GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

[55]

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Oh that Penske...we'll straighten him out.

You're not Penske material!

[Darkleaf]

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A buck for a beer, 20% on dinners usually. Date a few waitresses and you will never short change a server again unless the service is bad.

[slickdtc]

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Funny thing just happened. My wife called in some apps for pick up at a popular chain restaurant. Thought it was still half price hour, so she asked. The lady on the phone said, "No it's not K thanks bye" and hung up. We were still gonna order...

So she called back and was like WTF? The person who answers this time was a good server, and the manager hooked it up with a free dessert and then called back minutes later to tell us the order would be half price as well. We didn't even ask for this, just gave it. (And seeing people game the system for discounts, I almost felt guilty).

I get that people probably ask and then bitch about half price hours all the time, but we were just asking, we don't care about paying full price. You can't jump on a customer for no reason.

Anyway, just picked it up. Me and my wife have both been servers, we know the life and we've never treated anyone that way no matter how much they deserved it or how much other customers pissed us off.

Wrote in a fat tip and made sure to tell the manager to give it to the second server who answered. She was flagging him down as I walked out...

Excellent job by server #2 and the manager. To server #1, you suck and are an embarrassment to all the good servers out there. You're the reason people get ****ty tips. The others are why they get rewarded for being decent people and going above and beyond.

[55]

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After spending all of last week in Manhattan, I am beginning to form a new opinion on what great service is. ******* if everywhere we went didn't have amazing service. I tipped even more generously than I normally do. Can't wait to go back.

[jeremym480]

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Joe's Crab Shack Tests No-Tipping Policy at 18 Locations

Servers at these restaurants will be paid a higher, fixed hourly rate and credit card receipts will no longer include a tip line, according to the company. Servers typically earn $2.13 an hour, the federal rate for tipped workers since 1991, plus tips.

The company did not specify the increased hourly wage.

Menu prices at the testing locations have increased "slightly" to account for the added labor costs, Blanchette said. The higher prices are "typically less than the average 20 percent service tip," he added.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/joes-crab-shack-tests-tipping-policy-18-locations/story?id=35134532

What do you guys think?

[dickey1331]

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I'm all for not tipping. I do it but I think it's dumb that it's basically required.

[Bobhead]

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Joe's Crab Shack Tests No-Tipping Policy at 18 Locations

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/joes-crab-shack-tests-tipping-policy-18-locations/story?id=35134532

What do you guys think?

I'm all for not tipping. I do it but I think it's dumb that it's basically required.

Agreed. I have no problem with people asking for tips or the tipping system in general. My problem is when wages are structured (ie: servers) so that the workers are dependent on tips. I shouldn't HAVE to tip, and a server shouldn't expect me to.

[Cusefan]

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I wish more restaurants would just get rid of tipping and build it into the menu pricing, I hate math so the less i have to do the better. If more more restaurants treated their positions as careers and not jobs, it would pay off.

[Redacted01]

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I wish more restaurants would just get rid of tipping and build it into the menu pricing, I hate math so the less i have to do the better. If more more restaurants treated their positions as careers and not jobs, it would pay off.

I think this is one of the poorest reasons to get rid of tipping. Many receipts print right on what 10, 15, 18, and 20% gratuity are. 99.9% of phones have a calculator. Or there is this trick which I learned when I was like 6.

Take your bill...

$24.75

Move the decimal...

2.48

Round to the nearest nickel/dime if math is that hard...

2.50

Double it...

$5.00

There's your tip.

If you want to be a cheap ***/had terrible service, don't double it. If you are conservative, add half instead of doubling. A little extra math, but nothing anyone that survived elementary school shouldn't be able to do.

As for them increasing base rates (which $14 is the number I'm seeing mostly), it's a good start. Most people's complaints I hear are "But my service will be terrible now!" Uhh... why? I go to the grocery store and don't give a tip to the cashier, but he/she has never sloppily thrown my bread and eggs in a bag. I go to the bank and deposit a check. I don't give the teller a tip and they are nice the whole time.

Maybe making guaranteed money would, I don't know, make them much more likely to give good service to everyone because they don't have to worry about the customer being an ******* or hoping they have a fat wallet and waiting on them hand and foot.

[Bobhead]

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The tip system sure as hell didn't make me a better server. I hated everyone.

[Trevytrev11]

Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

Joe's Crab Shack Tests No-Tipping Policy at 18 Locations

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/joes-crab-shack-tests-tipping-policy-18-locations/story?id=35134532

What do you guys think?

Heard about this on the radio this morning while listening to my wife who is a former server.

