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  • Village Idiot
    Probably Insane
    • Sep 2004
    • 2733

    #1201
    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

    Thanks, stew. I was sure someone would quote my entire post and then say, "I agree" or "I disagree," whatever. Would have been funny, but too late now.

    EDIT: Actually, someone still probably will, watch!
    Last edited by Village Idiot; 06-02-2008, 09:32 AM.
    I am become death
    Do not underestimate my apathy
    Chances guys who claim a game sucks will cease posting in a forum devoted to that game: 3%

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    • callmetaternuts
      All Star
      • Jul 2004
      • 7045

      #1202
      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

      Thought about it, but wont do it.

      As an FYI, how (using quick reply or w/e its called) do you only quote a part of it? For some reason, at work i cant use the full blown response page.
      Check out my Tampa Bay Buccaneers CFM Thread.

      You too can be a 5* recruit at FSU.......

      Originally posted by TwelveozPlaya21
      add worthless Xavier Lee to that list..
      Originally posted by MassNole
      CFL here he comes. Pfft, wait that would require learning a playbook. McDonalds here he comes.

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      • Village Idiot
        Probably Insane
        • Sep 2004
        • 2733

        #1203
        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

        Well you're still hitting the quote button as usual, but then you highlight and delete what you don't "need" to quote.
        I am become death
        Do not underestimate my apathy
        Chances guys who claim a game sucks will cease posting in a forum devoted to that game: 3%

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        • callmetaternuts
          All Star
          • Jul 2004
          • 7045

          #1204
          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

          Ah, never tried the quote button, i hit the one next to it, on the far right. Thanks for the heads up. Thats one less offender now
          Check out my Tampa Bay Buccaneers CFM Thread.

          You too can be a 5* recruit at FSU.......

          Originally posted by TwelveozPlaya21
          add worthless Xavier Lee to that list..
          Originally posted by MassNole
          CFL here he comes. Pfft, wait that would require learning a playbook. McDonalds here he comes.

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          • stewaat

            #1205
            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

            Originally posted by Some Genius
            Quantum mechanics is the study of mechanical systems whose dimensions are close to or below the atomic scale, such as molecules, atoms, electrons, protons and other subatomic particles. Quantum mechanics is a fundamental branch of physics with wide applications. Quantum theory generalizes classical mechanics and provides accurate descriptions for many previously unexplained phenomena such as black body radiation and stable electron orbits. The effects of quantum mechanics are typically not observable on macroscopic scales, but become evident at the atomic and subatomic level. There are however exceptions to this rule such as superfluidity.

            Contents [hide]
            1 Overview
            2 History
            3 Relativity and quantum mechanics
            4 Attempts at a unified theory
            5 Quantum mechanics and classical physics
            6 Theory
            6.1 Mathematical formulation
            6.2 Interactions with other scientific theories
            7 Derivation of quantization
            8 Applications
            9 Philosophical consequences
            10 See also
            11 Notes
            12 References
            13 External links



            [edit] Overview
            The word “quantum” came from the Latin word which means "what quantity". In quantum mechanics, it refers to a discrete unit that quantum theory assigns to certain physical quantities, such as the energy of an atom at rest (see Figure 1, at right). The discovery that waves have discrete energy packets (called quanta) that behave in a manner similar to particles led to the branch of physics that deals with atomic and subatomic systems which we today call quantum mechanics. It is the underlying mathematical framework of many fields of physics and chemistry, including condensed matter physics, solid-state physics, atomic physics, molecular physics, computational chemistry, quantum chemistry, particle physics, and nuclear physics. The foundations of quantum mechanics were established during the first half of the twentieth century by Werner Heisenberg, Max Planck, Louis de Broglie, Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Erwin Schrödinger, Max Born, John von Neumann, Paul Dirac, Wolfgang Pauli and others. Some fundamental aspects of the theory are still actively studied.

            Quantum mechanics is essential to understand the behavior of systems at atomic length scales and smaller. For example, if Newtonian mechanics governed the workings of an atom, electrons would rapidly travel towards and collide with the nucleus, making stable atoms impossible. However, in the natural world the electrons normally remain in an unknown orbital path around the nucleus, defying classical electromagnetism.

            Quantum mechanics was initially developed to provide a better explanation of the atom, especially the spectra of light emitted by different atomic species. The quantum theory of the atom was developed as an explanation for the electron's staying in its orbital, which could not be explained by Newton's laws of motion and by Maxwell's laws of classical electromagnetism.

