GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

[HustlinOwl]

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I don't have the balls to tell a waiter that I'm not tipping? Interesting.

So it's confirmed that CA pays minimum wage to waiters? If so then that's good news for me, as I am not that much of a prick not to tip KNOWING that my server doesn't even make minimum wage. I was under the belief before posting the thread that they were paid at least standard wages by the hour.

As I have said in posts in case you didn't bother reading, if a waiter/waitress goes above and beyond the call of duty I'll compensate. My OP was worded in language that I didn't intend. I go into a restraunt with the expectation not to tip. IF they show me that they deserved to be tipped, then they will probably get it. As a poor student myself, I'm not giving away money I'm not a charity.

I pay the guys that do my car, which by the way I drive a freaking Volvo, so I don't get it detailed weekly, probably do it like 4-5 times a year. Anyway I tip those dudes because I KNOW without a shadow of a doubt that these guys DON'T get paid minimum wage. Please let's not go any further into the car wash employees because it's not suitable for OS.

Dude give me a break at a carwash they get paid minimum wage as well no benefits etc.

Not only does my wife make minimum wage as a server, but a percentage of their tips are given to cooks and the bussers as well

[ex carrabba fan]

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Dude give me a break at a carwash they get paid minimum wage as well no benefits etc.

Not only does my wife make minimum wage as a server, but a percentage of their tips are given to cooks and the bussers as well

I will not further expunge on the car wash. So believe me or not I don't really care, but at any moment these guys might not even be living here anymore.

[HustlinOwl]

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I think that the majority of us would change our outlook on tipping if we worked off tips at one point or another.

I used to deliver pizzas a while back. Might not be the same as working in a restaurant or other job, but getting tipped sure did mean a lot to me and the other drivers. If I got a good tip from somebody, and I saw their name or house come up at a later date, I would do my best to get their order there as fast as possible anytime they ordered.

If I got a bad tip, or nothing at all, next time I don't care so much when they order. There are times when I would have to take 5 or 6 deliveries at once, and guess who I already had planned to get their order last, even if they ordered ahead of everyone else.

It also just upset me and my fellow drivers when we got little if anything at all. They'd come back cussing and calling the person names. Just puts every one in a bad mood. It's even worse if they had to drive somewhere REALLY far. But if they get a good tip, they are the happiest people in the world. We also would talk about whoever we just delivered to, so everybody would know who would tip well and who wouldn't.

I guess in my mind, I felt that if your ordering, you're being kind of lazy instead of coming and getting it yourself. So you should expect to tip. If you don't want to tip but want the food, go get it yourself. We use our own gas and put many miles on our personal vehicle with very little compensation, and we could have been taking someone else their order instead of yours. Plus, I know this may sound a little extreme, I felt like I'm risking my life every time I drove. Or at least risked getting into an accident. That is especially true when we are flying like we have to, to make sure all orders get their destination on time. I also expected even more tip when it was raining. We don't like driving in the rain anymore than you do. And we could get jacked at any time. A few of our drivers got robbed, held at gun point making a delivery.

So now whenever I go anywhere, I give a good tip. I also have that little stereotype in the back of mind as well. I know I shouldn't be tipping like I do being in college. But I can't help it.


I'm going to leave you guys speaking for all the delivery drivers out there. Tip them please. Give them a little more if you know you live farther away. Make sure you tell your children or teenagers that to tip if they are ordering. And please don't send your kids to the door to avoid showing face because you don't want to tip.

Love pizza delivery and always tip them nicely!!

[HustlinOwl]

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I will not further expunge on the car wash. So believe me or not I don't really care, but at any moment these guys might not even be living here anymore.

I work in economic and workforce development and trust me if businesses are doing hiring practices like that they will no longer be in business.

[ZB9]

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If you don't tip, that is fine, though I bet you wouldn't have the balls to tell the server ahead of time that you weren't going to tip.

lol yea that is pretty messed up if someone will let a waiter work to serve you (and probably give them crap along the way), then stiff them...KNOWING that is how they make their money

It's not just about being cheap and saving money either. If you wanted to save money, you wouldnt go to that restaurant in the first place. Go to Albertsons, HEB, or Costco or something. The characteristic is something more than being a tightwad.

[KG]

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People can cry the blues about the fact that waiters/waitresses make such a small hourly wage rate but I honestly don't feel sorry for them at all. There are people that do that for a living at decent/upscale restaurants that make good money. I know college grads from good schools that do this because the money is that good. Yeah, your check might be $30 for 2 weeks but all that cash you make, which chances are you lie about on your taxes (perfectly fine with me), equates to making more money in the long run.

Thats the reason y you make such a low hourly wage.

