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Re: 15 yr old girl punched then pepper sprayed, justified.
and that's the only time we hear about cops. The other 99% of the time they do their jobs correctly. Bottom line is when a cop tells you to put your hands behind your back, you do it. It's called respect. Obviously this girl didn't have any respect for authority. She wasn't raised right. The fact that she's 15 and dressed like a hoochie after curfew only confirms the fact she wasn't raised right.I kno so much about the NBA I should work 4 ESPN!!!!
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Drugs right now are illegal. I didn't say the law was subjective just your opinion on whether that is "minding your own business." If you agree with the law you would want the officer to step in if it's possible. If you don't agree with the law then you wouldn't.Comment
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OK, that's out of the way. Which applies to you? Did you find her of low or sleazy character? If so, why? Is she disgustingly foul or filthy, or perhaps sexually promiscuous in your mind? If so, why? Also, you didn't say she was skanky, but that she specifically, was a skank. How Odogg know this? What would make ODogg come to this highly ridiculous claim?
Well, anyway, let's take a look at the word prejudicereconceived judgment or opinion...an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge...an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
None of that applies to you in this situation though, right?:
Yes there are other definitions but I selected #3 because that is what most people think of when they hear that word (race). I said nothing about her race and in that context I am most certainly not the least bit prejudiced against her.
You said you felt you knew more than me about this because of your military experience. I said to that "not really".
We got a lot of the same training as our MP's (Military Police fyi) so what are you saying not really to? That I don't understand policing as much as you? You already said you've never been a policeman, so you were former military or something? I can understand you liking to think you understand more, but just because you like to think that doesn't mean you do.
The bottom line is all of this debate about whether she is hot or a skank is just a big diversion. The real debate should be: did this police officer act in the correct manner or not in the video? From what I can tell, based on my own opinion, she most certainly did instigate the situation and the officer responded not only correctly but put forth admirable restraint.Last edited by ODogg; 10-10-2007, 10:39 AM.Streaming PC & PS5 games, join me most nights after 6:00pm ET on TwitchTV https://www.twitch.tv/shaunh20
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She deserves it. She just was luck it was a "good cop". Next time when a cop tells u something - do it. If u wanna call your lawyer or file a suit or whatever - it's OK, but do it later. Fighting the cop certainly won't help u in the trial.My Specs:
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Go get in argument with someone bigger than you, bite their hand and see how they respond. Chances are you'll get hit in the face as well.
While an officer can be expected to prepare for a certain situation, the bottom line is that they are going to react like a human being to things that they are not accustomed to. How many people are used to getting bit by another human. You just don't expect it.Comment
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Re: 15 yr old girl punched then pepper sprayed, justified.
Go get in argument with someone bigger than you, bite their hand and see how they respond. Chances are you'll get hit in the face as well.
While an officer can be expected to prepare for a certain situation, the bottom line is that they are going to react like a human being to things that they are not accustomed to. How many people are used to getting bit by another human. You just don't expect it.Comment
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Again, the original reference that I made to skank was someone said they would get a boner cuffing her, I said that I wouldn't because she looked skanky and I didn't find her attractive. You can argue all day about it but i'm not changing that opinion. As for where that opinion derives it is mostly from the sleazy and ridiculous, disgusting way she presented herself in that video. I hope that clears that up for you.
Originally posted by OdoggNope, sure doesn't. Prejudice definition from dictionary.com: prej·u·dice /ˈprɛdʒədɪs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prej-uh-dis] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -diced, -dic·ing. -noun 3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.
Yes there are other definitions but I selected #3 because that is what most people think of when they hear that word (race). I said nothing about her race and in that context I am most certainly not the least bit prejudiced against her.
Originally posted by OdoggOnce again, for the 100th time, the comment by me was in reference to her sexual attractiveness, not whether she deserved her punching and spraying. Not finding her sexually attractive must be based entirely on her appearance and behavior since I do not personally know her. And that my friend is called having an opinion which we all have. In that context we all judge people by their appearances and preconceptions if we do not know them..
Originally posted by ODoggYou said you felt you knew more than me about this because of your military experience. I said to that "not really".
