GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

[fishepa]

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mjb's a high roller.

[aukevin]

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If someone is that bad why not just ask to talk with a manager and be asked to move into another section? Simply not tipping them is not showing them that they are horrible or are doing a bad job. Might make them think that you are cheap

I do speak with the manager when the service is just awful. I guess they could see me as cheap, but I guess I have always hoped they would see it as they did a poor job. And a poor job to me is one where it is obvious that they just don't care about the job, I can understand when things are busy. Of course, if someone doesn't care about their job in the first place, me not tipping them well as a sign of their bad work probably wouldn't motivate them either. But I'd rather them think I am cheap than give them a good tip for their poor job.

[ZB9]

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folks that have problem tipping waiters/waitresses, would probably change their minds if they had experienced being a waiter/waitress at any time.

if not for tips, they wouldnt make any money. I guess you feel that you deserve to be served basically for free?

[Brandwin]

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I tip based on how well the service was. I don't do at 15% minimum or anything

[JohnnytheSkin]

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When we go out I usually tip 18% for good service, 10-15% for mediocre, and my wife and I have left no or an extremely feeble tip on a half dozen occasions. Like someone else mentioned I typically leave a little less for lunch, but that's because the meal is over a lot faster so the waitperson doesn't have to fetch refills, more bread, etc.

Tipping a bartender for every drink, however ($2 PER BEER ) seems a bit excessive. Maybe over the course of the night I'll tip if I'm watching a game at a bar, but not on a per drink basis...unless you're trying to get in her pants or you have DEEP pockets.

[HustlinOwl]

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When we go out I usually tip 18% for good service, 10-15% for mediocre, and my wife and I have left no or an extremely feeble tip on a half dozen occasions. Like someone else mentioned I typically leave a little less for lunch, but that's because the meal is over a lot faster so the waitperson doesn't have to fetch refills, more bread, etc.

Tipping a bartender for every drink, however ($2 PER BEER ) seems a bit excessive. Maybe over the course of the night I'll tip if I'm watching a game at a bar, but not on a per drink basis...unless you're trying to get in her pants or you have DEEP pockets.

I have been to a lot of places where if it comes to beer I usually get for free from just building a rapport with the bartender.

[Trevytrev11]

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I am 100% against tipping people in the food industry, word to Reservoir Dogs. Why is it expected for them to get tipped for their service, while others in much more serious services which are arguably more demanding, NEVER get tipped?

As said before, probably because the people in these highly demanded positions aren't making $3 an hour. If a position is highly demanded, it will be paid accordingly. Tell me a serious, highly demanded position that isn't paid accordingly. Plus for many, they have been in that position and know what that server has been through.

Besides California (in which servers make minimum wage + tips) most other states pay their employee's a lot less so that only with tips their salary hits or exceeds mimimum wage. Plus for many companies, assumed tips are used to base taxes off (usually only like 8%), so when you fail to tip your waitress, not only are you just screwing her out of a tip, but she's likely paying taxes on the assumed amount that you didn't give her.

And as others have said, it is a system in place that encourages good service. Servers who provide good service should benefit from better tips, which entices them to be more attentive to their customers and gives the customer a reason to come back.

You to to BK, you place your order, you wait for your food, you find a seat, you fill up your soda, get your own refills and hopefully throw away your trash.

You go to a place as simple as Chili's, you are seated, you're order is taken, you are brought drinks, you are brought your food. If you need extra condiments, they are brought to you, refills are brought to you and you leave your mess at the table for someone else to clean up.

However, the employee at Chili's is paid less of a base wage than that at BK. Chili's could jack up the wages and then jack up the price of the food to go along with it, but people would complain about that. The $8.50 burger is now $11.50 because the wage of their employee went from $2.85 to $6.00, which also means their Payroll taxes went up, their medical benefit may have went up and their workers comp went up as well.

If you don't tip, that is fine, though I bet you wouldn't have the balls to tell the server ahead of time that you weren't going to tip.

Personally, average tip is 20%, 25+% for great service and 10-15% for bad service. Only once have I ever stiffed a waiter and it was not only because he was bad, but because he was just a rude prick.

It's all part of the meal for me. We eat out once or twice a week and I notice good service and it makes the meal more enjoyable for me.

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As far as not tipping others, why do you tip the guy who washes your car and no one else?

