bad. Don't put on a dog and pony show trying to net some chick out of your league or who you aren't interested. If you wear Crocs (GAG! ) then don't wear penny loafers to try and pick up someone.

I never had any problems, and in fact, trying to act like someone you aren't hurt more than it helped. If you like the chick and get in the friends zone, accept it or move on. Hell, an advice girl "friend" is probably much better than OS.

Then again, what do I know...I have my "sugar mama" or whatever the chaps here endearingly call my wife. I could just be blowing smoke.

[BaseballCtchr]

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You know what the real problem is...I cant read signs worth a damn! You walk away and your buddy says something like I think she was into you and you missed it during the whole thing. Or try this one, I cant remember names and faces at all. There are people that now two years removed from High School and I cant remember that I ever went to school with them. Same for college just too many things to remember. I can meet someone on week and the next I have dont remember I ever did much less their name. Wear a name tag or something???

Oh well! I still love the chase.

[JohnnytheSkin]

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I'm lucky that my memory is photographic with names and faces. I'd run into chicks from middle school at other colleges and be able to chat them up. Heck, even now when I'm back in Colorado I'll the folks that have done nothing with their lives at the grocery store and have a conversation, LOL!

[Beantown]

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This whole topic cracks me up...some of you guys are just too analytical. Be yourself, if a girl doesn't want that, too bad. Don't put on a dog and pony show trying to net some chick out of your league or who you aren't interested. If you wear Crocs (GAG! ) then don't wear penny loafers to try and pick up someone.

I never had any problems, and in fact, trying to act like someone you aren't hurt more than it helped. If you like the chick and get in the friends zone, accept it or move on. Hell, an advice girl "friend" is probably much better than OS.

Then again, what do I know...I have my "sugar mama" or whatever the chaps here endearingly call my wife. I could just be blowing smoke.

Yeah, you don't count. Your woman pays for everything so you're not even a man anymore.

[JohnnytheSkin]

Re: Women

Yeah, you don't count. Your woman pays for everything so you're not even a man anymore.

I'm not the only stay-at-home dad on here, you know...

[CMH]

Re: Women

Yea, the nice guy bit has definitely ruined many, many opportunities for me. I'm aware of it and girl by girl I'm throwing off the stigma. It's just taking time because the previous mistakes have every now and then thrown me into a frenzy. I hit a rough end and start thinking it's always like this and then don't talk to the girls that would be interested if I at least tried.

I go into these spurts where there will be a few girls interested and more times that not I'll mess it up. Sometimes I'll just forget about them completely (this usually only happens to the ones I never really liked to begin with) or I'll just try too hard to get them to like me and it ends up being more like a friendship thing.

The terrible part about it is I'm trying to get a girl that already likes me to like me. It's a positive with a negative and that always equals a negative. It's a bad move and I constantly do it because I'm an idiot.

Confidence with girls is not a problem. I can talk to any girl without a problem. That doesn't mean I'll talk to every girl, though. I'll see a pretty girl walk by on the street and won't say anything to her. I don't think of it as a lack of confidence. Instead, I'm not really into getting girls that way.

I have never had a problem getting a girl to laugh and be comfortable with me. The major issue is I get them too comfortable before I make a move and then it becomes too late.

Good topic that comes at a perfect time for me because there is a girl that I'm going to ask out that I just met. I worked with her on set of a short film, asked for her number, and called her two weeks later and left a message. She called me back but I was busy and told her I'll give her a call later (I was actually really busy but I could have definitely dropped what I was doing. Guess it was a good idea that I didn't). Well, it turns out that she was just around the block from where I was and she called me to tell me that she was going to my school to meet the director of the short film she was in. I happened to be busy with that director. So I saw her but I only said hi because I was busy. I told her I'll call her that night but didn't. I called her today and left a brief message instead saying that I didn't call because I got caught up.

So in some ways my actual lack of time is working hand-in-hand with the advice being given in this thread. I guess if I'm paying attention I should ignore her phone call when she calls me back. Then she'll wonder why I'm never available. Heck, I'm not even available when she's sitting in front of my face.

[Altimus]

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I'm not the only stay-at-home dad on here, you know...

You better watch out Longhorn. All the stay-at-home dads are going to gang up and get you on GRAW or RB6.

But there ain't nothing wrong with that. Johnny's the man.

[Dallasin2K3]

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This whole topic cracks me up...some of you guys are just too analytical. Be yourself, if a girl doesn't want that, too bad. Don't put on a dog and pony show trying to net some chick out of your league or who you aren't interested. If you wear Crocs (GAG! ) then don't wear penny loafers to try and pick up someone.

Keep doing what you've always done and you'll get what you've always gotten.

[Briman123]

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Yea, the nice guy bit has definitely ruined many, many opportunities for me. I'm aware of it and girl by girl I'm throwing off the stigma. It's just taking time because the previous mistakes have every now and then thrown me into a frenzy. I hit a rough end and start thinking it's always like this and then don't talk to the girls that would be interested if I at least tried.

I go into these spurts where there will be a few girls interested and more times that not I'll mess it up. Sometimes I'll just forget about them completely (this usually only happens to the ones I never really liked to begin with) or I'll just try too hard to get them to like me and it ends up being more like a friendship thing.

The terrible part about it is I'm trying to get a girl that already likes me to like me. It's a positive with a negative and that always equals a negative. It's a bad move and I constantly do it because I'm an idiot.