Originally posted by ODoggOnce again you said your opinion was probably a more informed one due to your military experience. And I disagreed. And once again in your quote above you're contradicting yourself saying no one is saying they are the same thing, then turning around and saying that basically they are the same thing, LOL!
Originally posted by ODoggYou received some of the training that MP's do, well that's great. I have worked with and known many police officers for years, in addition to studying police work extensively on my own while preparing for police academy. I never said I understand more than you specifically in this regards due to you also having a unique insight as well. I put us on the same exact level in regards to our understanding. It is you who said that YOU knew more in your opinion and to me that is an erroneous assumption.
My response to you was that given the info you gave us on your background (that you have never been a policeman, or a military man) was that "I'd like to think I know more about it than you", seeing as how I actually went through all the official training, and dealt hands on as opposed to talking with cop buddies and reading some books. You can put us on the same level of understanding all you want, but that doesn't make it so. That's the same thing I said when you said you'd like to think you understand more. I can understand liking to think things like that, but just because it makes you feel good, it doesn't mean it's true.
Originally posted by ODoggThe bottom line is all of this debate about whether she is hot or a skank is just a big diversion. The real debate should be: did this police officer act in the correct manner or not in the video? From what I can tell, based on my own opinion, she most certainly did instigate the situation and the officer responded not only correctly but put forth admirable restraint.
Yeah it is a big diversion, and I'm sure you really want to get back to the original discussion. I don't blame you in the slightest. Truth of the matter is, the discussion is still going on, so this little side thing isn't hurting anyone as far as I can see. Also, it never would have happened had you chose to think before calling the kid a skank. It was a great debate I thought until you and someone else (I forget now) resorted to calling the girl names.PS: You guys are great.
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TR, as much as I don't agree with ODogg here, have you ever looked at someone and called her "skanky?"
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Re: 15 yr old girl punched then pepper sprayed, justified.
How do you know she's scared? Maybe she's a repeat offender and has no respect for police and therefore no fear of the law? Maybe she's drunk or high or suffers from mental problems. I mean if you want to take everything this guy says litterally, then shouldn't you be held accountable for the same?
The guy called her a skank, so what? He doesn't have to explain what his definition of a skank is to the way you interpretit it. I use the words ******** and gay out of context all of the time, I don't feel the need to clarify it every time I say it. Most people understand the way I am using it and wouldn't think twice about it. Examples: "Dude, quit being gay and just give me beer." "Dude, quit being ******** and catch the damn ball!"
I don't mean to jump in the conversation, but arguing over the litteral meaning of someones words isn't going to solve anything.Last edited by Trevytrev11; 10-10-2007, 03:31 PM.Comment
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And if you don't say it, you know you've thought it and if not, then you're obviously better than most people in the world.Comment
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Re: 15 yr old girl punched then pepper sprayed, justified.
The guy called her a skank, so what? He doesn't have to explain what his definition of a skank is to the way you interpretit it. I use the words ******** and gay out of context all of the time, I don't feel the need to clarify it every time I say it. Most people understand the way I am using it and wouldn't think twice about it. Examples: "Dude, quit being gay and just give me beer." "Dude, quit being ******** and catch the damn ball!"
I don't mean to jump in the conversation, but arguing over the litteral meaning of someones words isn't going to solve anything.
But yeah, just to be clear, I found her to be sexually unattractive and not a skank, so as not to offend any of the more faint of heart here who visit these forums.Last edited by ODogg; 10-10-2007, 03:41 PM.Streaming PC & PS5 games, join me most nights after 6:00pm ET on TwitchTV https://www.twitch.tv/shaunh20
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Re: 15 yr old girl punched then pepper sprayed, justified.
And yeah I'm sure trobinson always says to his buds when they are at the mall [b]"Hey dude, check out that blonde over there, I find her very sexually attractive"....LOL I just wonder if he follows that up with a "I'd like to have sexual intercourse with her but not to procreate but rather for entertainment purposes" *rolls eyes*..geesh..<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:RelyOnVML/> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:DoNotPromoteQF/> <w:LidThemeOther>EN-US</w:LidThemeOther> <w:LidThemeAsian>X-NONE</w:LidThemeAsian> <w:LidThemeComplexScript>X-NONE</w:LidThemeComplexScript> <w:Compatibility> 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