[Thrasha]

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I am a waiter, and before that, growing up my mother always taught 20% was the minimum to leave, 20%+ if the service warrants it. And by no means were we wealthy.

And if you are a poor tipper, expect poor service. Especially if you are someone the waiter/waitress remembers you'll get especially poor service. That's just the way it goes.

I've had tables where I remember who left what, when they come back in, and if they order a mixed drink, I'll make sure to let the bartender know to short pour the drink. That's just the way it goes.

Edit: Just to note, I make 2.43 an hour and after taxes my paycheck every two weeks is about $30.00, so unless you're waiting tables in the north-west (I've heard they make a considerable amount more an hour there) you pretty much live and die by your tips made.

[ex carrabba fan]

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As said before, probably because the people in these highly demanded positions aren't making $3 an hour. If a position is highly demanded, it will be paid accordingly. Plus for many, they have been in that position and know what that server has been through.

Besides California (in which servers make minimum wage + tips) most other states pay their employee's a lot less so that only with tips their salary hits or exceeds mimimum wage. Plus for many companies, assumed tips are used to base taxes off (usually only like 8%), so when you fail to tip your waitress, not only are you just screwing her out of a tip, but she's likely paying taxes on the assumed amount that you didn't give her.

And as others have said, it is a system in place that encourages good service. Servers who provide good service should benefit from better tips, which entices them to be more attentive to their customers and gives the customer a reason to come back.

You to to BK, you place your order, you wait for your food, you find a seat, you fill up your soda, get your own refills and hopefully throw away your trash.

You go to a place as simple as Chili's, you are seated, you're order is taken, you are brought drinks, you are brought your food. If you need extra condiments, they are brought to you, refills are brought to you and you leave your mess at the table for someone else to clean up.

However, the employee at Chili's is paid less of a base wage than that at BK. Chili's could jack up the wages and then jack up the price of the food to go along with it, but people would complain about that. The $8.50 burger is now $11.50 because the wage of their employee went from $2.85 to $6.00, which also means their Payroll taxes went up, their medical benefit may have went up and their workers comp went up as well.

If you don't tip, that is fine, though I bet you wouldn't have the balls to tell the server ahead of time that you weren't going to tip.

Personally, average tip is 20%, 25+% for great service and 10-15% for bad service. Only once have I ever stiffed a waiter and it was not only because he was bad, but because he was just a rude prick.

It's all part of the meal for me. We eat out once or twice a week and I notice good service and it makes the meal more enjoyable for me.

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As far as not tipping others, why do you tip the guy who washes your car and no one else?

I don't have the balls to tell a waiter that I'm not tipping? Interesting.

So it's confirmed that CA pays minimum wage to waiters? If so then that's good news for me, as I am not that much of a prick not to tip KNOWING that my server doesn't even make minimum wage. I was under the belief before posting the thread that they were paid at least standard wages by the hour.

As I have said in posts in case you didn't bother reading, if a waiter/waitress goes above and beyond the call of duty I'll compensate. My OP was worded in language that I didn't intend. I go into a restraunt with the expectation not to tip. IF they show me that they deserved to be tipped, then they will probably get it. As a poor student myself, I'm not giving away money I'm not a charity.

I pay the guys that do my car, which by the way I drive a freaking Volvo, so I don't get it detailed weekly, probably do it like 4-5 times a year. Anyway I tip those dudes because I KNOW without a shadow of a doubt that these guys DON'T get paid minimum wage. Please let's not go any further into the car wash employees because it's not suitable for OS.

[Thrasha]

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That is propaganda that every server I know tries promulgate to the masses.

10% at lunch, 15% at dinner.

Yeah, because servers work a lot less when they are taking your order at lunch.

What a joke

[ex carrabba fan]

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I am a waiter, and before that, growing up my mother always taught 20% was the minimum to leave, 20%+ if the service warrants it. And by no means were we wealthy.

And if you are a poor tipper, expect poor service. Especially if you are someone the waiter/waitress remembers you'll get especially poor service. That's just the way it goes.

I've had tables where I remember who left what, when they come back in, and if they order a mixed drink, I'll make sure to let the bartender know to short pour the drink. That's just the way it goes.

Edit: Just to note, I make 2.43 an hour and after taxes my paycheck every two weeks is about $30.00, so unless you're waiting tables in the north-west (I've heard they make a considerable amount more an hour there) you pretty much live and die by your tips made.

