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  • TMagic
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    • Apr 2007
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    #31
    In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

    I was thinking a lot about what you guys said about how if she did it before, whats to stop her from doing it again. That made a ton of sense. So I asked her that very question.

    I woke up this morning and received this email from my ex...

    Originally posted by Ex Girlfriend
    You have to understand that the last time we talked in person, I thought I was starting to love someone else. That put me in a very difficult situation because it wouldn't have made sense for me to tell you that I still loved you when I was breaking up with you. If I would have, you would have just asked "then why are you leaving?" I feel that I did have love for my ex but over time it became more and more apparent that we had too many differences that would probably not work in the long run.

    When I started thinking of you again while I was with him, I felt very confused and torn. I had many dreams, at one point, that you and I were getting back together and I was so happy. Then at the end of the dream I would remember that I was still with Spencer and I couldn't do that. Every time I woke up I felt so guilty. I actually even told him once that I kept dreaming about you just because it felt so wrong. You know I'm so honest..maybe too much sometimes.

    I can confidently say that I think we were meant to be apart while we were. Although I may change the way that it happened, I wouldn't undo what happened. I think we were meant to experience everything we've experienced in between and it has made us more mature, stronger, and wiser. Honestly, one of my biggest issues about us when we were together was the fact that we were so young and had only known each other. While that may work for a select few, I don't think I would have been completely happy had we stayed together from the age of 16 & 17. I think it would have ended at some point, one way or another. But I also remember telling you that I thought we were so good for each other and it would have been perfect if we had met later in life. I can't help but to think of that now. I can assure you that, despite what I told you when we broke up, my love for you has never completely gone away. I don't think I would still think of you after all this time if it had. Do you?

    I have learned a lot about myself and about what is important in life. I think our relationships and experiences are really what make life worth living. I have learned characteristics of a partner that I would like and some that I won't tolerate. I appreciate and value the love, care, dedication and honesty that a partner can share with you, more than ever before. I am more mature, less jealous, and don't sweat the small stuff. I know what it's like to be taken advantage of and I certainly don't deserve it. I also realize that I'm a bit of a romantic and can daydream 'til the cows come home, but at the end of the day I think I am pretty realistic when it comes to relationships. It took me probably about a year to finally break up with Spencer. I think that I went through and gave up SO much to be with him, that I felt like I just had to make it work. I think he felt the same way. I tried..and tried and realized that things just weren't going to change. He would've stayed with me but I felt wise enough to look at it from a different perspective and see that it would not work. (Apparently, I was right because he's already engaged..lol)

    Yes, I still think a lot. I can't say that will ever change. I tend to over-analyze..but I guess I'd rather think too much than not think at all. So yes, I have thought a lot about our situation and all the possibilities.

    Soooo....whether it's from you or someone else, I know I deserve a special kind of love and it will come when the time is right. And I believe you do too.

    I am not offended or hurt by your ambivalence towards me.. It is expected. I understand if you need some time to respond...think..meditate..whatever you need to do. I want there to be ZERO pressure in this situation- I believe our true thoughts and emotions have tremendous power as vibrations that move through the universe. If we both truly feel a longing for one another, doors will open and we will be brought together. If not...our paths will continue in different directions.

    p.s. These are some reasons it may be different for us now. There is no guarantee though. I wouldn't make any promises... if anything.. I would want to start by just being your friend again.
    What do you guys make of that?

    Does that change anything in your opinion?

    Be honest with me. Im still trying to figure out what I want to do man.
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    • Jr.
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      • Feb 2003
      • 19171

      #32
      Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

      That's a pretty well-thought out email in my mind. Just going off of that, she seems to be coming from a place of genuine affection and that maybe you two are a good fit and the timing may be better now than it was when y'all were younger.
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      • mgoblue
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        • Jul 2002
        • 25477

        #33
        Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

        Originally posted by Jr.
        That's a pretty well-thought out email in my mind. Just going off of that, she seems to be coming from a place of genuine affection and that maybe you two are a good fit and the timing may be better now than it was when y'all were younger.
        I'd give her a shot....you don't get that type of quality email from one of the snake women that hops from guy to guy and takes advantage IMO. Unless she's a stellar liar/player.

        Either way you don't seem happy in the current relationship so you may want to figure that out first, before you do anything with the ex.
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        • jeremym480
          Speak it into existence
          • Oct 2008
          • 18198

          #34
          Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

          I agree with Jr. she seems to have put a lot of thought into it and does seem genuine. She also makes a lot a valid points, in my opinion, especially the stuff about how old you guys were. I mean, it was certainly better for you guys to breakup at the point you did than to have gotten married and/or had kid's then her developing those feelings of "what have I missed?"