            In the formalism of quantum mechanics, the state of a system at a given time is described by a complex wave function (sometimes referred to as orbitals in the case of atomic electrons), and more generally, elements of a complex vector space. This abstract mathematical object allows for the calculation of probabilities of outcomes of concrete experiments. For example, it allows one to compute the probability of finding an electron in a particular region around the nucleus at a particular time. Contrary to classical mechanics, one can never make simultaneous predictions of conjugate variables, such as position and momentum, with arbitrary accuracy. For instance, electrons may be considered to be located somewhere within a region of space, but with their exact positions being unknown. Contours of constant probability, often referred to as “clouds” may be drawn around the nucleus of an atom to conceptualize where the electron might be located with the most probability. It should be stressed that the electron itself is not spread out over such cloud regions. It is either in a particular region of space, or it is not citation needed. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle quantifies the inability to precisely locate the particle.

            The other exemplar that led to quantum mechanics was the study of electromagnetic waves such as light. When it was found in 1900 by Max Planck that the energy of waves could be described as consisting of small packets or quanta, Albert Einstein exploited this idea to show that an electromagnetic wave such as light could be described by a particle called the photon with a discrete energy dependent on its frequency. This led to a theory of unity between subatomic particles and electromagnetic waves called wave–particle duality in which particles and waves were neither one nor the other, but had certain properties of both. While quantum mechanics describes the world of the very small, it also is needed to explain certain “macroscopic quantum systems” such as superconductors and superfluids.

            Broadly speaking, quantum mechanics incorporates four classes of phenomena that classical physics cannot account for: (i) the quantization (discretization) of certain physical quantities, (ii) wave-particle duality, (iii) the uncertainty principle, and (iv) quantum entanglement. Each of these phenomena is described in detail in subsequent sections.


            [edit] History
            Main article: History of quantum mechanics
            The history of quantum mechanics began essentially with the 1838 discovery of cathode rays by Michael Faraday, the 1859 statement of the black body radiation problem by Gustav Kirchhoff, the 1877 suggestion by Ludwig Boltzmann that the energy states of a physical system could be discrete, and the 1900 quantum hypothesis by Max Planck that any energy is radiated and absorbed in quantities divisible by discrete ‘energy elements’, E, such that each of these energy elements is proportional to the frequency ν with which they each individually radiate energy, as defined by the following formula:


            where h is Planck's Action Constant. Although Planck insisted that this was simply an aspect of the absorption and radiation of energy and had nothing to do with the physical reality of the energy itself, in 1905, to explain the photoelectric effect (1839), i.e. that shining light on certain materials can function to eject electrons from the material, Albert Einstein postulated, as based on Planck’s quantum hypothesis, that light itself consists of individual quanta, which later came to be called photons (1926). From Einstein's simple postulation was borne a flurry of debating, theorizing and testing, and thus, the entire field of quantum physics.


            [edit] Relativity and quantum mechanics
            The modern world of physics is notably founded on two tested and demonstrably sound theories of general relativity and quantum mechanics —theories which appear to contradict one another. The defining postulates of both Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum theory are indisputably supported by rigorous and repeated empirical evidence. However, while they do not directly contradict each other theoretically (at least with regard to primary claims), they are resistant to being incorporated within one cohesive model.

            Einstein himself is well known for rejecting some of the claims of quantum mechanics. While clearly inventive in this field, he did not accept the more philosophical consequences and interpretations of quantum mechanics, such as the lack of deterministic causality and the assertion that a single subatomic particle can occupy numerous areas of space at one time. He also was the first to notice some of the apparently exotic consequences of entanglement and used them to formulate the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox, in the hope of showing that quantum mechanics has unacceptable implications. This was 1935, but in 1964 it was shown by John Bell (see Bell inequality) that Einstein's assumption that quantum mechanics is correct, but has to be completed by hidden variables, was based on wrong philosophical assumptions: according to the paper of J. Bell and the Copenhagen interpretation (the common interpretation of quantum mechanics by physicists for decades), and contrary to Einstein's ideas, quantum mechanics is

            neither a "realistic" theory (since quantum measurements do not state pre-existing properties, but rather they prepare properties)
            nor a local theory (essentially not, because the state vector determines simultaneously the probability amplitudes at all sites, ).
            The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox shows in any case that there exist experiments by which one can measure the state of one particle and instantaneously change the state of its entangled partner, although the two particles can be an arbitrary distance apart; however, this effect does not violate causality, since no transfer of information happens. These experiments are the basis of some of the most topical applications of the theory, quantum cryptography, which works well, although at small distances of typically 1000 km, being on the market since 2004.