The benefit is that servers, on a slow night, still get paid. The fear of being stiffed is no longer an issue.

As a customer, you know that the price on the menu is what you are going to pay and don't have to worry about feeling obligated to add 15 - 20% on top for mediocre service.

There were a few cons brought up, most of which seemed obvious, but a few I did't think of right off the bat.

1) From a reward standpoint, the employee loses their incentive to go above and beyond. Obviously, they still have to be satisfactory to appease their bosses and retain their positions, but maybe they are not as attentive to empty glasses, requests for condiments, retrieving the bill.

2) Servers typically only have to claim tips for tax purposes that can be proven (credit card tips) and many either don't claim their cash tips or only a minimal %. They will now be in for a bit of a shock when their entire pay check is susceptible to federal and state taxes.

3) As a customer, you lose your recourse to punish crappy service via leaving a lower tip or not tipping in extreme situations.

4) The employee cannot reap the benefits of good tippers, loyal customers, holiday season tips, etc.

5) It can be assumed that a very good, attentive server makes the same as a crappy, negligent one on any given night.

I am sure the company will pay a fair wage, but I have to believe that the net impact from a financial standpoint is going to favor the company over the employee especially the really good ones that continuously hustle and outperform their counterparts.

Will be interesting to see/hear about the results after things get settled.

[NDAlum]

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I fully support the no tipping. I would much rather pay the fixed price.


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[Fresh Tendrils]

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2) Servers typically only have to claim tips for tax purposes that can be proven (credit card tips) and many either don't claim their cash tips or only a minimal %. They will now be in for a bit of a shock when their entire pay check is susceptible to federal and state taxes.

3) As a customer, you lose your recourse to punish crappy service via leaving a lower tip or not tipping in extreme situations.

2) What servers are required by law to do and what they may end up doing can be two entirely different things. They are required to report all tips no matter if they're credit/debit card tips, cash tips, or gift certificates. All tips received are reportable income.

With the rise of usage in debit cards I'm sure most servers are already experiencing this anyway.

3) You still have plenty of recourse left. If the server is doing a truly terrible job then request to see a supervisor or manager. If the experience is terrible then do not go back to the establishment. Tipping is after-the-fact anyway so you still have a crappy experience either way.


I really don't care one way or the other about tipping, but it will take awhile to change the way society and businesses handle tipping/paying of food servers.

[jeremym480]

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Heard about this on the radio this morning while listening to my wife who is a former server.

The benefit is that servers, on a slow night, still get paid. The fear of being stiffed is no longer an issue.

As a customer, you know that the price on the menu is what you are going to pay and don't have to worry about feeling obligated to add 15 - 20% on top for mediocre service.

There were a few cons brought up, most of which seemed obvious, but a few I did't think of right off the bat.

1) From a reward standpoint, the employee loses their incentive to go above and beyond. Obviously, they still have to be satisfactory to appease their bosses and retain their positions, but maybe they are not as attentive to empty glasses, requests for condiments, retrieving the bill.

2) Servers typically only have to claim tips for tax purposes that can be proven (credit card tips) and many either don't claim their cash tips or only a minimal %. They will now be in for a bit of a shock when their entire pay check is susceptible to federal and state taxes.

3) As a customer, you lose your recourse to punish crappy service via leaving a lower tip or not tipping in extreme situations.

4) The employee cannot reap the benefits of good tippers, loyal customers, holiday season tips, etc.

5) It can be assumed that a very good, attentive server makes the same as a crappy, negligent one on any given night.

I am sure the company will pay a fair wage, but I have to believe that the net impact from a financial standpoint is going to favor the company over the employee especially the really good ones that continuously hustle and outperform their counterparts.

Will be interesting to see/hear about the results after things get settled.

I agree with all of your points. I'm kind of split on the issue and can see pros and cons on each side. I feel like it would benefit servers on a slow night, but even then I feel like most of them could make more than 14-15 bucks an hour. We have a Joe's Crab Shack here and that's normally about what we tip and are usually in and out within an hours time and they have other tables as well.

On one hand I'm glad that servers won't get stiffed just because they have a customer who is a tight wad, but on the other I'm concerned that I won't be attended to the way I would be if they were actually working for a tip. I also feel like the quality of the staff would go down because the ones who expect to make more money would probably go elsewhere to places that allow tipping. I'm interested to see how it plays out, but like I said I can see the pros and cons of it.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Honestly, it would be more pressure on servers and the kitchen staff to get people in and out which is not the experience I look for when going out to a full service restaurant.