          I guess it hard for me on the outside looking into to really give you any advice. I will say that I have seen both sides of the token in my immediate family. My little sister and her husband were high school sweethearts and now they are in the 30's and still going strong. Whereas, my brother and his wife got together shorty after he graduated HS and 15 years later she decided she wants a divorce basically because she didn't get to "sow her wild oats". Honestly, if she didn't have kids still in school I wouldn't really blame her.

          Another quick story - my uncle and his HS sweetheart both went into the military after HS (this was in the late 80's BTW). She ended up meeting someone else and having kid's and he pretty much went on about his life as well. Well, around the beginning of the 2000's they started talking again on the internet. He lived in Alabama and she lived in Maine. They ended up rekindling their relationship and got married soon after. They have been together ever since.

          Anyway, my point is that everyone is different and every couple has a unique story. None of us can really tell you what to do, only you can figure that out for yourself. You basically need to decide is your current gf worth losing? Imagine her with another guy, how does that make you feel? If you're okay with it then go for the ex. If you hate it then maybe you should cut all ties with your ex now and really throw everything you have into your current gf. I know some may say you can keep your ex as a friend or whatever, but imo I think that both of you have too many feeling towards one another to just be friends (right now anyway) and I don't think it's fair to basically continue emotionally cheating on her if you really want to be with her.

          Regarding your ex normally I subscribe to the notion that "once a cheater, always a cheater", but as I said before you guys were just so young, so it's difficult for me to truly hold that against her; especially since a person can change a lot form the late-teens/early twenties to their mid/late twenties. She seems like she really misses you but you have to ask yourself questions like does she have a ulterior motive? is she just lonely? You know her (or once did anyway) so what do you think?

          Either way you have a big decision to make and just know that whatever you decide it may work out and it may not, but it's not going to be the end of the world for any one involved.
          Last edited by jeremym480; 04-16-2014, 03:09 PM.
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          • Phobia
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            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #35
            Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

            My honest opinion. It sounds like she likes to stir the pot and cause "drama" to remove boredom! "How the hell did you come to that phobia??", well lets look at this from a outside point of view.

            A guy with a long time girlfriend who everything is going good. Ex girlfriend continues to try and plug herself in his relationship "HOPING" it will cause some issues which she can rebound on. Then further contacts his MOM and even has HER MOM contact him. Not only is she prodding but even having outside people pry in. Don't sound like fantastic character to someone would would "want the best" for someone they love. Instead sounds a lot like someone who is out for them self.

            Then this quote sealed it for me.
            Then at the end of the dream I would remember that I was still with Spencer and I couldn't do that. Every time I woke up I felt so guilty. I actually even told him once that I kept dreaming about you just because it felt so wrong. You know I'm so honest..maybe too much sometimes.
            YOU SIT ON A THRONE OF LIES LOL!!!!!!!!!! Why in the world would you tell your "lover" this. That is a bold face lie of "I'm just honest like that". I think Kate Upton is smoking hot but I don't run around telling my wife what I would give my left nut to do to her. Why.........because maturity tells you that its pointless and creating a fight just for the sake of doing it. That is entirely what she did there, created a fight just for the damn sake of it.

            So my point of view on the situation, she is nothing but trouble and you will get burned.

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            • Flightwhite24
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              • Jul 2005
              • 12094

              #36
              Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

              Originally posted by Phobia
              My honest opinion. It sounds like she likes to stir the pot and cause "drama" to remove boredom! "How the hell did you come to that phobia??", well lets look at this from a outside point of view.

              A guy with a long time girlfriend who everything is going good. Ex girlfriend continues to try and plug herself in his relationship "HOPING" it will cause some issues which she can rebound on. Then further contacts his MOM and even has HER MOM contact him. Not only is she prodding but even having outside people pry in. Don't sound like fantastic character to someone would would "want the best" for someone they love. Instead sounds a lot like someone who is out for them self.

              Then this quote sealed it for me.

              YOU SIT ON A THRONE OF LIES LOL!!!!!!!!!! Why in the world would you tell your "lover" this. That is a bold face lie of "I'm just honest like that". I think Kate Upton is smoking hot but I don't run around telling my wife what I would give my left nut to do to her. Why.........because maturity tells you that its pointless and creating a fight just for the sake of doing it. That is entirely what she did there, created a fight just for the damn sake of it.

              So my point of view on the situation, she is nothing but trouble and you will get burned.

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              • Koolie G
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                • Mar 2005
                • 1812

                #37
                Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                I'll throw my hat in the ring. I kinda like this ex girl's style. I really liked her email, she seems very intelligent and thoughtful. You haven't mentioned how either girl looks, so it seems you are more interested in that. Your ex seems to have matured a lot over the years you have been apart. You are both still young buy you have had some time to experience life without one another. After all that experience you are still coming back to that fact that you have feelings for each other.