            There do exist quantum theories which incorporate special relativity—for example, quantum electrodynamics (QED), which is currently the most accurately tested physical theory [1]—and these lie at the very heart of modern particle physics. Gravity is negligible in many areas of particle physics, so that unification between general relativity and quantum mechanics is not an urgent issue in those applications. However, the lack of a correct theory of quantum gravity is an important issue in cosmology.


            [edit] Attempts at a unified theory
            Main article: Quantum gravity
            Inconsistencies arise when one tries to join the quantum laws with general relativity, a more elaborate description of spacetime which incorporates gravitation. Resolving these inconsistencies has been a major goal of twentieth- and twenty-first-century physics. Many prominent physicists, including Stephen Hawking, have labored in the attempt to discover a "Grand Unification Theory" that combines not only different models of subatomic physics, but also derives the universe's four forces—the strong force, electromagnetism, weak force, and gravity— from a single force or phenomenon.


            [edit] Quantum mechanics and classical physics
            Predictions of quantum mechanics have been verified experimentally to a very high degree of accuracy. Thus, the current logic of correspondence principle between classical and quantum mechanics is that all objects obey laws of quantum mechanics, and classical mechanics is just a quantum mechanics of large systems (or a statistical quantum mechanics of a large collection of particles). Laws of classical mechanics thus follow from laws of quantum mechanics at the limit of large systems or large quantum numbers.

            Main differences between classical and quantum theories have already been mentioned above in the remarks on the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox. Essentially the difference boils down to the statement that quantum mechanics is coherent (addition of amplitudes), whereas classical theories are incoherent (addition of intensities). Thus, such quantities as coherence lengths and coherence times come into play. For microscopic bodies the extension of the system is certainly much smaller than the coherence length; for macroscopic bodies one expects that it should be the other way round.

            This is in accordance with the following observations:

            Many “macroscopic” properties of “classic” systems are direct consequences of quantum behavior of its parts. For example, stability of bulk matter (which consists of atoms and molecules which would quickly collapse under electric forces alone), rigidity of this matter, mechanical, thermal, chemical, optical and magnetic properties of this matter—they are all results of interaction of electric charges under the rules of quantum mechanics.

            Because seemingly exotic behavior of matter posited by quantum mechanics and relativity theory become more apparent when dealing with extremely fast-moving or extremely tiny particles, the laws of classical “Newtonian” physics still remain accurate in predicting the behavior of surrounding (“large”) objects—of the order of the size of large molecules and bigger.

            Despite the proposal of many novel ideas, the unification of quantum mechanics—which reigns in the domain of the very small—and general relativity—a superb description of the very large—remains, tantalizingly, a future possibility. (See quantum gravity, string theory.)


            [edit] Theory
            There are numerous mathematically equivalent formulations of quantum mechanics. One of the oldest and most commonly used formulations is the transformation theory proposed by Cambridge theoretical physicist Paul Dirac, which unifies and generalizes the two earliest formulations of quantum mechanics, matrix mechanics (invented by Werner Heisenberg)[2] and wave mechanics (invented by Erwin Schrödinger).

            In this formulation, the instantaneous state of a quantum system encodes the probabilities of its measurable properties, or "observables". Examples of observables include energy, position, momentum, and angular momentum. Observables can be either continuous (e.g., the position of a particle) or discrete (e.g., the energy of an electron bound to a hydrogen atom).

            Generally, quantum mechanics does not assign definite values to observables. Instead, it makes predictions about probability distributions; that is, the probability of obtaining each of the possible outcomes from measuring an observable. Naturally, these probabilities will depend on the quantum state at the instant of the measurement. There are, however, certain states that are associated with a definite value of a particular observable. These are known as "eigenstates" of the observable ("eigen" can be roughly translated from German as inherent or as a characteristic). In the everyday world, it is natural and intuitive to think of everything being in an eigenstate of every observable. Everything appears to have a definite position, a definite momentum, and a definite time of occurrence. However, quantum mechanics does not pinpoint the exact values for the position or momentum of a certain particle in a given space in a finite time; rather, it only provides a range of probabilities of where that particle might be. Therefore, it became necessary to use different words for (a) the state of something having an uncertainty relation and (b) a state that has a definite value. The latter is called the "eigenstate" of the property being measured.

