Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

[baumy300]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

The funniest part about this whole thread is the fact that all of the tough guys in here would care less about this situation even if a man walked up to the victim point blank in a church and shot him square in the head.

You would get a few "People are sick" responses and what not, but just because it is a police officer everyone wants to see him get the death penalty or spend his entire remaining life behind bars.

I'm not saying what he did is right or wrong, but the whole the fact that people only want to see him fry because of his job title and not his crime is sickening.

[GSW]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

The funniest part about this whole thread is the fact that all of the tough guys in here would care less about this situation even if a man walked up to the victim point blank in a church and shot him square in the head.

You would get a few "People are sick" responses and what not, but just because it is a police officer everyone wants to see him get the death penalty or spend his entire remaining life behind bars.

I'm not saying what he did is right or wrong, but the whole the fact that people only want to see him fry because of his job title and not his crime is sickening.

People are sick, and this cop shouldnt have drawn a weapon.

happy now?

[Cebby]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

The funniest part about this whole thread is the fact that all of the tough guys in here would care less about this situation even if a man walked up to the victim point blank in a church and shot him square in the head.

1. You're wrong. In just about every topic in that vein, people call for an execution

2. The bigger difference:

NOBODY WOULD BE DEFENDING THE PERSON IN QUESTION

Aside from 8s, I don't think anyone here particularly hates cops. However, imagine if there was video of someone walking up and blasting a cop from the back with a shotgun and you had people saying:

"That angle just isn't clear enough to see what's going on!"

"You just hate all *whatever profession triggerman occupies"

"Maybe he thought his shotgun was a BB Gun!"

"He probably did something to deserve it"

I'm sure you wouldn't entirely be pleased.

But still my biggest question, why in the world would a police officer not want to see this guy fry? This guy just single handedly reinforced damn near every police stereotype, has brought a degree of hatred towards your profession, and could contribute to a police losing his life.

[jmood88]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

1. You're wrong. In just about every topic in that vein, people call for an execution

2. The bigger difference:

NOBODY WOULD BE DEFENDING THE PERSON IN QUESTION

Aside from 8s, I don't think anyone here particularly hates cops. However, imagine if there was video of someone walking up and blasting a cop from the back with a shotgun and you had people saying:

"That angle just isn't clear enough to see what's going on!"

"You just hate all *whatever profession triggerman occupies"

"Maybe he thought his shotgun was a BB Gun!"

"He probably did something to deserve it"

I'm sure you wouldn't entirely be pleased.

But still my biggest question, why in the world would a police officer not want to see this guy fry? This guy just single handedly reinforced damn near every police stereotype, has brought a degree of hatred towards your profession, and could contribute to a police losing his life.

You said it all.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

1. You're wrong. In just about every topic in that vein, people call for an execution

2. The bigger difference:

NOBODY WOULD BE DEFENDING THE PERSON IN QUESTION

Aside from 8s, I don't think anyone here particularly hates cops. However, imagine if there was video of someone walking up and blasting a cop from the back with a shotgun and you had people saying:

"That angle just isn't clear enough to see what's going on!"

"You just hate all *whatever profession triggerman occupies"

"Maybe he thought his shotgun was a BB Gun!"

"He probably did something to deserve it"

I'm sure you wouldn't entirely be pleased.

But still my biggest question, why in the world would a police officer not want to see this guy fry? This guy just single handedly reinforced damn near every police stereotype, has brought a degree of hatred towards your profession, and could contribute to a police losing his life.

[Keirik]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

But still my biggest question, why in the world would a police officer not want to see this guy fry? This guy just single handedly reinforced damn near every police stereotype, has brought a degree of hatred towards your profession, and could contribute to a police losing his life.

i'll answer that. Why don't people like me want to see the guy fry? Because every single police officer KNOWS how this can easily happen to any single one of us who serve the public. Do you have any clue how fast we have to make decisions when it comes to these kinds of things? Whether the guy is holding a cell phone in his hand and it's dark, a guy reaching into his pocket when told not to, a furtive movement when instructed to not move, to whatever else is out there. Heck, in Dallas just last week an officer was shot and kiled when he knocked on the door to try and serve an arrest warrant to man for aggravated assault. It's a job where an officer could be asked to make a life or death decision at any given moment of any given day.


This guy did NOT reinforce any stereotype, and anyone who buys into those dumb stereotypes is an *** anyway.

If this truly was an accident, such as him thinking he was grabbing a taser instead only reinforces one thing. Police are just as human as anyone else and a split second mistake can either lead to the death of an undeserving suspect or fellow officer by reacting too slowly in hesitation.


