Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

[oldsKoolnupe]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

WOW - a video gets you jail time???

[Knight165]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

I still don't see how people can defend him for drawing his gun, even if it isn't pointed directly at his face. The cop cuts him off, at that point the motorcycle guy has no idea he is a cop, how would he? It takes the cop 6 seconds to identify who he is after he gets out of the car. Common sense tells the motorcycle guy to back up when a random car has come just a few feet in front of you.

Look again at 3:34 of the vid. Looks like another State Trooper vehicle behind him....and my guess is both vehicles had a dash light and sirens.
He knew he was a P.O before the guy said a word.




You always draw when stopping.
You aim when you must.
At no time did he point his weapon at anyone....and once the guy stopped moving the cycle...he holstered.


M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

WOW - a video gets you jail time???

That sig is gonna get you some cell time!

M.K.
Knight165

[Aces15]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

If you're concentrating on the cop then I don't think you have the right idea in mind.

The issue here is simply videotaping the incident may get him SIXTEEN YEARS in prison. The cop could have went Yosemite Sam on him and shot into the air and the issue would STILL be the ridiculous law in place that would get him sixteen years in prison for videotaping a cop.

[Bahnzo]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

If you're concentrating on the cop then I don't think you have the right idea in mind.

The issue here is simply videotaping the incident may get him SIXTEEN YEARS in prison. The cop could have went Yosemite Sam on him and shot into the air and the issue would STILL be the ridiculous law in place that would get him sixteen years in prison for videotaping a cop.

Right, it was inevitable this thread would dissolve into "that cop is bad" vs "that cop is good", but it's still unfathomable that taking video of a police office would land you in jail. If anything this sounds like a law designed to protect a bad police officer from being exposed when doing something wrong. I can't believe it's on the books at all.

[TallyBoi7]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

It's wrong that this kid is looking at 16 years in prison for filming this. That's not right.

Also, the cop shouldn't have pulled the gun out. I've been stopped before and never had a police draw a gun on me(don't ever want to either).

[tsalbysp]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

You always draw when stopping.

This isn't ****ing Iraq, man.

This is precisely what is wrong with Law Enforcement. It is this disgusting idea that it is acceptable for the police to act like soldiers, and treat citizens of this nation as if they are potential terrorists or insurgents, that makes the idea of police being "peace officers" completely ridiculous.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

So, you think it is okay for an off-duty (or undercover, don't know which) officer, without identifying himself, to pull up beside a driver, pull out his firearm, and point it in said driver's face?

There are so many things wrong with that. First, the cop never identified himself. For all the guy knew, the cop could have been some crazy *** middle-aged guy pointing a gun in his face. Luckily the guy on the bike didn't have a gun, or else the situation could have gotten a lot uglier.

Secondly, how can you possibly find it acceptable for an officer to pull a gun on an individual who hasn't shown any signs of being a threat?

If some jackass who obviously doesn't have any thought to anyone elses safety is getting pulled over etc and I feel he may try and run. I'll be the "Gun waving" civilian.

Also.. "In the drivers face"??? really?


Do you know how many times officers actually don't draw their gun as they think it's a routine stop etc..?? only to be shot and many times killed due to the "non threat" assesment.

Most officers now take the no stop is routine thinking. Rightfully so.

Officer did absolutely nothing wrong. Now the idiot on the bike that was only thinking about himself..that's another story.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

Look again at 3:34 of the vid. Looks like another State Trooper vehicle behind him....and my guess is both vehicles had a dash light and sirens.
He knew he was a P.O before the guy said a word.




You always draw when stopping.
You aim when you must.
At no time did he point his weapon at anyone....and once the guy stopped moving the cycle...he holstered.


M.K.
Knight165

Exactly....

[ImTellinTim]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

This isn't ****ing Iraq, man.

This is precisely what is wrong with Law Enforcement. It is this disgusting idea that it is acceptable for the police to act like soldiers, and treat citizens of this nation as if they are potential terrorists or insurgents, that makes the idea of police being "peace officers" completely ridiculous.

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And here is where the thread's wheels fall off. You cannot be serious with this. This has nothing to do with anything going on in this video and only serves to stir up crap.

Next up - inevitable Nazi reference.

[The GIGGAS]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

Next up - inevitable Nazi reference.

Godwin's Law

[tsalbysp]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

And here is where the thread's wheels fall off. You cannot be serious with this. This has nothing to do with anything going on in this video and only serves to stir up crap.

How does it have nothing to do with anything on the video?

How can you possibly make that statement when the first thing the officer does, during a speeding incident, is pull out his firearm? Then you have Knight coming in and condoning this idea that drawing your weapon in such a situation is acceptable, and is in fact, necessary.

It isn't acceptable to draw your weapon for non-violent, non-hostile situations. Like I said, this isn't ****ing Iraq.

[Knight165]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

This isn't ****ing Iraq, man.

This is precisely what is wrong with Law Enforcement. It is this disgusting idea that it is acceptable for the police to act like soldiers, and treat citizens of this nation as if they are potential terrorists or insurgents, that makes the idea of police being "peace officers" completely ridiculous.

Really?

Tell that to these to fallen brothers families.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1105674.ece

There is always something ridiculous in these threads and it's rarely from something I post.

Welcome to the REAL world.

M.K.
Knight165

[tsalbysp]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

Really?

Tell that to these to fallen brothers families.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1105674.ece

There is always something ridiculous in these threads and it's rarely from something I post.

Welcome to the REAL world.

M.K.
Knight165

Unfortunate incidents happen, it is a part of the job. It is a risk those men took when they took the job. That still doesn't merit treating the streets of America as though they are a battleground, especially when there hadn't been any hostile action on the part of the bike rider.

[ImTellinTim]

Re: Man faces 16 years in jail for videotaping gun-waving cop

How does it have nothing to do with anything on the video?

How can you possibly make that statement when the first thing the officer does, during a speeding incident, is pull out his firearm? Then you have Knight coming in and condoning this idea that drawing your weapon in such a situation is acceptable, and is in fact, necessary.

It isn't acceptable to draw your weapon for non-violent, non-hostile situations. Like I said, this isn't ****ing Iraq.

That's fine. But you should try to make your point without bringing up terrorists, insurgents, and Iraq. It debases your entire argument.

Now, back on the topic. What the cop did is not the issue. He wasn't waving the gun in anyone's face and it was out for a few seconds. He pulled it out as a deterant to another high-speed chase situation, which police officers are trained to diffuse ASAP.

And on the other side, the punishment of (I'm assuming) a maximum of 16 years for this law is excessive and should be changed. The law is obviously intentioned to protect officers from inflammatory news stories in situations that are selectively edited and blown out of proportion. I think there's a place for that, but 16 years is incredibly harsh.