Yeah Thrasha, just so you know I was ignorant to the fact that servers get paid below minimum wage. Although Trev mentioned that CA servers get paid minimum so who knows.

With that said, it's the other way around man.. if I get poor service you should expect a poor tip. I don't get how you say that if you're a poor tipper, expect poor service.

[Thrasha]

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I don't have the balls to tell a waiter that I'm not tipping? Interesting.

So it's confirmed that CA pays minimum wage to waiters? If so then that's good news for me, as I am not that much of a prick not to tip KNOWING that my server doesn't even make minimum wage. I was under the belief before posting the thread that they were paid at least standard wages by the hour.

As I have said in posts in case you didn't bother reading, if a waiter/waitress goes above and beyond the call of duty I'll compensate. My OP was worded in language that I didn't intend. I go into a restraunt with the expectation not to tip. IF they show me that they deserved to be tipped, then they will probably get it. As a poor student myself, I'm not giving away money I'm not a charity.

I pay the guys that do my car, which by the way I drive a freaking Volvo, so I don't get it detailed weekly, probably do it like 4-5 times a year. Anyway I tip those dudes because I KNOW without a shadow of a doubt that these guys DON'T get paid minimum wage. Please let's not go any further into the car wash employees because it's not suitable for OS.

Well, do you tell your server that you don't intend on tipping them?

And what is "above and beyond the call of duty"? Would you like them to wipe your mouth for you?

[TMagic]

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I think that the majority of us would change our outlook on tipping if we worked off tips at one point or another.

I used to deliver pizzas a while back. Might not be the same as working in a restaurant or other job, but getting tipped sure did mean a lot to me and the other drivers. If I got a good tip from somebody, and I saw their name or house come up at a later date, I would do my best to get their order there as fast as possible anytime they ordered.

If I got a bad tip, or nothing at all, next time I don't care so much when they order. There are times when I would have to take 5 or 6 deliveries at once, and guess who I already had planned to get their order last, even if they ordered ahead of everyone else.

It also just upset me and my fellow drivers when we got little if anything at all. They'd come back cussing and calling the person names. Just puts every one in a bad mood. It's even worse if they had to drive somewhere REALLY far. But if they get a good tip, they are the happiest people in the world. We also would talk about whoever we just delivered to, so everybody would know who would tip well and who wouldn't.

I guess in my mind, I felt that if your ordering, you're being kind of lazy instead of coming and getting it yourself. So you should expect to tip. If you don't want to tip but want the food, go get it yourself. We use our own gas and put many miles on our personal vehicle with very little compensation, and we could have been taking someone else their order instead of yours. Plus, I know this may sound a little extreme, I felt like I'm risking my life every time I drove. Or at least risked getting into an accident. That is especially true when we are flying like we have to, to make sure all orders get their destination on time. I also expected even more tip when it was raining. We don't like driving in the rain anymore than you do. And we could get jacked at any time. A few of our drivers got robbed, held at gun point making a delivery.

So now whenever I go anywhere, I give a good tip. I also have that little stereotype in the back of mind as well. I know I shouldn't be tipping like I do being in college. But I can't help it.


I'm going to leave you guys speaking for all the delivery drivers out there. Tip them please. Give them a little more if you know you live farther away. Make sure you tell your children or teenagers that to tip if they are ordering. And please don't send your kids to the door to avoid showing face because you don't want to tip.

[Brandwin]

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I am a waiter, and before that, growing up my mother always taught 20% was the minimum to leave, 20%+ if the service warrants it. And by no means were we wealthy.

And if you are a poor tipper, expect poor service. Especially if you are someone the waiter/waitress remembers you'll get especially poor service. That's just the way it goes.

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LOL yeah right I am not tipping 20% because that's what others think we should tip. You do a piss poor job you're going to get a bad tip. Why should I tip you 20% and you do a horrible job?

So yeah I will tip bad if you do a bad job and if you do it again next time I come in I will tell the manager that it happened twice so maybe the next time I come in you won't have a chance to do horrible job.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Well, do you tell your server that you don't intend on tipping them?

And what is "above and beyond the call of duty"? Would you like them to wipe your mouth for you?

Bro you're not making compelling points by making cheap jokes like that. No I don't want them to wipe my mouth, I want them to be attentive, make sure they got our orders right, make sure we have drinks, make sure the food is made alright.