                I just don't see a problem exploring whether your ex is someone you might want to be with. I'm not saying you should cheat on your current gf, but it sounds like you owe it to yourself, your ex, & your current gf to find out what is best for you. I think you need to make sure one of your outcomes is that you end up with neither girl and that would be OK. If you limit yourself to only 2 outcomes you may still be unhappy. You are too young to feel like you have to settle for something. I didn't get married until I was 36 and my wife was 26. We dated for a long time before we married.

                I think you communicate with your ex and see her if she comes to Cali. You may see her and the feelings just aren't there and you can just be friends or not. But if you see her and you are instantly pumped and attracted to her and you guys hit it off like you were never apart, then.... That probably tells you who you want to be with. Then you just have to have an honest conversation with the current gf. It will suck, but in the end it will be best for all involved. Plus the 21 year old may have needed to have her experience with you before she could be happy with someone else. Life is all about experiences and I think you will probably have a lot better idea about what you want to do after you see the ex chick in person. You will know how you want to proceed after spending a short amount of time with her. And the same for her. She may see you and be like "nah, I don't want a male model".

                If you turned on your mic during our BF4 sessions I could give you actual real time advice, lol.
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                • Phobia
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                  • Jan 2008
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                  #38
                  Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                  Originally posted by FLIGHTWHITE
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                  Think about it, how pissed would you be at some ex boyfriend coming back into your wife's life after he knows she been in a happy marriage. He's attempting some shady **** and if Magic's current girl would find out what this girl is attempting she would think the same thing.

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                  • jeremym480
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                    • Oct 2008
                    • 18198

                    #39
                    Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                    Originally posted by Phobia
                    Think about it, how pissed would you be at some ex boyfriend coming back into your wife's life after he knows she been in a happy marriage. He's attempting some shady **** and if Magic's current girl would find out what this girl is attempting she would think the same thing.
                    But, that's the thing.... it's his current girlfriend, not his wife. I mean, 6-7 months isn't that long in the grand scheme of things. Also, if they were married then I would say don't even entertain it, but 6 months? They could break up tomorrow and he may not even remember her name in 5 years.

                    I agree with a lot of what koolie has to say. One thing that I would advise though is that if you do decide to go with the ex, that doesn't mean that you have to jump into a relationship right away. I'd spend time just dating and getting to know one another for awhile before jumping into anything exclusive.
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                    • ImTellinTim
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                      • Sep 2006
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                      #40
                      Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                      Rekindle things with the ex while you keep seeing the new girl. Keep us updated. If the two ever confront you together, make sure it's captured on video so you can post it here. YOLO
                      Last edited by ImTellinTim; 04-17-2014, 11:16 AM.

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                      • Marino
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                        • Jan 2008
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                        #41
                        Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                        You're cheating on me? You son of a bitch.

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
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                          • Mar 2008
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                          #42
                          Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                          After reading that email, I'd give it a shot and meet with her. Seems like she's not trying to play games and it serious about this and like others said, it sounds genuine and you wouldn't get that from chicks that like to play games.

                          We still waiting on those pics though LOL.
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                          • Koolie G
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                            • Mar 2005
                            • 1812

                            #43
                            Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan

                            We still waiting on those pics though LOL.
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                            • JODYE
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                              • May 2012
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                              #44
                              Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                              In my personal experience, the whole "get back with ex" thing has never worked out. She was/is your ex for a reason.

                              And this has nothing to do with the fact that you have a girlfriend. Just leave it alone and move on. Of course you are going to feel a certain way, because there is something about familiarity that we all love and look for. For some reason we lust after the feeling of "What could have been" instead of really appreciating what we have. It seems like the way she is approaching this, that is what she is banking on. And that is all this is. In addition to her conveniently having this revelation as she no longer gets the attention from the person she left you for to begin with (If i'm understanding correctly). I can assure you, that anything with her will not be what you remember and you will be left disappointed and filled with regret that you threw something away for it.

                              I speak from personal experience. I was just in this same situation not too long ago feeling the same way you did. Well I went down the get back with ex road, and was left feeling more disappointed than I did when we separated the first time. She changed, and what I remembered of her that made me desire her wasn't the same. Time does that, and will in this situation too.

                              You've done well without her and grew as a person learning from that experience. Don't regress and go down on a road already traveled. Have a lunch with her and talk, fine. But don't throw away something with your new girl for nostalgia sake. It will not be worth it.
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                              • NewscasterNews4
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                                • Jul 2013
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                                #45
                                Re: In Need Of Some Serious Advice (Yes. Relationship Issues)

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                After reading that email, I'd give it a shot and meet with her. Seems like she's not trying to play games and it serious about this and like others said, it sounds genuine and you wouldn't get that from chicks that like to play games.

                                We still waiting on those pics though LOL.
                                Pics are a must to make sure you're not Evaning us lol.

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