15 yr old girl punched then pepper sprayed, justified.

[DirrtySouth78]

Re: 15 yr old girl punched then pepper sprayed, justified.

As a person who doesn't like the police, I have learned though.
I believe he did a good job. Just watching that made me wanna pop her in the mouth..

STFU, you did what you did, got caught, now its time to pay that debt.
Obviously there is more to the story than Curfew, otherwise would've just went calmly. If its only a minor incident you will complain & get pissed, but if its Major, thats when your gonna put up the most fight.

Plus Size doesn't always matter like others have said Adrenaline & muscle placement have alot to do with that.

I could take a girl like her & with proper training, no matter size & strength, you could not bend her arm..Break it yes, bend it no.

He was justified & showed much restraint...Everyone is quick to judge but put yourself in his shoes..Someone will Not listen to you, is resisting & flailing at you, fighting you all the way while your trying to diffuse the situation..then she just bites you..I know they are trained, but think about your first instinct, I would've knocked her silly...But you attack an officer, you get whats coming, I have no sympathy for her...You got what you asked for.

Obviously you knew you were doing wrong or you wouldn't have said "I don't wanna go to jail"..Once again won't be brought up unless you KNOW you did something wrong, they don't just arrest for no apparent reason, no matter what anyone says.

So if you know what you are doing, you have to own up to it and accept punishment, fighting, biting,resisting just make it more obvious that you did more than "break Curfew" U did it you pay. She's not the "Innocent 15 yr old" she wants you to think she is.

Good restraint in my eyes

[ODogg]

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when you assault a police officer, you are asking for it. They are not going to just say "please don't do that, it hurts" :y4:

Exactly man, and you can't go by size, looks, age, etc in how you handle a violent situation, if, as a police officer, you're not in control of a situation then you need to get into control of it, and in a hurry using the most dominant way you can to get control back. The police officer was 100% justified and I don't feel bad at all for the girl, she had it coming.

Also, I'd just like to say that I think it's very easy for us to sit back and play Monday morning QB for police officers who put their lives in danger everyday for us. In a situation like this that's a judgement call, apparently for some of you anyways, you must give them the benefit of the doubt in how they do their job.

[Brandon13]

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Stupid bitch got what she deserved.

[stewaat]

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Stupid bitch got what she deserved.

QFT

[keRplunK]

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In a situation like this that's a judgement call, apparently for some of you anyways, you must give them the benefit of the doubt in how they do their job.

It's a judgment call, and bad judgment leads to situations like this. How is this 15 year old girl a threat in anyway to the police officer? If he had used any common sense to settle the girl down than it could have been completely avoided (more than likely or at least avoiding biting and the retaliation). Either there are a lot of angry dumb *** police or they train some of these guys poorly.

Clearly most police do a pretty good job (otherwise we'd see 15 of these things pop up a day..rather than every 3 days) and they do have a tough job...but I've seen far too many police officers simply take out there anger on people who are having a hard time controlling there emotions OBVIOUSLY if that person is an actual threat to anyone's safety than do what you have to do...but over and over THEY escalate the conflicts and then use unnecessary force because they are angry or just plain like beating the **** out of people for no reason.

I'm not sure which one it is.

[trobinson97]

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Lol at some of you guys. No way you'd be saying that guy was justified if that was your little sister, or daughter. And you definitely wouldn't be using words like "Stupid bitch", classy one there. She was no threat whatsoever to that guy, a minor annoyance maybe, but not a threat; not severe enough that he needed to punch her in the face to calm her down. I think of of at least 3 different ways he could have gotten the cuffs on her in that situation without punching her, or even spaying her for that matter. Also, no Dirrtysouth, my first instinct would not have been to knock her silly, not unless I'd just been waiting for a decent reason to do so anyway.

[TheMatrix31]

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Seems like I'll never be able to be a police officer. I would have beat the living **** out of her if she gave me that hard of a time.

