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  • J0nnD0ugh
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    • Feb 2003
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    #16
    Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

    Originally posted by Double Eights
    I edited my post.

    I think it was just misinterpretation of what he/she said. I don't think they meant the winds were at 155mph, but that the plane was going 155mph when the pilot was trying to land.
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    • jmood88
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      • Jul 2003
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      #17
      Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

      Originally posted by Double Eights
      I edited my post.

      I think it was just misinterpretation of what he/she said. I don't think they meant the winds were at 155mph, but that the plane was going 155mph when the pilot was trying to land.
      There's a big difference between "wind" and "plane".
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      • Double Eights
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        • Nov 2005
        • 5733

        #18
        Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

        Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
        Are you a pilot?
        No, but I have the common sense to know how fast 155mph is.

        The highest clocked wind gust in history was 231 mph in a hurricane. You're trying to tell me an airport would allow passenger planes to take off and land in a storm with gusts upwards of 155mph?

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        • jmood88
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          • Jul 2003
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          #19
          Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

          Originally posted by Double Eights
          No, but I have the common sense to know how fast 155mph is.

          The highest clocked wind gust in history was 231 mph in a hurricane. You're trying to tell me an airport would allow passenger planes to take off and land in a storm with gusts upwards of 155mph?
          I'm guessing the plane didn't take off and land from the same place and it's possible that it wasn't so windy when they left.

          This story was just on CNN and they said that there was a huge storm just starting to take place in Germany and that the close call was due to the wind. I guess everyone is lying.
          Last edited by jmood88; 03-03-2008, 03:48 PM.
          Originally posted by Blzer
          Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

          If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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          • Double Eights
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            • Nov 2005
            • 5733

            #20
            Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

            Originally posted by jmood88
            I'm guessing the plane didn't take off and land from the same place and it's possible that it wasn't so windy when they left.

            This story was just on CNN and they said that there was a huge storm just starting to take place in Germany and that the close call was due to the wind. I guess everyone is lying.
            If the tower had knowledge of the winds being at 155mph, they would contact the pilot and tell him to turn around. They would not risk trying to land a plane with 155mph winds.

            Jesus christ. 155mph. Just look at that number, and try telling me you would allow a plane to land in that. My car gets jolted around with 30mph gusts. My car would be upside down in a ditch if it got hit with 155mph winds.

            I am telling you, it was a misquote. Find more more articles where it says the wind was at 155mph, and I'll believe you. Until then, I stick by the notion that it was a misquote.

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            • jmood88
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              • Jul 2003
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              #21
              Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

              Originally posted by Double Eights
              If the tower had knowledge of the winds being at 155mph, they would contact the pilot and tell him to turn around. They would not risk trying to land a plane with 155mph winds.

              Jesus christ. 155mph. Just look at that number, and try telling me you would allow a plane to land in that. My car gets jolted around with 30mph gusts. My car would be upside down in a ditch if it got hit with 155mph winds.

              I am telling you, it was a misquote. Find more more articles where it says the wind was at 155mph, and I'll believe you. Until then, I stick by the notion that it was a misquote.
              There was a storm in Germany, where else would they go? I don't need to prove anything to you, if you want to believe it's the pilot's fault despite what everyone else is saying then have fun but if you are going against what everyone else is saying then you should probably show what proof you have that it didn't happen.
              Originally posted by Blzer
              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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              • callmetaternuts
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                • Jul 2004
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                #22
                Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                Wow, however hard the wind was blowing is really irrelevant. To see a plane coming in SIDEWAYS and watching it get pushed is enough to see the wind is powerful. The fact that the wing hits the ground, causes the plane to veer off the runaway and abort the landing and climb says that somehting with the weather and/or plane was wrong.
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                • Double Eights
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                  • Nov 2005
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                  #23
                  Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                  Originally posted by jmood88
                  There was a storm in Germany, where else would they go? I don't need to prove anything to you, if you want to believe it's the pilot's fault despite what everyone else is saying then have fun but if you are going against what everyone else is saying then you should probably show what proof you have that it didn't happen.
                  I didn't say it was entirely the pilots fault. It was a combination of weather and attempting to land in bad conditions. That attempt to land in bad conditions lays on the pilots shoulders.

