Is this evil??

[JBH3]

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They all think they have the answers and they don't. No one does,

For the record I never said do and say as I do, but I did disagree w/ you in every one of your posts because (1) You didn't even read it thoroughly to begin with (2) Your generalizations are grossly wrong/negligent.

[USF11]

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Suit yourself. I could careless. Just don't include me in your sweeping generalizations about how you think others are as pathetic as you.


...you forgot to mention that the principal was a veteran...

You can say whatever you want. The "emotional" one me is not going to resort to "childish name calling.

[cubsfan203]

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I would have posted a picture of a ring girl....but I don't want to get warned for PG-13

[JBH3]

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You can say whatever you want. The "emotional" one me is not going to resort to "childish name calling.

"Childish name calling".... it isn't name calling. I really think, given how you've portrayed yourself in this thread, that you're pathetic. Excuse me for being honest...I guess...

Childish name calling would be calling you a stupid-head. Which I clearly have not done.

[USF11]

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I can't retort without getting the thread locked.

I am pathetic for saying that Odogg thoughts are not abnormal at all. OK.

You will understand someday. Until then you are blessed with an ignorance I will never have.

[fistofrage]

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I can't retort without getting the thread locked.

I am pathetic for saying that Odogg thoughts are not abnormal at all. OK.

You will understand someday. Until then you are blessed with an ignorance I will never have.

If you and ODogg want to go around and wish evil on your friends and think its natural, that's fine.

But I'm here to tell you that alot of people grow out of their childish ways and are genuinely happy for friends who succeed. The ignorance is that you think every single person out there is waiting to bring their friends down, stab them in the back and think its just.

The problem is you make blanket statements. You made statements that included words like EVERYONE, WE ALL. Then you made stereotypical comments about wrestlers, christians, and the military. You like to generalize. Perhaps you and OD0gg can join some group therapy together.

[slickdtc]

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There are many things in life that are taboo to talk about and this is one of them. You can't help how you think and it's hard to discuss it because people will look differently at you.

We're all supposed to be positive people for everyone but I think if somebody said they never had thoughts like this they are lying.

I've had them and I think they are normal.

Part 2. You need to find something positive in your life buddy because your overall tone lately in the Neighborhood has been rather pessimistic.

Is it bad I kinda hope you don't find it?

Hahaha I'm joking...or am I?

I guess stewaat's post on the first page of this thread went unnoticed. Well, besides myself, since I agreed with him.

And I think ODogg's original post has been misinterpreted (or maybe just interpreted differently then me?).

[duke776]

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I think I know what ODogg is talking about(although I do not agree with some of his wishes/thoughts). On his second post he said something about it being a little voice in your head saying something that you don't really wish but it's there. I've had that a few times, although it was about much less serious issues, and not wishing my friends harm in a way(which in his case is marraige). In my case it has never been something I have ever really wanted to happen, or wished upon someone, but just something that pops into my head for some reason. I have not had one of these occurences in a long while though, and am not a jealous person.

So to sum it up, I know what he's talking about, but haven't had thoughts like that about something that serious.

[JBH3]

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If you and ODogg want to go around and wish evil on your friends and think its natural, that's fine.

But I'm here to tell you that alot of people grow out of their childish ways and are genuinely happy for friends who succeed. The ignorance is that you think every single person out there is waiting to bring their friends down, stab them in the back and think its just.

The problem is you make blanket statements. You made statements that included words like EVERYONE, WE ALL. Then you made stereotypical comments about wrestlers, christians, and the military. You like to generalize. Perhaps you and OD0gg can join some group therapy together.

USF - Without having to actually mini-quote all of your posts related to what fist has just stated THIS is why I think you're pathetic.

Honestly, I'm anything but ignorant. And actually you failing to believe that there are people who DO NOT harbor the same feelings you so commonly refer to as "human nature" is plain dumb ignorance.

You've basically contradicted yourself...AGAIN.

And since you've got me pegged as some kind of "Do as I Do, because I know it all"...what are you...some college student minoring in psychology, thinking that you know the human condition.

I guess stewaat's post on the first page of this thread went unnoticed. Well, besides myself, since I agreed with him.

And I think ODogg's original post has been misinterpreted (or maybe just interpreted differently then me?).

It didn't go unnoticed. Where I disagree is with him saying that anyone who doesn't harbor these feelings about someone they consider a friend is lying. We are NOT all the same.

The people who do feel this way, or have felt this way want to band together to rationalize/normalize these feelings of wishing a friends marriage/family will fail because they're tired of hearing about how happy they are.

The best advice anyone can give ODogg is be a man and confront his friend. Straight up tell him you're tired of hearing about it all the time and it bothers you, and if he asks why answer him truthfully. If you don't give your friend this kind of respect then WTF are they you friends for?

Don't come to OS looking to vent, confront someone dammit.

Maybe we value friendship differently...I don't know. This has all gotten to the point of stupidty though.

[USF11]

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USF - Without having to actually mini-quote all of your posts related to what fist has just stated THIS is why I think you're pathetic.