It's exactly why people like myself are asking for more information before passing judgment. If it turns out he intended to murder this guy or acted recklessly in his use of a firearm, then sure let him fry. He deserves it. However if this was a tragic accident or misjudgment of some kind, then why should he fry? Is he less human now?

Seems to me that just the fact that you dont even get that part shows to me the biggest problem comes from people such as yourself that jump to conclusions without ever knowing any facts.

who the hell gives a crap about stereotypes??????? It's irrelevant. It's more important to find out the truth of what actually happened. We are human too.

[J.R. Locke]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

It shows murder. If you want to shoot suspected prisoners, you should go to the Sudan, Nazi Germany, or Soviet Russia. In America, that behavior is unacceptable.

Or you could realize that this nation was built upon this type of violence. Man oh man life on the territory still tough to this day.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

I just hope that there isn't someway that this cop beats the murder trial and goes free.

There will be a violent riot[s] more people will be hurt or die if that happens. And yes, the officer will be murdered as well. It's fairly apparent the officer is not going to be "happy" ever again.

[GSW]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

1. You're wrong. In just about every topic in that vein, people call for an execution

2. The bigger difference:

NOBODY WOULD BE DEFENDING THE PERSON IN QUESTION

Aside from 8s, I don't think anyone here particularly hates cops. However, imagine if there was video of someone walking up and blasting a cop from the back with a shotgun and you had people saying:

"That angle just isn't clear enough to see what's going on!"

"You just hate all *whatever profession triggerman occupies"

"Maybe he thought his shotgun was a BB Gun!"

"He probably did something to deserve it"

I'm sure you wouldn't entirely be pleased.

But still my biggest question, why in the world would a police officer not want to see this guy fry? This guy just single handedly reinforced damn near every police stereotype, has brought a degree of hatred towards your profession, and could contribute to a police losing his life.

FTW.

[baumy300]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

But still my biggest question, why in the world would a police officer not want to see this guy fry? This guy just single handedly reinforced damn near every police stereotype, has brought a degree of hatred towards your profession, and could contribute to a police losing his life.

Because in this profession we don't just throw our co-workers under the bus and wish the worst upon them.

There is no reason this officer should lose his life, just because the other man did. We give each other the benefit of the doubt until we no longer have reason to. This is what seperates us from your average company workers who would care less about the people in the cubicle next to them. You think different of the people you work with when you need to trust them with your life and when they need to do the same.

It's a bond and brotherhood that many of you will never understand.

[WazzuRC]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

This isn't the Salem Witch trials where we just go by one piece of evidence and ignore every other factor. It's 2009.

Yeah, but that piece of evidence is pretty incriminating is it not?!

I'm not saying the guy is a cold-blooded murderer, but you're looking for more evidence when the evidence is clear. I don't know how much more evidence you need. You aren't going to get another angle more than likely so it's pretty crystal clear to me IMO.

[Cebby]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

We give each other the benefit of the doubt until we no longer have reason to.

And clear video of him firing a shot into the back of an unarmed man on the ground doesn't constitute reason?

It's a bond and brotherhood that many of you will never understand.

Why would you want to bond with a murderer?

Call me old fashioned, but I judge people on their actions and character instead of their chosen professions.

[Keirik]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

And clear video of him firing a shot into the back of an unarmed man on the ground doesn't constitute reason?



Why would you want to bond with a murderer?

Call me old fashioned, but I judge people on their actions and character instead of their chosen professions.

wtf country are you even from dude? You go on about how this shooting is comparable to Nazi Germany, yet you condemn him without ANY facts coming out as a murderer already just based on one video that has no audio, no other angle, blurry, doesn't show the events leading up to, no testimony from anyone yet, etc etc..



that's beyond hypocritical. Thank god we have due process. Call me old fashioned, but one video does not tell the entire story.

What if a week from now it comes out that one of the adjacent officers comes out and says "i heard him say to stand back, deploying taser on suspect". Is he still a murderer then or does this then turn into a tragic accident that could have been avoided if the BART police had better training? It was only a few weeks prior that they were even given authorization to carry a taser.

[stizz]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Why would he need to deploy his taser if two officers were already on top of him? There was no need to even draw a weapon in that situation, the only reason would be if he was trying to look like a hero.

Also, why are the tasers shaped like handguns? Wouldn't the designers think about situations like this during the design process?

[jmood88]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Why would he need to deploy his taser if two officers were already on top of him? There was no need to even draw a weapon in that situation, the only reason would be if he was trying to look like a hero.

Also, why are the tasers shaped like handguns? Wouldn't the designers think about situations like this during the design process?

They are so far apart in weight that the "I thought I was shooting my Taser" argument just looks even more ridiculous.