Something I Have Been Experiencing On The Subway

[z Revis]

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That's a shame right there. I can't believe people do that. I'll always give up my seat for an older person, pregnant, anyone in need.

Now giving up your seat to any woman of any age is going a little far IMO. I'll give up my seat to an older lady, pregnant or a lady with an obvious need to sit down but I do not see a reason to give a seat to a young girl who is just as healthy as me who can stand up.

Maybe it's because I'm in the military and view man/woman as equal and if you look healthy and ok then you can stand man or woman. I don't view woman as weak beings who can't endure standing for 20 minutes.

I am a gentleman and will offer anyone in need a seat but I do have a line.

Exactly. Same way I feel. If it were my girlfriend or some other friend/relative of mine that's a girl, then yes I'd give it up for her. But I'm not giving it up for a random stranger who can stand just as easily as me. If someone needs it, sure have my seat. Otherwise, no.

[WeLLWeLL]

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If it is a woman (elderly, pregnant, injured, or just in possession of the female anatomy), I don't see a problem in giving my seat up. My grandparents and parents raised me to be a gentleman, so offering my seat to someone is not much of a problem. Hell, if I have a cartload of groceries at the store and a person (be it male or female) only has a couple items on them I let them go ahead. I try not to let things bother me too much, so things like this are not much of an issue. Maybe if it kept happening repeatedly by the same person everyday I may raise an eyebrow or something, but until that day comes I would not know how to answer the question.

[legendkiller5]

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Exactly. Same way I feel. If it were my girlfriend or some other friend/relative of mine that's a girl, then yes I'd give it up for her. But I'm not giving it up for a random stranger who can stand just as easily as me. If someone needs it, sure have my seat. Otherwise, no.

If it is a woman (elderly, pregnant, injured, or just in possession of the female anatomy), I don't see a problem in giving my seat up. My grandparents and parents raised me to be a gentleman, so offering my seat to someone is not much of a problem. Hell, if I have a cartload of groceries at the store and a person (be it male or female) only has a couple items on them I let them go ahead. I try not to let things bother me too much, so things like this are not much of an issue. Maybe if it kept happening repeatedly by the same person everyday I may raise an eyebrow or something, but until that day comes I would not know how to answer the question.

No. Hell no. That is absolutely ridiculous. Chivalry should be dead. And like lilbenty said, women pretty much killed it for me.

[bgeno]

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If it is a woman (elderly, pregnant, injured, or just in possession of the female anatomy), I don't see a problem in giving my seat up. My grandparents and parents raised me to be a gentleman, so offering my seat to someone is not much of a problem.

That doesn't make you a gentleman. That might make you sexist more than anything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you sexist. I don't know you or your way of thinking, but if you are giving up a seat just because the person is a woman, it just kind of seems like to me that you don't think women can stand on their own and that, therefore, they aren't as good as men.

I'll give up a seat for an older woman or a pregnant woman or a woman with a disability. But it's the same way I'd give up a seat for an older man or a man with a disability. It doesn't have anything to do with gender.

Hell, if I have a cartload of groceries at the store and a person (be it male or female) only has a couple items on them I let them go ahead.

I do that because that's something a lot of other people have done for me and because I expect people to do it for me in the future. No woman has ever given up her seat for me on a bus, and, quite frankly, I don't expect them too. If she got the seat first, it's hers. I can stand.

Exactly. Same way I feel. If it were my girlfriend or some other friend/relative of mine that's a girl, then yes I'd give it up for her. But I'm not giving it up for a random stranger who can stand just as easily as me. If someone needs it, sure have my seat. Otherwise, no.

Absolutely.

No. Hell no. That is absolutely ridiculous. Chivalry should be dead. And like lilbenty said, women pretty much killed it for me.

That's what I always tell my female friends who say chivalry is dead.


One of my friend's friends said some guy held the door for her to get into her apartment and she was saying how amazed she was.

So my friend was like "that should happen more often... chivalry is dead."

My quick reply was "And women killed it."

"WHAT?" she said.

"Women killed it by dating *******s and being attracted to jerks. They killed it by taking advantage of sweet guys and being unappreciative of nice fellows."

And they agreed with me after that.

[Husker_OS]

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I'm beginning to see why people are so amazed at the generosity and hospitality when they visit the South.



I'm assuming the "grown *** men" who don't offer their seats in this thread, also don't offer them in other scenarios?

For example, you're at a small gathering and there's only one person standing and not sitting down. Said person is a female, do you not offer her your seat?

[P2K]

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I'm okay then with being an immature 27 year old because I will be courteous.

I'm not here telling anyone else how they have to act towards others, everyone is their own person.

But do you honestly believe that someone who continues to be courteous through their adult life isn't grown up?