I'm just sick of everyone who waits for any sign of "oppression" and "abuse of power" by police in order to go off and "speak against the man". Not just with this example, but in general. Same thing with all these taser incidents recently. It seems like its a trend to speak out and be a protester.

[grunt]

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He just should of shot her, I mean he said "put your hands behind your back" a MILLION times. Eventually you just got to shoot or punch somebody...I guess he went with the lesser of the two options, they need to teach that guy to go to his gun quicker.

He was clearly in danger.

(or it was a 15 year old girl who lost her mind because she was thinking about how much trouble she was going to get in and clearly wasn't acting rationally because of the circumstances...and if the cop had half a brain he would've been able to descalate the situation...why do her hands HALF to be behind her back in that situation...put her in the back of the car and lock the doors...unless there is an obvious reason that I'm missing...)

Stop it. You are making too much sense. I've been cuffed before and both times it was in the front. Oh well. The law is the law. The officer could have handled it better. He punched out of a natural reaction can't fault him and he used pepper spray better than other methods.

Just a tough job.

[grunt]

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Seems like I'll never be able to be a police officer. I would have beat the living **** out of her if she gave me that hard of a time.

I'm just sick of everyone who waits for any sign of "oppression" and "abuse of power" by police in order to go off and "speak against the man". Not just with this example, but in general. Same thing with all these taser incidents recently. It seems like its a trend to speak out and be a protester.

because you are such a tough guy. You have beat the **** out of a scared 15 year old. Wow.

[Dice]

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I don't think the pepper spray was necessary. However, I would have popped her in the mouth if she bit me.

[ODogg]

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It's a judgment call, and bad judgment leads to situations like this. How is this 15 year old girl a threat in anyway to the police officer?

Just because it's a 15 year old girl does NOT mean she is no threat. You want a scenario how she is a threat? Let's say she's on drugs, the cop doesn't know that she's not and she certainly is acting bizarre. She's on drugs and the cop doesn't get the situation under control, she grabs his gun and shoots him dead. Or maybe she doesn't grab his gun but she has a pocket knife on her and grabs it during the scuffle and stabs him and he bleeds out.

You guys who are saying it was overkill should realize that you can't assume that a 15 year old hysterical girl is no threat, that type of thinking is how civilians think, and if you think like that in law enforcement you probably will end up dead.

[grunt]

Re: 15 yr old girl punched then pepper sprayed, justified.

Just because it's a 15 year old girl does NOT mean she is no threat. You want a scenario how she is a threat? Let's say she's on drugs, the cop doesn't know that she's not and she certainly is acting bizarre. She's on drugs and the cop doesn't get the situation under control, she grabs his gun and shoots him dead. Or maybe she doesn't grab his gun but she has a pocket knife on her and grabs it during the scuffle and stabs him and he bleeds out.

You guys who are saying it was overkill should realize that you can't assume that a 15 year old hysterical girl is no threat, that type of thinking is how civilians think, and if you think like that in law enforcement you probably will end up dead.

If that 15 year old disarm the officer, the officer needs more training. We can think about as many scenarios as possible for both side. What if she is just scared. Maybe he needed to call for more officers. Tough job but it doesn't mean the officer shouldn't be criticize or it couldn't been handled in a better way.

I think the officer did the best he could have done. Tough work.

[forensicd]

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I think the pepper spray and the punch were totally warranted. Biting an officer is absurd, especially when the officer has no idea if you have AIDS or other transmittble diseases.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

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that was awesome

[ODogg]

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If that 15 year old disarm the officer, the officer needs more training.

Actually she didn't have a chance precisely because he did know his training, he got control of the situation by doing what was necessary to take back control of the situation.

We can think about as many scenarios as possible for both side.

But that's not the point, the point is we are approaching this asking "was the officer justified" so the only scenarios that need examined is from his point of view. And as for the "she's just a 15 year old girl" arguement is bogus. The history of law enforcement is filled with officers being injured or killed because of that type of thinking. The bottom line for police officers is if a situation is not under control it's potentially lethal.