                  I said the pilot shouldn't have tried to land if he knew the weather was so bad.

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                  • jmood88
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #24
                    Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                    Originally posted by Double Eights
                    I didn't say it was entirely the pilots fault. It was a combination of weather and attempting to land in bad conditions. That attempt to land in bad conditions lays on the pilots shoulders.

                    I said the pilot shouldn't have tried to land if he knew the weather was so bad.
                    Where else would he have gone? Oh and for your information, a gust isn't a sustained wind.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                    • Stu
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                      • Jun 2004
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                      #25
                      Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                      Originally posted by Double Eights
                      The highest clocked wind gust in history was 231 mph in a hurricane.
                      It was actually recorded on the summit of Mt Washington, not during a hurricane. We don't get too many hurricanes up here. Especially in April.
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                      • superjames1992
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                        #26
                        Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                        Whoa! That was a wicked crosswind!
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                        • Double Eights
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                          • Nov 2005
                          • 5733

                          #27
                          Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                          Originally posted by jmood88
                          Where else would he have gone? Oh and for your information, a gust isn't a sustained wind.
                          Just fly around for a little bit, wait for the weather to calm. Or turn around and head to a different airport. If the winds were that bad, they would not have risked trying to land.

                          Again, I didn't say the winds weren't a problem. I said that 155mph gusts was absolutely not correct.

                          No pilot in his right mind would risk trying to land in 155mph winds.

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                          • jmood88
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            #28
                            Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                            Originally posted by Double Eights
                            Just fly around for a little bit, wait for the weather to calm. Or turn around and head to a different airport. If the winds were that bad, they would not have risked trying to land.

                            Again, I didn't say the winds weren't a problem. I said that 155mph gusts was absolutely not correct.

                            No pilot in his right mind would risk trying to land in 155mph winds.
                            There was a storm in Germany, it wasn't going to end that soon and the wind started picking up as he landed. You have no idea what the wind was like but once again you disagree just to disagree. I guess a pilot in his right mind would fly around while his gas ran out and try to outlast a storm that was engulfing the whole country.
                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                            If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                            • Cyros
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                              • Jun 2003
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                              #29
                              Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                              Originally posted by Double Eights
                              Just fly around for a little bit, wait for the weather to calm. Or turn around and head to a different airport. If the winds were that bad, they would not have risked trying to land.

                              Again, I didn't say the winds weren't a problem. I said that 155mph gusts was absolutely not correct.

                              No pilot in his right mind would risk trying to land in 155mph winds.
                              Would he have even had enough fuel for all that?
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                              • Double Eights
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                                • Nov 2005
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                                #30
                                Re: Now THIS is a frikkin' pilot

                                Originally posted by jmood88
                                There was a storm in Germany, it wasn't going to end that soon and the wind started picking up as he landed. You have no idea what the wind was like but once again you disagree just to disagree. I guess a pilot in his right mind would fly around while his gas ran out and try to outlast a storm that was engulfing the whole country.
                                Find me ONE article other than the one in the OP that states 155mph wind gusts were present when the near crash occured.

                                I'm not saying wind wasn't a factor. I am saying 155mph wind gusts didn't occur. Do you even understand what I'm saying? I'm not disagreeing with the fact that winds were bad, I'm disagreeing with the mention of 155mph gusts.

                                I have seen zero articles that state 155mph gusts, other than the original article in this thread. Common sense makes me side on the argument of 155mph being a misquote. I am almost 100% certain the spokesperson meant the plane was going 155mph when it was hit by the gusts.

                                155mph gusts is an absolute insane speed.

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