That is one of the more ridiculous things I've heard. I'm not here to argue though so I will just leave it at me admitting to be an immature considerate individual.

You took my post personally. I wasn't talking about you. I was more talking about me. I applaud you. I'm just saying that I used to be like that. I was a kid doing all of that. I thought being extra courteous would make and other better folks.

What a crock of rat ****.

I found out that people could give a damn...I could go on and on. In the end...I refuse to go out of my way for anybody. For what?

But that's just me

[CMH]

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This thread is nonsense and ignores the realities of NYC Metro Transit.

Who are you and how are you managing to find a seat? My train ride to and from work is a nightmare I must endure while standing.

Come back to me when your thread talks about that woman that won't slide in to the middle of the train so everyone else can get in.

[WeLLWeLL]

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LOL at me being "sexist more than anything". I'm saying that if somebody asks to sit down, depending on the situation, I may be more inclined to give my seat up...IF THEY ASK. I'm not just getting up for somebody walking down the aisle. If they are polite about it, or have a good reason, then I really don't give a ****. No need to pass judgement on me or others who would do the same (and I know you said you don't know me, well...you're right). I've never encountered this situation before, just stating that I don't care...I'm now awaiting the smart-*** comments like, "Why sit down in the first place?".

Regardless of sex, color of skin, physical disability, or whatever, if you ask me if you can sit down, there is a chance I may let you.

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

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Now if it was an older person, man or woman I probably would have offered my seat if they looked like they needed it, just like if I'm leaving a store I hold the door open for someone man or woman. I don't do things just because someones a girl. Theres girls out there who know people do things for them just because they are a girl an try to take advantage of it. So I just treat everyone equal like it should be. No special treatment unless your in need of it.

[P2K]

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I'm beginning to see why people are so amazed at the generosity and hospitality when they visit the South.



I'm assuming the "grown *** men" who don't offer their seats in this thread, also don't offer them in other scenarios?

For example, you're at a small gathering and there's only one person standing and not sitting down. Said person is a female, do you not offer her your seat?

Why would you? Psshhh.

And stop it with this Southern charm school bullcrap, because we all know the South isn't Xanadu. No need going further on that.

[WeLLWeLL]

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Now if it was an older person, man or woman I probably would have offered my seat if they looked like they needed it, just like if I'm leaving a store I hold the door open for someone man or woman. I don't do things just because someones a girl. Theres girls out there who know people do things for them just because they are a girl an try to take advantage of it. So I just treat everyone equal like it should be. No special treatment unless your in need of it.

I agree with you here. Especially about the part about girls knowing dude's will do stuff for them especially because they are a girl. Glad my gf is a lot like hanging out with one of the guys and I don't have to deal with a lot of that stuff.

[Husker_OS]

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Why would you? Psshhh.

And stop it with this Southern charm school bullcrap, because we all know the South isn't Xanadu. No need going further on that.

Has nothing to do with charm school.


Has everything to do with how boys are raised in the south. And that's to respect your elders and be a gentleman to all females. And being a gentleman means giving up your seat to a woman if she is standing.



And if you don't want to be gentleman and give up your seat, then so be it. But don't sit there and pretend it's not a regional thing.

[bgeno]

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LOL at me being "sexist more than anything". I'm saying that if somebody asks to sit down, depending on the situation, I may be more inclined to give my seat up...IF THEY ASK. I'm not just getting up for somebody walking down the aisle. If they are polite about it, or have a good reason, then I really don't give a ****. No need to pass judgement on me or others who would do the same (and I know you said you don't know me, well...you're right). I've never encountered this situation before, just stating that I don't care...I'm now awaiting the smart-*** comments like, "Why sit down in the first place?".

Regardless of sex, color of skin, physical disability, or whatever, if you ask me if you can sit down, there is a chance I may let you.

Way to completely change your story... lol

You went from saying you'd give up your seat just because the person is "in possession of the female anatomy" to "I may be more inclined to give my seat up...IF THEY ASK."

I just assessed what you initially said. Now, though, you're backtracking.

[CMH]

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And stop it with this Southern charm school bullcrap

I really don't know why this even came up the first time, but it should end now.

I never thought that OS would move from other taboo topics to wars about the North vs. the South. You guys are taking steps back on a message board. It's childish. We already had to close on thread that centered on this new age topic on OS. End the North vs. South discussions. It's ridiculous.

[WeLLWeLL]

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Way to completely change your story... lol

You went from saying you'd give up your seat just because the person is "in possession of the female anatomy" to "I may be more inclined to give my seat up...IF THEY ASK."

I just assessed what you initially said. Now, though, you're backtracking.

How would I give my seat up to a person without them asking in the first place? That's what I don't understand. I kind of thought that would be implied in my post. Especially since this thread is about whether or not you would give up your seat to a person who asked the OP. It's all good though. Arguing is pointless.