[davin]

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For me, I always tip. I've had several friends who work as waiters or in the food industry so I know some of the backround of these places. Usually whenever my girlfriend and I go out, we are getting very simple things (we just like the simple food, chicken fingers and fries or simple pasta, etc). Whenever it is really busy and somebody takes the effort to get us our stuff always on time and make sure we have enough water and all of that is nice, so I usually tip above the 15% as our bill will most likely come out to 20-25 dollars. I had an interesting situation before though, we were at an Italian restaurant, Bravos a couple weeks back. I was back from OSU for spring break and a friend from my old school worked there (he used to work at another italian restaurant, but I saw him in this one and said hey and we talked a bit, though he was on duty). Our waitress was horrible with getting our stuff to us. It wasn't amazingly busy, and we waited over an hour for our meals (which I understand sometimes the kitchen gets busy), but she went over an hour without refilling our water. My friend saw this and basically did her job for her the rest of the night, but she didn't know about it (she didn't understand how our waters were magically refilled). He came by when he had free time, told us about the desserts, went through the desert menu really detailed. We got excellent service from him. I think our actual waitress realized this after we got our dessert (which he brought) and she tried to be really nice and all that (to improve her tip). I gave her two dollars, and stopped him and gave him 8.

Tipping in the food industry is a really good thing to do in my opinion. In other aspects I sometimes feel bad that the first time I did them, I didn't know you were supposed to pay, some of those valet guys at my prom had to hate me.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I work in economic and workforce development and trust me if businesses are doing hiring practices like that they will no longer be in business.

LOL ok, I honestly don't know what to tell ya then. Until you come out here and see all of the things I see, I really couldn't care less what your job title is.

[TMagic]

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Has anyone tried something like this when going to a restaurant as I've thought about trying something like this:

Tell your waiter from the get go how much you plan on tipping. Like the maximum amount that they could get serving you. So you tell the waiter that you are starting him or her off at six dollars.

Then tell them based on their service and their attitude, that could come down. It won't go up any further. But it will be deducted from with every little thing that you were not particularly fond of during your time in the restaurant.

So say that they don't give you a refill after a long while. Or walk by your table a few times without asking if you needed anything. That would result in a deduction here and there. That way by the end of the night they can pretty much judge by how much you paid them, how well their service was. Not only that, but they will probably give better service knowing how much they could possibly make. If they don't get a lot in the end, they probably won't think of you as a cheapo considering the amount you started them at.

I know that if I knew how much I could get from the start, I would give the very best service I could.

Has anyone tried something like this? What do you guys think about that?

[HustlinOwl]

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LOL ok, I honestly don't know what to tell ya then. Until you come out here and see all of the things I see, I really couldn't care less what your job title is.

Funny you would even support a place like that

[Brandwin]

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I don't understand the I have to tip no matter how the service was. I thought that was part of your job, providing good service? Why must I reward someone that does an awful job?

[KG]

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LOL ok, I honestly don't know what to tell ya then. Until you come out here and see all of the things I see, I really couldn't care less what your job title is.

yeah man, same here. The kind of employees places like that hire could be gone at 12 and replaced by 12:15. It's life.

[av7]

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Has anyone tried something like this when going to a restaurant as I've thought about trying something like this:

Tell your waiter from the get go how much you plan on tipping. Like the maximum amount that they could get serving you. So you tell the waiter that you are starting him or her off at six dollars.

Then tell them based on their service and their attitude, that could come down. It won't go up any further. But it will be deducted from with every little thing that you were not particularly fond of during your time in the restaurant.

So say that they don't give you a refill after a long while. Or walk by your table a few times without asking if you needed anything. That would result in a deduction here and there. That way by the end of the night they can pretty much judge by how much you paid them, how well their service was. Not only that, but they will probably give better service knowing how much they could possibly make. If they don't get a lot in the end, they probably won't think of you as a cheapo considering the amount you started them at.

I know that if I knew how much I could get from the start, I would give the very best service I could.

Has anyone tried something like this? What do you guys think about that?

It may just be me but thats not hte best route to go. It's almost snobbish in a way, for me atleast. I would think for some if that happened, you'd get ignored more than anything.

[Thrasha]

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People can cry the blues about the fact that waiters/waitresses make such a small hourly wage rate but I honestly don't feel sorry for them at all. There are people that do that for a living at decent/upscale restaurants that make good money. I know college grads from good schools that do this because the money is that good. Yeah, your check might be $30 for 2 weeks but all that cash you make, which chances are you lie about on your taxes (perfectly fine with me), equates to making more money in the long run.

Thats the reason y you make such a low hourly wage.

I'm not sure what your point is... Yes our hourly wage is inordinately low because we make tips.

Yes, you can make very good money working at an upscale restaurant.

Whats your point? The discussion is about tipping.

[fistofrage]

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Bro you're not making compelling points by making cheap jokes like that. No I don't want them to wipe my mouth, I want them to be attentive, make sure they got our orders right, make sure we have drinks, make sure the food is made alright.

I would personally be offended if I was eating at a restaurant with you and you stiffed the wait staff. You claim to be a poor college kid and not a charity, but you detail a Volvo 5 times a year and tip the staff all the while supporting illegal immigration. I don't get it, I'll leave it at that.