Confidence with girls is not a problem. I can talk to any girl without a problem. That doesn't mean I'll talk to every girl, though. I'll see a pretty girl walk by on the street and won't say anything to her. I don't think of it as a lack of confidence. Instead, I'm not really into getting girls that way.

I have never had a problem getting a girl to laugh and be comfortable with me. The major issue is I get them too comfortable before I make a move and then it becomes too late.

Good topic that comes at a perfect time for me because there is a girl that I'm going to ask out that I just met. I worked with her on set of a short film, asked for her number, and called her two weeks later and left a message. She called me back but I was busy and told her I'll give her a call later (I was actually really busy but I could have definitely dropped what I was doing. Guess it was a good idea that I didn't). Well, it turns out that she was just around the block from where I was and she called me to tell me that she was going to my school to meet the director of the short film she was in. I happened to be busy with that director. So I saw her but I only said hi because I was busy. I told her I'll call her that night but didn't. I called her today and left a brief message instead saying that I didn't call because I got caught up.

So in some ways my actual lack of time is working hand-in-hand with the advice being given in this thread. I guess if I'm paying attention I should ignore her phone call when she calls me back. Then she'll wonder why I'm never available. Heck, I'm not even available when she's sitting in front of my face.

True about the nice guy thing, and that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so.

[cjonesfan921]

Re: Women

Yea, the nice guy bit has definitely ruined many, many opportunities for me. I'm aware of it and girl by girl I'm throwing off the stigma. It's just taking time because the previous mistakes have every now and then thrown me into a frenzy. I hit a rough end and start thinking it's always like this and then don't talk to the girls that would be interested if I at least tried.

I go into these spurts where there will be a few girls interested and more times that not I'll mess it up. Sometimes I'll just forget about them completely (this usually only happens to the ones I never really liked to begin with) or I'll just try too hard to get them to like me and it ends up being more like a friendship thing.

The terrible part about it is I'm trying to get a girl that already likes me to like me. It's a positive with a negative and that always equals a negative. It's a bad move and I constantly do it because I'm an idiot.

Confidence with girls is not a problem. I can talk to any girl without a problem. That doesn't mean I'll talk to every girl, though. I'll see a pretty girl walk by on the street and won't say anything to her. I don't think of it as a lack of confidence. Instead, I'm not really into getting girls that way.

I have never had a problem getting a girl to laugh and be comfortable with me. The major issue is I get them too comfortable before I make a move and then it becomes too late.

Good topic that comes at a perfect time for me because there is a girl that I'm going to ask out that I just met. I worked with her on set of a short film, asked for her number, and called her two weeks later and left a message. She called me back but I was busy and told her I'll give her a call later (I was actually really busy but I could have definitely dropped what I was doing. Guess it was a good idea that I didn't). Well, it turns out that she was just around the block from where I was and she called me to tell me that she was going to my school to meet the director of the short film she was in. I happened to be busy with that director. So I saw her but I only said hi because I was busy. I told her I'll call her that night but didn't. I called her today and left a brief message instead saying that I didn't call because I got caught up.

So in some ways my actual lack of time is working hand-in-hand with the advice being given in this thread. I guess if I'm paying attention I should ignore her phone call when she calls me back. Then she'll wonder why I'm never available. Heck, I'm not even available when she's sitting in front of my face.

I would pick up this time. You don't want her to think you are always busy. Keep her on her toes. Don't be predictable. I know you were actually busy but just a general tip, don't too predictable in anything. Like you said, she has called twice with you being busy. I'd pick up next time, if you are there and the phone rings.

[Acid]

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You better watch out Longhorn. All the stay-at-home dads are going to gang up and get you on GRAW or RB6.

But there ain't nothing wrong with that. Johnny's the man.

Their minivans combine to form Optimus Prime.

True story.

[Beantown]

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Their minivans combine to form Optimus Prime.

True story.

Yeah.

Optimus Prime couldn't beat me in R6. Especially if Johnny was one of the parts. He'd malfunction.

[Flyboy]

Re: Women

"Allow me to share the benefit of my 36 years with you all. 36 years old, and I have been married for 13 of those years. In that time, I have been the best man at 4 weddings, and seen a sister-in-law go through 2 marriages. Also, as many of you know, I have worked in Social Services, and had the occassion to do counselling work with families.

Here, in short, is the sum total of my findings.

All women are in fact, insane.

Now I'm sure you're saying, 'But Dave...I know a woman who isn't insane!'

No. No you don't.

You ALL know women who are insane, and the ones that you know who aren't insane are either:

1) Hiding it well.
2) Waiting for the best possible time to unleash their insanity, to get the maximum impact and totally **** up your life.

You can read books, you can study reports, you can talk to doctors, but believe me when I tell you...ALL women are insane. Their insanity takes different forms. There are different manifestations of dementia, but eventually, it will come out. It may be tomorrow, it may be next month, it may be 25 years from now, but one day a woman you know will do something so illogical and indescribeable that you will have no choice but to agree with my diagnosis.

This of couse raises two questions.

1) What can be done about this?
2) Why do men keep going back for more?

The answer to #1 is NOTHING.
The answer to #2 is...all men deep down are STUPID.

Sure, we might seem intelligent at times. We might say or do intelligent things. But when it counts most, we will always go running back to the insane women, happily sometimes."

-- Dave Dyland