            For example, consider a free particle. In quantum mechanics, there is wave-particle duality so the properties of the particle can be described as a wave. Therefore, its quantum state can be represented as a wave, of arbitrary shape and extending over all of space, called a wave function. The position and momentum of the particle are observables. The Uncertainty Principle of quantum mechanics states that both the position and the momentum cannot simultaneously be known with infinite precision at the same time. However, one can measure just the position alone of a moving free particle creating an eigenstate of position with a wavefunction that is very large at a particular position x, and almost zero everywhere else. If one performs a position measurement on such a wavefunction, the result x will be obtained with almost 100% probability. In other words, the position of the free particle will almost be known. This is called an eigenstate of position (mathematically more precise: a generalized eigenstate (eigendistribution) ). If the particle is in an eigenstate of position then its momentum is completely unknown. An eigenstate of momentum, on the other hand, has the form of a plane wave. It can be shown that the wavelength is equal to h/p, where h is Planck's constant and p is the momentum of the eigenstate. If the particle is in an eigenstate of momentum then its position is completely blurred out.

            Usually, a system will not be in an eigenstate of whatever observable we are interested in. However, if one measures the observable, the wavefunction will instantaneously be an eigenstate (or generalized eigenstate) of that observable. This process is known as wavefunction collapse. It involves expanding the system under study to include the measurement device, so that a detailed quantum calculation would no longer be feasible and a classical description must be used. If one knows the corresponding wave function at the instant before the measurement, one will be able to compute the probability of collapsing into each of the possible eigenstates. For example, the free particle in the previous example will usually have a wavefunction that is a wave packet centered around some mean position x0, neither an eigenstate of position nor of momentum. When one measures the position of the particle, it is impossible to predict with certainty the result that we will obtain. It is probable, but not certain, that it will be near x0, where the amplitude of the wave function is large. After the measurement is performed, having obtained some result x, the wave function collapses into a position eigenstate centered at x.

            Wave functions can change as time progresses. An equation known as the Schrödinger equation describes how wave functions change in time, a role similar to Newton's second law in classical mechanics. The Schrödinger equation, applied to the aforementioned example of the free particle, predicts that the center of a wave packet will move through space at a constant velocity, like a classical particle with no forces acting on it. However, the wave packet will also spread out as time progresses, which means that the position becomes more uncertain. This also has the effect of turning position eigenstates (which can be thought of as infinitely sharp wave packets) into broadened wave packets that are no longer position eigenstates.

            Some wave functions produce probability distributions that are constant in time. Many systems that are treated dynamically in classical mechanics are described by such "static" wave functions. For example, a single electron in an unexcited atom is pictured classically as a particle moving in a circular trajectory around the atomic nucleus, whereas in quantum mechanics it is described by a static, spherically symmetric wavefunction surrounding the nucleus (Fig. 1). (Note that only the lowest angular momentum states, labeled s, are spherically symmetric).

            The time evolution of wave functions is deterministic in the sense that, given a wavefunction at an initial time, it makes a definite prediction of what the wavefunction will be at any later time. During a measurement, the change of the wavefunction into another one is not deterministic, but rather unpredictable, i.e., random.

            The probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics thus stems from the act of measurement. This is one of the most difficult aspects of quantum systems to understand. It was the central topic in the famous Bohr-Einstein debates, in which the two scientists attempted to clarify these fundamental principles by way of thought experiments. In the decades after the formulation of quantum mechanics, the question of what constitutes a "measurement" has been extensively studied. Interpretations of quantum mechanics have been formulated to do away with the concept of "wavefunction collapse"; see, for example, the relative state interpretation. The basic idea is that when a quantum system interacts with a measuring apparatus, their respective wavefunctions become entangled, so that the original quantum system ceases to exist as an independent entity. For details, see the article on measurement in quantum mechanics.
            I don't get it

            Last edited by Guest; 06-02-2008, 03:43 PM.