Honestly, I'm anything but ignorant. And actually you failing to believe that there are people who DO NOT harbor the same feelings you so commonly refer to as "human nature" is plain dumb ignorance.

Human Nature Doesnt Change. Your way too prideful to admit your feelings. Are you married? Do you have kids? Do you have brothers or sisters?

Ask your wife about her past Boyfriends? Watch your kids work hard at something and fail only to see some other kid who didnt earn anything have it handed to them. Watch your parents treat a sibling differently then you.

Or look at a couple who is unable to have children, then watch people who have no business having kids spit them out once a year for a larger welfare check.


Your immune to things like jealous and envy. PLEASE.

I wish I was ignorant.

Please keep attacking me I find it amusing.

[ubernoob]

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Human Nature Doesnt Change. Your way too prideful to admit your feelings. Are you married? Do you have kids? Do you have brothers or sisters?

Ask your wife about her past Boyfriends? Watch your kids work hard at something and fail only to see some other kid who didnt earn anything have it handed to them. Watch your parents treat a sibling differently then you.

Or look at a couple who is unable to have children, then watch people who have no business having kids spit them out once a year for a larger welfare check.


Your immune to things like jealous and envy. PLEASE.

I wish I was ignorant.

Please keep attacking me I find it amusing.

Far be it from me to do a mod's job... but even in my state of mind I think this was unneeded.

Jealousy is a human factor. We have all had this little voice at some point in time - ODogg just chose to voice his on a more "public" scale. I agree with USF that at some point in time we have all felt this. Taking it a step further and voicing it might be cause for concern, but this is just a place to air out what we're feeling when it comes down to it. I don't know anyone here personally, therefore I am probably more open to saying what's on my mind. I'll use a personal example: If I let out about my feelings/actions today, I guarantee some would say I have issues and need counseling. Others would harass me. Maybe a member or two would have something that hits home.

I would be able to ignore the counseling/harassment remarks because none of you know me, but I would have learned something from the couple helpful posts. The more broad the audience, the bigger the chance of a "breakthrough" of sorts.

There is also a difference between a twinge of jealousy (or a little period of time feeling this) and harboring feelings of resentment for being happy.

If I had a friend that knew my situation with women was bad, and yet every time we met all he decided to talk about was how happy he was/how much he loved his girlfriend/wife... It would grow over time.

Then again I think I am more confrontational and would talk to him about it.

[JohnnytheSkin]

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I'm still waiting for ODogg, several questions and comments have been directed towards him.

No need for a e-war over perceived ignorance and contradictions that sidetracks the entire thread.

[ChubbyBanana]

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No need for a e-war over perceived ignorance and contradictions that sidetracks the entire thread.

I agree.

Let's try to keep it on topic.

[USF11]

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Not to steal ODoggs thread BUT...........

I am on my bike today enjoying the weather when I stop at a side street. There a squirrel in the road chewing on a nut. I then procede to look at older lady(late 40's) look directly at the squirrel and not only does she not stop her car, but she speeds up and runs over the squirrel.

Am I wrong to wish the squirrel had the capacity to drive a car to remove this women from the face of the earth?

[JBH3]

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Human Nature Doesnt Change. Your way too prideful to admit your feelings. Are you married? Do you have kids? Do you have brothers or sisters?

Ask your wife about her past Boyfriends? Watch your kids work hard at something and fail only to see some other kid who didnt earn anything have it handed to them. Watch your parents treat a sibling differently then you.

Or look at a couple who is unable to have children, then watch people who have no business having kids spit them out once a year for a larger welfare check.


Your immune to things like jealous and envy. PLEASE.

I wish I was ignorant.

Please keep attacking me I find it amusing.

You are.

These things you mention are all things you hold issue with.

I'm 27, married, have a 20 month old son, am in what society deems an inter-racial marriage, and am the oldest of 3 kids (bro 24, sis 20).

To prove you wrong given a real-life example on my behalf, we miss-carried on our first pregnancy, but never were we jealous or envious of people who could have children or people who had them and neglected them. We just continued to work through it, there were no diagnosed issues, and eventually we had our beautiful son.

Anything I've done in my life I've had to work hard for, and I'm not a rich person but I live comfortably enough to where I'm happy and the satisfaction of having worked hard to get here makes me happy for what I have and not jealous of what I don't have.

Nature has many different seasons, human nature has many different balances. That would be mean that your nature is to be jealous, envious, maybe spiteful while mine is the opposite or none of what your make-up is.

There is no black and white answer it's complicated, and for the very reason you see it as clear and cut and everyone is jealous but doesn't want to admit it, signifies your ignorance loud and clear.

Plus, I discussed this broad subject w/ my wife tonight, and she said that being jealous of someone because they have beautiful hair is one thing. Being jealous of someone and wishing there beautiful hair would fall out is another. The latter is where ODogg went w/ his first post, and has been what this whole thread is about.

Is it human nature? Well if O-Dogg feels this way, and you do and both of you I presume are human than I guess it's YOUR human nature...doesn't mean it's everybody's...If you can't see that then you're the ignorant one.