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            • NYJets
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 18637

              #1206
              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

              Ughh so 2 of the ones that annoy me the most are:

              1. People who take the urinal right next to you when there are plenty of open ones.

              2. People begging for money.


              So today I get the combo. I'm taking a piss, only one at the urinals, some guy comes in, starts pissing in the urinal right next too me, starts up a conversation and asks for a few bucks staring right at me the entire time he talks.
              Originally posted by Jay Bilas
              The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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              • X*Cell
                Collab: xcellnoah@gmail
                • Sep 2002
                • 8107

                #1207
                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                Originally posted by NYJets
                Ughh so 2 of the ones that annoy me the most are:

                1. People who take the urinal right next to you when there are plenty of open ones.

                2. People begging for money.


                So today I get the combo. I'm taking a piss, only one at the urinals, some guy comes in, starts pissing in the urinal right next too me, starts up a conversation and asks for a few bucks staring right at me the entire time he talks.
                damn thats some creeeepyyy **** homie.
                SAN ANTONIO SPURS

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                • Double Eights
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 5733

                  #1208
                  Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                  Here's the deal,

                  Either allow full-scale porn on Nickelodeon at noon, or get those *** **** Levitra, Cialis, Viagra, etc.. commercials off the screen. I'm sitting there in my living room, watching the Yankees and talking with my family, and within a five minute span, a Levitra and Viagra commercial come on.

                  It's a little weird sitting there with my parents, and my brother and his kids, hearing some dude talk about erections in the background. So, either stop ****ing around with all the censoring of words and porn, or stop showing these soft-core porn ads, asking me if my dick works.

                  Edit: I'm also getting a little bit tired of these constant "Adult Video and Book Outlet" commercials while I am watching Letterman. "Come by the adult bookstore and meet famous pornstar "so and so"." Seriously, stop.
                  Last edited by Double Eights; 06-26-2008, 12:11 AM.

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                  • baumy300
                    Most Valuable Pepe
                    • May 2005
                    • 3998

                    #1209
                    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                    Originally posted by Double Eights
                    Here's the deal,
                    I'm also getting a little bit tired of these constant "Adult Video and Book Outlet" commercials while I am watching Letterman. "Come by the adult bookstore and meet famous pornstar "so and so"." Seriously, stop.
                    I know, right?
























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                    I post the frog
                    It makes me happy
                    People get upset
                    It makes me sad
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                    • davin
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 2174

                      #1210
                      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                      Originally posted by Double Eights
                      Here's the deal,

                      Either allow full-scale porn on Nickelodeon at noon, or get those *** **** Levitra, Cialis, Viagra, etc.. commercials off the screen. I'm sitting there in my living room, watching the Yankees and talking with my family, and within a five minute span, a Levitra and Viagra commercial come on.

                      It's a little weird sitting there with my parents, and my brother and his kids, hearing some dude talk about erections in the background. So, either stop ****ing around with all the censoring of words and porn, or stop showing these soft-core porn ads, asking me if my dick works.
                      Oh those are always fun when with little kids. Especially when they catch on that you are changing the channel whenever those come on, and then start asking a billion questions about it. And if you do not try to change the channel, you get completely awkward questions. My "favorite" time was when my girlfriend and I were trying to get through a bunch of questions about "natural male enhancement" by a 10 year old (her much younger sister). We told them after a couple minutes of trying to explain it without actually saying what it was, but eventually just said steroids.

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                      • stewaat

                        #1211
                        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                        Yea some commercials bring awkwardness to any situation...

                        for the next page!

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                        • MassNole
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 18848

                          #1212
                          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                          I am sick of people in my area who can't drive the god damned speed limit.

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                          • NYJets
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 18637

                            #1213
                            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                            Originally posted by NYJets
                            Ughh so 2 of the ones that annoy me the most are:

                            1. People who take the urinal right next to you when there are plenty of open ones.

                            2. People begging for money.


                            So today I get the combo. I'm taking a piss, only one at the urinals, some guy comes in, starts pissing in the urinal right next too me, starts up a conversation and asks for a few bucks staring right at me the entire time he talks.

                            Forgot I was also listening to my ipod at the time, which is a 3rd one that I think's already been mentioned, people trying to talk to you when you have headphones on.
                            Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                            The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                            • Alliball
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 2368

                              #1214
                              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                              Originally posted by stewaat
                              Definitely agree that the quote button is used incorrectly. Also quit quoting the lengthy first post...there's no need to do that.

                              Awesome
                              That's the one that makes me shake my head, especially when it's the first person to respond to the OP.

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                              • Alliball
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 2368

                                #1215
                                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

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